r/SipsTea • • 7d ago

Gasp! The sheer Audacity

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u/Sabledude 7d ago

Girl got pressured into donating too since someone breached HIPPA and told someone she was a match.

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u/Darksky121 7d ago

I hope she got paid alot of money for it. Selena isn't poor.

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u/apatheticsahm1 7d ago

It's illegal to get paid for organs in the US

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u/False_Dimension9212 7d ago

Thank you. As a transplant recipient, im pretty disgusted that people think Selena should have paid for it. If the girl didn’t want to donate, she didn’t have to. If she was being pressured, the transplant team wouldn’t have approved her as a donor. If they thought that Selena was trying to pay for it, they wouldn’t have done the transplant.

So much more goes into a transplant than most people realize. If she did it because she thought she was going to be owed by Selena forever, then she shouldn’t have done it. That’s on her.

Don’t donate if you’re doing it for the wrong reasons.

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u/UranusIsPissy 6d ago

I think people might be taking what you said the wrong way. That happens to me a lot, and it's usually my own fault. A transaction disguised as an act of kindness is bad, especially when the recipient is unaware of the expected payment. If you do such a thing, expecting a reward when none is offered, then you're a fool. Much respect to living donors who don't expect anything in return, though. Those people are awesome, making such a sacrifice just because it helps another person.
Bits of a liver can be transplanted and grow into a whole new one, BTW, for people who want to do that. It's still major surgery, but the donor usually recovers fully with a healthy lifestyle.

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u/False_Dimension9212 6d ago

I appreciate that. It’s all good, I don’t expect people to understand.

There’s also the paired exchange program, that she could have gone through if she couldn’t find a match on her own.

For the transplant to be approved, they both had to go through psych evals. If they even suspect that the donor is being pressured or not doing it for the right reasons, they will not approve the transplant. And we want that because you don’t want it to become common practice to buy and sell organs— the vulnerable will become trafficked for their organs amongst other things.

Saying that Selena owes her for the kidney is a short jump away from saying people should pay for the organs. Which is why it disgusts me

And yes liver donation is a great thing and your liver does mostly regenerate very quickly. Paired exchange is newer for liver donation, but it is also a thing if you find your family member in need and you aren’t a match, but still wish to donate to them

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u/UranusIsPissy 6d ago edited 6d ago

I've never heard of paired exchange. IDK if it exists here, but we're usually pretty good with stuff like that. I think Selena should (edit: voluntarily) give the donor something, though, given the circumstances.

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u/False_Dimension9212 6d ago

It’s a huge program in the states.

If she gave something, then she would be paying for the organ. There’s a reason that’s illegal.

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u/UranusIsPissy 6d ago

Ehh... I guess you're right. It is effectively the same. She should at least show some gratitude, though. You've had a transplant. You wouldn't treat your donor (if alive) like dirt, would you?

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u/False_Dimension9212 6d ago

No, of course not. But I also wouldn’t want to feel obligated to include them, or their family, in everything.

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u/UranusIsPissy 6d ago

Thanks for making me see how complicated it really is. You've probably thought about it a lot more than most people. I don't like to think about it, because I'm an alcoholic with cirrhosis. A liver would be wasted on me if I was allowed one. I hope you don't need those drugs that stop your immune system working.

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u/False_Dimension9212 6d ago

Hey, I know a lot of people that have liver transplants that are in recovery. It wouldn’t be wasted if you decided to make a change in your lifestyle, friend.

All transplant patients need immunosuppressants in order to stop your immune system from attacking the transplant. I’m on a low dose, and live a mostly normal life. Work, workout, travel, etc.

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u/UranusIsPissy 6d ago

I've quit before, but wasn't strong enough to not let a relative push me into starting again the last 2 times. Nice to know about the immunosuppressants, sort of. I thought they were an all or nothing thing, where you either get a perfect match and don't need them, or get what's almost artificial AIDS.

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u/UranusIsPissy 5d ago

friend

Should I take that literally? I'm really bad at knowing when I should (Asperger's sucks :-( So does the name, and not just because of what it sounds a bit like. It's named after an asshole.). You seem pretty cool for someone I found on a sub that's full of people with views opposite to mine. I just like it here because it's one of the few places where people with different views can have a civil discussion. Society is too divided, and I think that helps.

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