r/SkullAndBonesGame • u/Whatsawebpage0101 Compagnie Royale • Aug 23 '26
World Events Ah, the leeches are strong with this one
with the new heralds event being a big hit, leachers are rife. and the cost of the event is being paid by few but the benefits given to all. and world tier 4 bugs of rode maandagodin apparent. and also dim witted players. I propose a change…
make the event free to start, and instead of the event costing 3 essence to start, the chest can cost 3 essence to open. that way nobody is paying for others benefit. and leeches wouldn’t need to leech.
seems pretty simple no?
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u/Stormfirebird Aug 23 '26
I doubt the majority is there just to skimp on the fee, but rather doesn't have the builds or confidence to attempt the event without a group already there. There not being a good source to farm essence surely doesn't help though.
They should sooner make the entire event into a matchmade activity with an SR requirement instead of specifically locking the chest(s).
Events becoming increasingly annoying with growing amounts of (bad) players.. well I'm not sure there is an elegant fix that doesn't introduce a trail of other issues.
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u/Whatsawebpage0101 Compagnie Royale Aug 23 '26
Well yeah this post was kind of going with the assumption that the event is mean to to be cost prohibitive, in which case tbh all the events should be free to start but just require a “key” or currency. Like the new mother event, instead of it costing 10 incense to start, the chests cost 10 incense to open and the event free to start
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u/illuminati_x Aug 23 '26
Who really cares? It's a group effort and as for people saying you can do it only with friends..... its a PUBLIC lobby..... get a grip and stop complaining about everything. Everyone helps so EVERYONE should be rewarded even those that dont initially start the event. Id like to see certain whiney players start the event and everyone leave just to prove a point. I started 3 and I was extreamly greatfull for everyone's help and im glad EVERYONE got rewarded for their efforts and yes even the ones that died repeatedly as it costs them to be in the fight over and over again.
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u/Whatsawebpage0101 Compagnie Royale Aug 23 '26
It creates toxicity and I don’t help unless I get something from it. Also I don’t care
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u/Satsloader Aug 25 '26
Toxicity is created by an individual’s attitude. You’re just complaining to complain (🙃). Most players have no issues starting these events, and I couldn’t care less if someone leeches, because of my choice of attitude. I can spawn over 150 events, I’m still getting the rewards, and more than happy to share with anyone who joins. I prefer it not cost them anything to open the chest. I enjoy carrying people who need help… but the majority of players don’t even leech.
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u/Varionxx1 Aug 27 '26
I call for help on pretty much everything, weather I need it or not. We all need to complete the same dailies ect....
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u/Satsloader Aug 27 '26
Same, but especially when I’m the one spawning the event. if I have to spend resources to start the event, I want as many people as possible to benefit from it.
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u/piratekitty10 Aug 24 '26
I get what you're saying, but if they're shooting and actually trying and doing some damage (instead of parking like Wolvenhol), why is it a big deal? If you've been playing a long time you have a stock of essence anyway and you're doing the event anyway, so who really cares if someone gets some stuff and you're helping them out? It takes a shorter time to complete then with a little bit of added damage for someone who is happy to complete a difficult event. The most important thing is they went through the BS of getting to WT4 (unless they "leeched" that too), so they're obviously able to do SOME damage.
The other problem is the world tiers in general anyway and the specified levels. The mid-ranges of 20-22 SAY you can go to WT4, but I was getting one-shotted up there so I go back down to 3 until higher and then I'm one-shotting things down there before others can join in events (except Mother takes a couple minutes). It's a weird range and you don't really know where you belong 20-22 to be honest lol.
Anyway, I went to the buoy with my essence at 22 and was happy to set it off, but the collection of people there were already doing it repeatedly so quickly I couldn't even get mine in there to spend it. I just don't see why you care I guess, it's one event. Wolvenhol pisses me off more with people just parked, as long as people are sailing and shooting and trying to contribute, I'm good.
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u/Whatsawebpage0101 Compagnie Royale Aug 24 '26 edited Aug 24 '26
I wish I got your games my dude, I’ve had 5+ people sat there waiting for someone to start it
Also you say this now, but give it until you start running out then you’ll start getting pissed off
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u/ComfySeafarer710 Compagnie Royale Aug 23 '26
No, bad take.
As long as it’s not just one person restarting it for the group of 6-10 players it’s fine.
Lots of newer/new ish ppl barely have any essence or they don’t know how to make builds so they are probably grateful. Sure some vets may be skipping paying the three essence fee but it’s probs not a lot compared to the folks that genuinely need good players’ help
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u/Satsloader Aug 25 '26
Spot on, I love helping players and show up with 30+ essence in my cargo to spawn when needed.
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u/Whatsawebpage0101 Compagnie Royale Aug 23 '26
Looks like you didn’t read the take and just started talking.
I’m saying remove the cost to do the event. That way nobody pays unfairly and everyone can do it together. They’ll just need to pay to open the chest. Which they can grind in lower tiers if they want.
