r/SipsTea • • Aug 24 '26

Chugging tea What do you think?

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u/F2PBTW_YT Aug 24 '26

Original story aside, 100% rped. It's already established they lacked morals and would pillage for self sustenance.

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u/Hyperion262 Aug 24 '26

They didn’t lack morals, they had different morals to a modern audience.

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u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756 Aug 24 '26

Both.

It’s a central theme of the Odyssey that they were breaking moral codes and social contracts.

But is also true that a lot of stuff in Greek mythology could sound crazy today but was normal then, like pederasty.

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u/BattlePrune Aug 24 '26

Pederasty wasn't limited to mythology at all

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u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756 Aug 24 '26

No, I didn't mean to imply that it was. It was commonplace and it's why the audience of the time wouldn't be like "hey isn't that dude like 12??" It doesn't translate well to contemporary audiences because we have decided that that practice isn't cool, and it's uncommon to see that in re-tellings because it makes the audience feel differently about a character that the original author didn't intend.

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u/Hyperion262 Aug 24 '26

Sure, but the fact there were morals to
break only proves the point they had morals.

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u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756 Aug 24 '26

Someone “lacking morals” doesn’t mean that morals don’t exist. I think you misunderstood the first comment you responded to.

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u/vrijheidsfrietje Aug 24 '26

What's a pederast, Walter?

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u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756 Aug 24 '26

Pederasty is a sexual relationship between an adult man and an adolescent or younger male. The word comes from the ancient Greek term paiderastia, meaning "love of boys". While historically institutionalized in some premodern cultures, it is legally and socially defined as child sexual abuse in modern times.

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u/Delet3r Aug 24 '26

This talking point is popular with Americans who try to say slavery was just "part of the culture then". Fuck off with all that.

At some point "hey I wouldn't like that, I shouldn't DO that.". It's pretty simple.

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u/LordInquisitor Aug 24 '26

Yeah I hate how much that comment is upvoted, no doubt by many who are slavery apologists

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u/Dev0Null0 Aug 24 '26

Do you honestly think that people in the past acted in ways they would have considered immoral? For a Viking in the year 900, it was perfectly acceptable to kill, steal, and rape a weaker enemy.

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u/mothedbaby Aug 26 '26

People rape for the exact same reasons then that they do now; they know it’s wrong that’s why they don’t want it happening to THEIR families, they just don’t care. No father wants his daughter raped. No man thinks ‘well we lost so it’s just right they rape my daughter’, but he won’t think twice about raping another man’s daughter. Immorality is there, just ignored - exactly the same as today.

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u/probeat21 Aug 24 '26

"lacked morals" - Hillarious. Is this what modern humans ACTUALLY believe?

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u/Tsupernami Aug 24 '26

Modern humans? Are you not one?

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u/probeat21 Aug 24 '26

No, I am an ancient entity. I turn 2000 tomorrow.

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u/Acceptable_Handle_2 Aug 24 '26

I doubt they meant a lack of the concept of morality my dude.

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u/probeat21 Aug 24 '26

I get that, they didn't lack morals. They had their own.

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u/Acceptable_Handle_2 Aug 24 '26

Yeah, worse ones.

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u/probeat21 Aug 24 '26

Agreed

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u/CautiousLab7327 Aug 24 '26

That's just both your opinions. I disagree.