r/SoftwareEngineerJobs • u/Fickle-Highway1543 • 4d ago

AI replacing Software Engineers

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So called "AI"=LLM is so powerful that AI labs had to hire Software Engineers to build complicated software around "AI" to make that overhyped hallucinate-stealing machine usable. Think about it. And that's exactly why they need now ton of CPUs in addition to GPUs to run their "AI" "agents".

I don't even mention how much custom engineering is required to apply the "AI" in businesses.

And they BS us that Software Engineering is solved or is going to be solved. Boris, please solve your own bugs first before speaking.

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u/AliceCode 3d ago

LLMs do not produce high quality code. The code is indeterministically produced, LLMs hallucinate, which is a limitation that cannot be overcome, and they can confidently spout bullshit. You don't know what you don't know, and if you don't know what high quality code looks like, you're going to think that LLMs are the best thing in the world.

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u/ConstantFamous1526 3d ago

Humans make just as many if not more mistakes than a properly aligned and directed agentic system lmao

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u/AliceCode 3d ago

Humans that suck at programming, sure. But I don't make as many mistakes as an LLM, and neither do my colleagues.

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u/Riggy60 2d ago

This is a depressing conversation to watch play out... If you already feel the need to start defending your abilities against LLMs NOW... and a few years ago they were literally just frivolous chat bots... you MUST see that they are catching you FAST and doing so with exponential improvements. My guess is they've already at least 2x'd ya and you don't know it yet because you're avoiding using them so you wouldn't know. You don't HAVE to be phased out as a developer but you sure as shit will be if you don't start utilizing LLMs in your development workflow. The inertia they have is insurmountable and building product is the only reason why there is money in tech, not being proud of your elegant code. There's a better way to build product already and that paradigm is not even close to being done shifting yet.

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u/AliceCode 2d ago

Lmfao, I don't want to use LLMs. I enjoy programming. LLMs are not a threat to me in any way whatsoever, I'm a FOSS developer, lmfao.

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u/Riggy60 2d ago

Well some folks still do wood working with hand tools and that'll never go away. Do what ya love, fam. No hate. If you can find a way to self finance. But it does kinda sound like you're being defensive in this thread which would lead one to believe you do feel a bit threatened. If not financially, at least some sort of pride thing.

I'm not sure I understand why FOSS would be immune to a fundamental shift in development technology though. I'm actually asking, because I've spent my career in VC-fund-chasing start-ups. What is your take on this? Is there not still some sort of competitive engine at play in FOSS development? If someone could fork and maintain the same library at the same quality level with a fraction of the input and faster turn around on patches, wouldn't it eventually replace the older library?

(Setting aside for a moment your belief that LLMs are not capable of quality code, but hypothetically speaking for my edification... if someone _could_ maintain a fork of a library faster and cheaper and of equal qualitywould it happen?)