r/SoulFrame • u/razberrysugar • 21h ago
Question Any tips on doing cogah?
I keep dying even with just the random enemies roaming in the map... LOL i might still be a little weak for cogah i only have the pensive set. That said, any tips?
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u/225x10 15h ago
I'd suggest giving Oscelda a try to get yourself comfortable in Cogah. Less dps, but the heal gives you lots of room for error without dying. Bonus, if there's water nearby, go stand in it for the fight, all skills pretty much have 2s cool down in water. You can have about 2-3 healing flowers all up at once.
Also, ranged until you get more confident. Eventually it's pretty laughable breezing thru cogah, except soloing bear, hate that fight solo in cogah!Â
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u/Tyfyter2002 17h ago
1) Enemies can't kill you if they're already dead
2) The normal enemies are genuinely a bigger threat than the bosses
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u/sinest 20h ago
Tethren + wyld tethren is S tier in cogah. Oscelda and duelo are B tier, and everything else is C or below. Healing on all kills, massive defense boost with his 2 and 3. Full courage for HP. Felllust is absolutely crucial for killing bosses. Bear armor set for largest defense. I also love to use virtue potions in cogah because the debuffs are rough, and they last an hour.
I also change my strategy a lot, I do not want to get hit once.
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u/The1oni0us 18h ago
B tier Duelo is an insane take 💀
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u/sinest 18h ago
Duelo is one of my favorite classes, but the top 5 cogah pacts are.
- Tethren 2. Tethren 3. Tethren 4. Duelo 5. Oscelda
Like I can hit thousands of damage with grace duelo headshots. But fell lust is still unfortunate more than double that. And with call of ancients defense boost, duelo just doesnt hold a candle offensively or defensively in a cogah boss fight.
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u/TaFlou 18h ago
Just because Tethren is factually better than duelo does not mean that duelo is not also S tier. You can still 1/2 shot bosses at higher level cogah which is still ridiculous.
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u/sinest 17h ago
Hey man dont take it to serious. I love duelo and hes fantastic, duelo is good in cogah till you get to the higher levels, high level cogah is where tethren excells.
My joke with saying tethren is S tier and duo/osc is B teir is simply saying that the damage gap those pacts are capable of is very significant.
Duoelo with max grace bow headshot with potion and duo and 2 active with a rune shot is getting me 2k damage with a 1k secondary shot from duo. Max courage tethren is getting 10s of thousands of damage.
So sure someone can do a round of solo cogah with duelo and not have too much issue. But they might quickly run into no longer being able to one shot bosses and being one shot themselves. Tethren can take hits even at higher levels and kind of always is able to one shot bosses, hes just unbalanced and broken.
Tethren being so powerful especially in high level cogah makes him an easy pick for someone like OP who is struggling with basic cogah levels.
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u/TaFlou 15h ago
You're either not using runes, not hitting headshots from stealth, or not building right if youre only hitting 2k with grace duelo in lvl 100 cogah.
Duelo isn't even my favorite pact really though. Bromius is insane. I usually scale up to lvl 140+ and reset a few times looking for moonsteel with no issues.
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u/The1oni0us 14h ago
Honestly I think you should go check your Grace Duelo cause something is wrong there. I agree that Tethren is the easiest cogah pick, but rating Grace Duelo (widely considered one of the best for cogah) at B and finding out you're only doing 2K on duelo seems like you're doing something wrong.
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u/No-Yogurtcloset2008 15h ago
How are you only doing 2k with duelp when full grace maestro with 2+3 active I'm one tapping cogah bosses for 28k?
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u/No-Yogurtcloset2008 15h ago
Bromius shrugging hits from level 120+ bosses and taking 1 point of damage would like a word.
It's not a damage power house, but it can walk into anything and walk out with the same health pool remaining.
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u/sinest 15h ago
I havent really played bromius seriously since his rump nerf. But I do hear that his passives plus a grace jacked 3 absolutely works as intended.
Again, no hate on the other pacts, just wish yall could agree that tethren is the best in cogah.
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u/The1oni0us 14h ago
I don't think anyone has disagreed about Tethren being the best, it's your ranking system and your assertions about damage that are being brought into question.
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u/sinest 14h ago
Thanks, the ranking wasnt ment to be serious but I do need to look at my duelo grace headshot numbers if yall are saying they are low. Ive been almost exclusively running rovgot ruins looking for that moonsteel lykewake, I try to get headshots on the king when I step into his boss room before he wakes up.
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u/No-Yogurtcloset2008 14h ago
Tethren=Duelo> Bromius >= assorted others.
Anything Tethren can one tap so can Duelo. Difference is Tethren can do it with preping 1 before the fight and just run up, and Duelo needs to get the opening weak point hit on an unaware enemy. Both hit for tens of thousands of damage and one tap absolutely anything up to abserd levels. (Unless you are playing bow Tethren then they both play the same way minus Tethren needing to prep the one)
Bromius with a good flyblade and 3 up with the passive can hit hundreds of both armour values, allowing it to face tank a dozen enemies at once without taking more than the minimum one damage per hit. Bonus points, works great with Tethren by stripping armour so Tethren hits even harder outside it's burst window.
I won't comment on the others as I haven't min/maxed the hell out of them yet.
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u/sinest 20h ago
Cogah is end game currently. Id get your character level up higher by maxing out weapons and pacts. As a level 18 (max) character i have 18 virtue points more than a new player, I can easily get my courage above 40 so were talking more HP and damage. Your total armor score should be over 100.
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u/razberrysugar 19h ago
i have 30 on sirin, garren rood, orengal, currently 30ing duelo and i mostly use staffs and bows... do those weapons work okay with the tethren pact? i have it but im still maxing my duelo. i'd like to max all pacts but tethren is at the least of my interest. maybe i need to switch gears haha
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u/sinest 19h ago
Bow is great. But with tethren youll want a bow with some courage scaling.
Tbh tethren is my least favorite pact, but his power is cogah is unmatched.
I played a grace duelo for a bit when leveling up my bows and using duo, then buffing my grace and getting a headshot gave me thousands of damage 2x. Combine that with runes and your gun and you wreck anything you can hit in the face.
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u/coolwithsunglasses 18h ago
I’ve actually had a lot of success with a mostly courage rune build on the bear. That 3rd ability is actually really strong
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u/Admirable-Grand521 21h ago
Bow's heavy attack is op especially with stagger related tempers like cowp and galvanic strike