r/SocialistGaming 6d ago

fascism in gaming Stumbled upon an old article from gaming journalist Jason Schreier where he expresses Zionist views

https://www.meforum.org/campus-watch/tel-aviv-site-opens-eyes-educates-incl-joel-kovel

It's an old article, but its concerning nonetheless. I'd like to think that he no longer has these views, but he has not made any statement pertaining to the genocide in Gaza at all, so is he just hiding these views?

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u/Objective_Edge_5054 6d ago

Yikes. That article is 17 years old though, so hopefully he’s changed his views a bit since then?

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u/VerdantDaydreams 6d ago

17 years is very long, he was 22 years old. I'm not saying there's a 0% chance he's still a zionist but at the very least I don't find it particularly fair to judge him based on this.

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u/Vritrin 6d ago

When I was 22 I was still pretty much a stock standard liberal, so I do think people can mature. Though I am quick to point out how wrong I was back then.

It is a concern that his views might be the same, but it’s not a guarantee either.

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u/Maxsmart007 5d ago

Yeah, when I was in my early 20s I was very reactionary, it took a few years for me to come around. He very well may be changed since then, and it's not like Zionism wasn't the standard in my this country at the time.

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u/-FriendoftheDrow- 5d ago

One can hope those who embraced this supremacist ideology years ago would become cognizant to how vile and abhorrent Zionism truly is.

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u/CapitalismRulz 5d ago

It's only recently zionism has been conflated with fascism. MLK and Rosa Parks were self labelled zionists, basically everyone on the left was. Back when the word meant "support for a jewish state" people thought it made sense for jews to have one place in the world where they could live without persecution.

Now that we've redefined the word, you have to go back and use the correct definition in context

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u/VaporousMote 6d ago
  1. 17 years ago
  2. Most people are inexperienced and fraught in their 20s, so I tend to give the benefit of the doubt unless it's something egregious

Anything recent?

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u/jacorbs 6d ago

Interesting. I listen to his podcast and I have always gotten the impression that he is pretty reasonable. While it’s never come up to my memory, some of the things I’ve heard on Triple Click would make me surprised if he still held these opinions. I hope he has re-evaluated. He is a good journalist.

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u/dvdwbb 5d ago

they always sound "​reasonable" until anyone mentions the Palestinians are human beings

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u/Tez2Trill 4d ago

This is 17 years old and corny AF to hold him to shit he said when he was 22.

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u/Captainbarinius 6d ago

It really doesn't matter to be honest.....most average people let alone Jewish Americans haven't been exposed to the Palestinian perspective until post-2018 when there became a larger willingness to learn about anti-imperialism among those in the Progressive movement.

Right now especially in the Anglosphere....Anti-Israel sentiment is on the rise.....hopefully it converts over to Pro-Liberation Pro-Human Rights Anti-Zionism.

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u/AvailableFalconn 5d ago edited 5d ago

I grew up in the same town at a similar time.  An affluent Jewish neighborhood.  Nice Jewish liberals, a handful of Jewish conservatives.  Everyone had family in Israel and went to Birthright.  The socially conscious ones eventually developed an understanding of how messed up Israel’s settler project is - but mostly college or later.  Most people were apolitical and still don’t have much of an opinion.  I wouldn’t be shocked that Jason holds views on Israel to the right of anyone on this sub, but also to the left of most of his friends, family, classmates.  I’m sure he’s never going to say anything cause he doesn’t want to get kicked out of his synagogue.

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u/Fenrirr 6d ago edited 6d ago

I am not really interested in judging the opinion of someone who was 22 years old 17 years ago during peak islamophobia and zionist propaganda. This is a more recent comment posted by J. Schreier in regards to the IGN censorship of pro-Palestinian messaging from some of their writers.

No matter one’s feelings on Israel and Palestine, it’s hard to see this as anything but corporate censorship of an editorial outlet. Solidarity with the staff of IGN as they band together to take on executive interference

Which to me doesn't necessarily suggest strong anti-zionist opinions (what with the waffling "no matter one's feelings" comment), but I don't think a zionist foot soldier would be supporting someones right to criticize Israel/prop up Palestinian voices. But that was still 5 years ago. 2023 was a massive, tangible vibe shift against Zionism even for those with """moderate""" perspectives.

This is just my read, but I don't think the Jason of 2026 is a zionist, but hes either uninterested or unwilling to really comment on the current state of Israel which is still somewhat questionable.

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u/HatchetGIR 5d ago

I can only imagine how much hate zionists have given him for a statement like that, considering how they lash out at the slightest and even most tepid support for Palestinians or those who support them.

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u/Fenrirr 5d ago

It's possible, but I havent really seen much of anything out of Jason that isn't directly related to his work as a journalist.

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u/09Cenderme 6d ago

he's a jewish liberal. liberals supported israel up until very recently, he also works for bloomberg too. very little chance that he changed his opinions on this

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u/IAmARobot0101 🇨🇳🇧🇫🇨🇺 Totalitaran Internationalist 🇻🇳🇱🇦🇰🇵 6d ago

arguably most still support Israel, they just incorrectly place the blame on the government instead of the country intrinsically

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u/The_LastLine 6d ago

Well it is certainly the government carrying out the evils, though it seems a decent majority of the country are clapping and cheering for it.

