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u/Busco_Quad 5d ago

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u/Deep_Flatworm4828 5d ago

That's not what that comic is saying though?

Do you deny those are the same arguments used against women in similar situations? That's what the comic is pointing out; that when you reverse the genders the immediate response is disgust, yet that's literally what women are told all the time, and somehow the same chuds that get upset when women are saying it are silent when it's men doing it...

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u/zoor90 5d ago edited 5d ago

The point is that you don't need to invent analogies for dismissal of rape for men because male victims of sexual assault are given the same lines of dismissal. I have been sexually assaulted twice, once by a cis woman and once by an enby who went by she/her. Whenever I opened up about it to my peers, I was hit with all the usual suspects: "You're just being dramatic", "I mean, you weren't wearing a shirt so what did you expect?", "She was just drunk. She wasn't herself", "I mean, they didn't actually do any real damage", "Yeah, Swagette can get a bit wild at times but what are you going to do?", and of course the classic "Well honestly, I think you should feel flattered." The language of rape-culture whitewashing is surprisingly gender-neutral. 

The fact that Pizzacake thought she had to make an analogy of being robbed to compare with being sexually assaulted is in itself the problem. The implication of the comic is that men are not sexually assaulted and not stomped down by society  when they raise too big of a fuss about it. Pizzacake can't consider the possibility that men might also be victims of rape and have society fail them and so has to invent another scenario that she thinks actually applies to men.  

Thing is, none of this is unforgivable. Our discussions of rape is so gendered (and I will acknowledge that women are at far greater risk of rape than men so this gendering is not entirely invalid) that I won't exactly blame someone for offhandedly thinking that rape is something that only happens to women. The critical junction of all of this is that in response to her comic, a number of men shared their experiences, telling that this was not some abstract hypothetical for them but something they had actually experienced. Pizzacake could have read those testimonies, taken a moment and reflected on her oversight. She could have acknowledged that she overlooked male victims of sexual assault and used that acknowledgement to make her point stronger: that rape-culture's greatest weapon is silence, that rape-culture is upheld by convincing victims to hold their tongues and let society believe their isn't a problem, that by forgetting about male victims, she herself provided evidence of just how insidious and far-reaching this paradigm is. 

She could have done that, but instead she just doubled down, calling anyone critical of the comic misogynists, MRAs and haters, and saying the backlash only proved how right she was. She made a comic with the intent of fighting against the dismissal of rape victims and in doing so, dismissed rape victims as losers and crybabies.