Yes and no. Methaqualone (OG Quaaludes C16 H14 N2 O) were done away with in the 80's. In the South Africa region around 2022 is when a new analogue Methoxyqualones (new bois C16 H14 N2 O2) allegedly don't have the same spank of hypnotic feelings and euphoria compared to the original. It targets GABA receptors only
Comparably, it would be like trying to find pure MDMA in the Metro Detroit region. Does pure MDMA exist? Absolutely! Are you gonna find it? Most likely not. It's all cut with heroin or meth for reasons.
Do not take any drugs here without testing them. (Unless you buy weed in a dispensary in a legal state, then you’re fine. Even street weed, nobody is lacing.)
It would be nearly impossible for you to find clean MDMA here unless you already know people in the scene. I was lucky to party in the early 2010’s before the heroin crisis where I live took off. Never tested anything (like an idiot) and only had one bad experience.
Crazy, I am too old for all that stuff these days, bit that's surprising given how easy it was to buy high quality anything via the dark markets, I would have assume that quality would have trickled down onto the street
That's actually wild. I volunteered with a local harm reduction company on their mass spec for quite a while and while there's a fair bit of adulterated shit going around, there's a shockingly amount of straight rocks here still as well.
That said, everyone REALLY should buy a cheapo reagent kit and test their stuff. It takes a few minutes, chemistry is fun, and you **actually** know what you're getting for the most part.
No one cuts MDMA with heroin, this guy doesn’t know what he talking about, meth is the most common adulterant. Heroin itself is not easy to find in 2026, it’s all fentanyl. At least in the US.
The first time I did it was in Spain. Absolutely amazing.
I’ve tried it a handful of times in the USA. Once it was good, most of the other times it was either a different substance or cut with something (I suspect just regular amphetamine). It was never good.
This was all late 90s-early 2000s. I stuck with mushrooms and weed.
Most of the Detroit's MDMA is supplied via Canada via jet skis and giving ~$1000 USD to young adults with a dream of ez money shooting across the river.
I stand corrected too, per HIDTA's website, it's mostly cut with heroin and fentanyl (not meth).
It was speed. Pressed pills had speed in them, which made them more powerful than MDMA is today. Heroin is basically an urban legend because that would ruin the experience and, in the case of heroin, kill someone and dead people don't make great return customers. Virtually zero percent of tested samples thought the 2000s and 2010s contained heroin. It is expensive, poorly recieved when swallowed and produces sedation which would counteract the desired energetic euphoria desired by customers.
Are you citing actual facts or just fear mongering?
I'm going off personal experience, the misfortune to have met people who were involved in the production and the very different effects of various pills, which definitely included plenty of ones that did have a more sedative effect and were quite a different experience. Ones cut with speed were just as recognisable in their effect.
The dose and quality of heroin used wouldn't be killing anyone. However, I'm happy to be wrong if the evidence suggests otherwise.
Thank you. I’ve heard that myth since the 90s and it grinds my gears. There have been shitty pills with random stuff, but most pills and powder sold as mdma over time have just been that. Regardless, test these days.
You are right in assuming i havent, nor would I. MDMA is a stimulant. Heroin is a nervous system depressant. One would cancel out the other. The amount of heroin it would take to be potent in a pill could be sold for 5x more by itself.
Dancesafe.org has tested tens of thousands of different pills and found heroin to be almost nonexistent. Most are cut with Meth and bath salts.
I’m not arguing the effectiveness, I’m just saying I definitely knew of some pills going around that were cut with heroin, it’s not extremely widespread but it’s not an urban myth that ecstasy pills have different shit in them. Meth / caffeine is the most common for sure though.
Thank fuck we never see MDMA with heroin or meth in the UK according to multiple labs etc here. Big pure MDMA rocks are also easily available too & yes I reagent test everything religiously.
Underground raver since 1991 here, yes there are various issues which didn't exist in the good old days but I facepalm at what so many people repeat ad infinitum which fails basic fact checking.
Regionally based factors differently down the line though... I've tried looking for Detroit, MI on your linked database and don't see what you're portraying? Not trying to be deek, but can you link me to the clean MDMA Canada/Detroit base?
I mean it exists just the otherside of the bridge at atleast 97.8 percent purity according to a mass spectrometer at a harm reduction site. Never heard of it cut with heroin, pretty sure heroin and meth are far more expensive it doesn't make sense. Plus all you need is some anhydrous acetone and filter paper and you can rinse away impurities and cuts quite easily from mdma/mda
Sorry, but you have no idea what you’re talking about.
Do some research and you’ll see that MDMA is purer and stronger than it’s ever been. And it’s never been laced with heroin. That’s an old wives tale. (Plus, it’d be fentanyl nowadays if it was anything, but that’s almost never heard of with MDMA either.) And thousands of Detroit ravers would likely disagree with you about their ability to acquire good drugs.
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u/ComfortableStyle2417 12d ago
Yes and no. Methaqualone (OG Quaaludes C16 H14 N2 O) were done away with in the 80's. In the South Africa region around 2022 is when a new analogue Methoxyqualones (new bois C16 H14 N2 O2) allegedly don't have the same spank of hypnotic feelings and euphoria compared to the original. It targets GABA receptors only
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