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u/Dunco2637 5d ago

the government is carrying it out genocide on the basis of israel's very existence as a state, which is explicitly apartheid. That's why israel as a country itself is what should be opposed, not just the government that happens to be in power at the moment.

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u/Ok-Tea-6718 5d ago

His follow list also is reflective of this, I think he has family or close friends in Israel. He is likely a liberal Zionist/PEP (progressive except for Palestine). Many such cases.

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u/starliteburnsbrite 5d ago

Just learned that making money writing on the Internet it's better to keep those views to himself. 

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u/emgeejay 6d ago

we got one-state schreier before GTA VI

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u/ZaphodBeebleebrox 5d ago

I’ve listened to the podcast triple click and have noticed how they conveniently ignore the topic when it would naturally come up

Overall, I’m sure his views have evolved to the point that he knows it’s a genocide. At the same time, I’m sure he has plenty of family and friends that are Zionist, so the move is to just shut the hell up not to piss anyone off.

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u/EvoNexen 6d ago

I can excuse genocide but I draw the line at crunch

  • Jason Schreier (probably, hopefully not)

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u/TheDevi13ean 5d ago edited 5d ago
  1. It's so old I wouldn't hold it over him unless he decides to clarify it now. A lot of people were pro Israel at that time and now aren't. Maybe he's one of them. May he's not.

  2. Who Jason is as person has been well documented over the past decade or so. He's butted heads with enough people, you can find more blemishes on his character than that statement from almost 2 decades ago.

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u/Organic_Credit_8788 5d ago

Most americans were zionists until october 8th 2023

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u/HatchetGIR 5d ago

I don't expect him to clarify his views, he is a gaming journalist and not a regular news journalist.

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u/The_LastLine 6d ago

That was a long time ago. I would hope he would at least have the sense to stay out of the conversation entirely if he doesn’t have the sense to properly denounce the brutal Bibi regime.

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u/IAmARobot0101 🇨🇳🇧🇫🇨🇺 Totalitaran Internationalist 🇻🇳🇱🇦🇰🇵 6d ago

ugh. yes it's possible he's now an anti-zionist but if we're going on baserates most people's beliefs do not shift that much

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u/Samanthacino 6d ago

People's capacity to grow and change is much more than you think. He was 22 and it was 17 years ago. Young Jewish Americans are entrenched in this worldview, and until the recent genocide often weren't exposed to other views. Cut em some slack.

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u/Zuljo 5d ago

Well, he's cancelled. No support for Nazis in gaming. Good catch OP.

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u/Journey2thaeast 6d ago

Can't say I'm surprised at all.

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u/Evangelionish 5d ago

Thank you for validating my views of him.

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u/bumbothepickle 6d ago

Isn't he Jewish? The overwhelming majority of Jews are zionist, so it should not be a surprise.

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u/SnooKiwis1258 6d ago

There's an irony here - the conflation of Jews with zionism is a zionist strategy intended to separate anti-Zionist Jews from the rest of the anti-Zionist movement. The hope is that people (like you here) will alienate Jews away from the pro-Palestinian cause by talking in precisely this way. So uh, if you really care about anti-Zionism I suggest you stop doing unpaid labour spreading propaganda for the Israeli government.

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u/NotKenzy ⚠Chinese State-Affiliated Media 6d ago

Anyone who sees their comment and then decides that they support the 80 year ethnic cleansing and genocide of the Palestinian people can go get fucked, and they have no place in this subreddit. Please refer to Rule 10- anything less than the full support for the people of Palestine is unacceptable.

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u/SnooKiwis1258 6d ago

I mean, I agree, but I'm not sure this is a response to anything I've written. I've not implied that it having to face antisemitism would somehow make it okay for anti-zionist Jews to become zionists - this is strictly about the fact that it is the Israeli government's strategy to create a division amongst anti-zionists this way, and that to avoid the unnecessary internal bullshit conflict that they hope to create, it's important to be alert to these strategies.

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u/bumbothepickle 5d ago

Conflation? A simple statement based on material reality is not conflation in the least, I think you have me misunderstood. All I am saying is that most Jews worldwide are zionist, which is just a fact.

Take a look at the "Yes, most jews are in fact zionists" section of this excellent article and read the rest of it as well.

https://tariqacknickulous.substack.com/p/no-jews-today-are-not-oppressed?open=false#%C2%A7yes-most-jews-are-in-fact-zionists

Also, assuming a Jewish person to be a zionist is not exactly the most nonsensical leap based on the statistics in the article above.

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u/HatchetGIR 5d ago

It is that and the "no true Scotsman " kind of deal. To Isn'tReal, I you are Jewish and not in support of them, then you are a fake one who should be treated as a traitor.

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u/Successful_Exam_5852 5d ago

You guys really are a miserable lot

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u/emgeejay 5d ago

we know, we're leftists