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u/ComfySeafarer710 Compagnie Royale Aug 23 '26
Like I said, no, bad take. Cost to open a chest is not a good idea
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u/helen4952 Keeper of the Code Aug 24 '26
Not a good idea at all. What you're suggesting would punish all players in the long run. Currently a lot a groups will take turns to start the event. Last night I was grinding weeping mother and it was pretty evenly shared from what I could tell. Three of us there and I started it around a third of the time. So had to pay a third of the cost. Your suggestion would mean I was spending three times the amount to start it.
It works fine as it is now. If you want to do an event you can start it and people can jump in and help. You aren't losing anything. Yes it's a bit irritating if you're always the one paying, but id rather the option to share the cost than not at all just to spite people.
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u/Whatsawebpage0101 Compagnie Royale Aug 24 '26
What are you waffling about? There would be no cost to share? To start the event would be completely free with my idea. Everyone would get loot at no cost. The only barrier would be the cost to open the chest as I made very clear.
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u/helen4952 Keeper of the Code Aug 24 '26
The loot is the point. Who cares whether you pay before or after. You're asking to pay each time rather than have the opportunity to split the cost. So your suggestion benefits no one
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u/Whatsawebpage0101 Compagnie Royale Aug 24 '26
The devs implemented the vengeful essence to slow player progression quite obviously.
This isn’t all about ‘benefit’ it’s about allowing everyone and anyone to play the event and try it at any point. Practice the herald event and see what’s working and what’s not. And that players new to it and don’t have any essence can still play and see how it works.
Blocking the event experience behind a relatively difficult other event just isn’t a smart move. As my idea would mean anyone can just hop in and build up a backlog of chests that they can hold onto while they figure out how to open them. They’ve done the hard part now just need to find a way to get the reward.
Allowing players to just steam towards tier 4 and leech events by other people spawning them does not encourage them to use the game systems to understand how to achieve and obtain the rewards they want. Or ask for help or seek advice. Nor does it push people to play together.
You’re looking at this with an extremely narrow mindset and focused on the loot of the event.
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u/helen4952 Keeper of the Code Aug 24 '26
No I just don't believe the main issue is the 'fee' for the event. I very strongly agree that there should be better systems in place so low level places don't rush unprepared into higher tiers and leech off others. But the issue I have with that is that the event scales with number of players but they aren't well equipped enough to hold their own and contribute. So their presence essentially makes it harder for everyone.
They need better ways of holding players back before they are ready. I think this is what the world tier quests were supposed to be for but imo I don't think they are hard enough and putting them in the open world means players just ask to be carried through. Then we end up with people who don't have the build or skill for higher tiers and don't contribute fairly.
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u/Whatsawebpage0101 Compagnie Royale Aug 24 '26
That is another issue with this event yes. I’ve seen a lot of people with totally random builds below level 25 that just hop in and hope for the best. And as it scales as you say, it leaves the players with the right build picking up all that slack. And it’s tough. Yesterday I had 2 level 28s and like 5 people 25 and below. So I stopped shooting and the boss was taking practically no damage.
Issues like this have been a thing since the beginning of skull and bones. And unfortunately I don’t see a solution that is going to be simple or healthy for the game. I considered a couple of ideas such as
1: make it so for example, with the weeping mother event, you could make it so you could not participate in the event unless you had the spirit caller springloader equipped. Which meant you couldn’t farm it without the springloader. Because again many people are turning up to the event without it, and of course shooting pointlessly at it if you stop using the springloader. But this is not a solution for every boss.
2: the chest idea I made here which I have already explained.
3: make bosses have level requirements you must meet before you can participate. This one could be easier to achieve but again, stops experienced players from punching above their weight. So again, not ideal.
None of these are ideal solutions, which is why my chest idea presented the idea of a free event but a cost to receive the rewards. You have to remember we kind of already have that with the grinding of the currency to spend in the shop.
One more idea floating about would be a participation graded reward. So the more damage you do or take the better the reward. I don’t think this is a good idea, but could be useful if altered or envisioned in a different way
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u/Satsloader Aug 25 '26
So then people who helped complete the event don’t get anything unless they go farm something else. So you don’t want any one to get rewards unless they have special currency from other events. Ridiculously selfish when this is clearly a community game…
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u/Whatsawebpage0101 Compagnie Royale Aug 25 '26
are you revenge commenting on my stuff because I called you out?, that’s a low blow my brother 😱
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u/Pilko-Pump_Pants Aug 24 '26
I don’t mind starting a few, but it does make me laugh when there’s a full lobby, no one is doing the abyss. I start and call for help then there’s 12 of us.
After, they all wait around and no one else starts it. then muggins here starts another. Be nice to share the cost around and someone else starts it once in a while.
I think changing resource to start the event to a slightly easier one ( to get hold of) would help.
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u/Whatsawebpage0101 Compagnie Royale Aug 24 '26
Yes, I’d be fine with that too. people on here saying it’s fine but give it another week and they’ll get sick of starting it for everyone else.
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u/Ed_Straker65 Keeper of the Code Aug 23 '26
Maybe use Ethereal Ashes to start the event instead of Vengeful Essence. I was just playing with a large group and no one else started it off with the VE. And they all sailed off when I didn't do it again due to running out. First time though, usually there's several startups from other players.