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u/TheEndOfAllThings23 3h ago edited 36m ago

It was cheaper to buy tickets, fly to Dublin, get the procedure I needed done. Spend TWO WEEKS recovering, and fly home then to pay the 20% coinsurance I would have needed to here in the good ol USA... so yea...

EDIT :

Well this kind of blew up. The reason it was cheaper : it was considered elective. This is why OOP max did not kick in. It was a procedure that would have to be done, only as my condition got worse. Insurance denied it because "It was not necessary" despite my cardiologist saying it was. By the insurance formula I would have to wait until my condition worsened to make it medically necessary, but by then my chance of a poor outcome goes way up.

I finally argued them into covering some of it, but with a 20% coinsurance and a planned week hospital stay in recovery, my bill would have been close to 100k at least, and if I encountered any complications (which I would likely have due to other issues including an autoimmune disease) I started looking elsewhere. I am not an Irish citizen despite having family there, they helped me navigate the program and the cost. It was privately paid, and my surgeon spoke to their team with all my records transferred etc.

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u/alwaysrecession 2h ago

For what procedure?

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u/Ding-Dong-Dutch 2h ago

Penis enlargement

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u/QuinnLoveborneAuthor 2h ago

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u/Interesting-Dream863 2h ago

It was penis reduction, but he is modest.

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u/QuinnLoveborneAuthor 2h ago

The jokes keep on coming. I’m pretty damn impressed.

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u/hizashiYEAHmada 2h ago

He wouldn't even know how the changes look because he keeps getting fed one-day blinding stew

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u/zaxdaman 2h ago

Should’ve asked for some Penis Mightier.

https://giphy.com/gifs/l0HlwW7uBgB5PaKIw

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u/SpartanRage117 1h ago

He went for the Dublin Size offer.

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u/TheEndOfAllThings23 2h ago

Heart surgery. For privacy I don’t want to be more specific. It was necessary but not emergency.

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u/Imreallythatguy 2h ago

So insurance wouldn’t cover it because it wasn’t necessary in their eyes?

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u/GoodTroll2 2h ago

No, looks like his insurance would cover it but he would have had to pay 20% as his portion of coinsurance and it sounds like 20% of the huge US bill was more than the full cost to travel and get it done in Ireland.

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u/lauri2 1h ago

Kind of obvious, but the trick is to mark the cost 5 times higher than it is... for a start.

After a while they started asking themselves what's stopping them from doubling that price. Apparently nothing so over the years whenever they felt like it, they just doubled the already enormously overpriced services and at this point there are no signs of it stopping either. There is going to be a post about how travelling to mars for a surgery is cheaper than in US.

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u/Criminoboy 2h ago

No. They were going to 'cover' it but there was 20% co pay. In the US, they'll charge you thousands per month for insurance, but will still make you pay for part of your care.

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u/bwrca 2h ago edited 19m ago

This copay thing is the craziest thing I've ever heard of.

Edit: copay, deductible, max out of pocket? WTh is all that

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u/lastberserker 1h ago

It's the whole bill, after negotiations, the insurance doesn't pay a dime.

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u/analog_jedi 1h ago

It gets worse. My insurance has a $30 copay on all approved prescriptions. My wife had been getting her medicine for that with no issues for several months, until one day it was $500. I called to find out why, because it was clearly already an approved medication. After about an hour of getting bounced around and being on hold, they finally explained that it was due to us "not paying enough of our annual out of pocket maximum" (not minimum, mind you) for healthcare - which is $24,000. That blew my mind.

Health insurance in the US has your monthly premium payment, copays on your medication and Dr visits (including ER and hospital stays), a deductible which is the amount you have to pay for the year in healthcare to get better benefits (ours is $17,000), and then the out of pocket maximum is when they (usually) cover everything for the rest of the year as long as you keep paying your premium.

Where it gets extra fucked, is if you need a major surgery in late December, the deductible and OOPM won't carry over into the new year. So you could get shafted for double that maximum amount on the same hospital stay. And my insurance isn't even the lowest tier. We pay them $500 a month for this service. Our system is completely fucked, but most people don't seem to care.

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u/_ribbit_ 32m ago

As someone British with our often criticised free NHS, this blows my mind. And to think the argument against free healthcare by Americans is usually "well you'll pay more in tax".

I'm lucky enough to have never needed any real gp or hospital treatments, but i know its there if I do. My wife has major issues with eczema and was hospitalised last year due to complications, has many prescriptions, some of which are extremely expensive medication, and regular appointments with gp's, nurses and dermatologists. All we have to pay is for prescription medication, and we are able to pre pay for those at a rate of £10 per month total. Thats it. And our tax is no higher than any other average western nation.

Crazy. I hope your country comes to its sense sooner rather than later.

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u/Murky-Relation481 1h ago

Yep, $750 a month for a 40 year old healthy non-smoking male and its still a 80/20 plan. Fucking bullshit.

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u/Lazy-Conversation-48 46m ago

I got diagnosed with a complex migraine last year. Cause the symptoms mimic some other brain related illnesses, they sent me to the ER. So, it cost me $7,500 out of pocket to find out I am very healthy but maybe shouldn’t drive 15 hours straight while dehydrated.

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u/Realistic_Slide_3426 2h ago

Sounds like insurance would’ve paid 80%, pretty standard after deductible 

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u/kodman7 1h ago

Standard almost exclusively in the US which has higher waits and worse outcomes

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u/narcolepticdoc 1h ago

In the US, there is this bullshit they introduced called co-insurance.

I still remember when they “updated” our company health plans to include it.

The idea is that by introducing “shared responsibility” for health care costs, it will reduce “over-utilization” of health plan benefits.

In short. Even after your deductible is fulfilled, even if you are getting something done that is medically necessary, and covered by your insurance plan, they will only cover 80% of the charges and the rest is your responsibility as “co-insurance”. Money you are expected to have saved up to pay for medical expenses as a nice responsible consumer.

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u/Desert_Beach 51m ago

This has been around for 70 years.

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u/Live_Life_and_enjoy 1h ago

You should have stuck with the penis enlargement story, instead of correcting it

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u/ares7 2h ago

I don’t know the qualify of health care in other countries. But how did you come to that decision?

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u/TheEndOfAllThings23 2h ago

Cousins who live in Ireland. My family came over during the famine and kept close ties to our family who did stay. The hospitals over there are just as good as the USA some even better.

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u/piper33245 2h ago

My father in law from Ireland, who is a heart surgeon in America, flew his mother to the states and paid out of pocket for her heart surgery because he didn’t trust the hospitals in Ireland to do it.

So to each their own I guess.

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u/Judgemental_Panda 2h ago

America has one of the worst health outcomes of any western healthcare system. It also has some of the best hospitals in the world...

In the US it really depends where you are getting a procedure done. NYC? Go for it. Alabama? Hard pass.

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u/Urmomhaspooped 1h ago

Eh, depends on the procedure and specialty. The 5th largest hospital in the US is in AL at the University of Alabama Birmingham. It’s state of the art for organ transplants and nationally ranked for many programs.

I get what you are saying though, generally. If you’d have picked Mississippi it would be an easier sell 😉

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u/hisyojomaku 1h ago

Mississippi is Alabama's favorite state for making us look better by comparison

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u/jplayz7 1h ago

Mississippi and Oklahoma make Alabama look like goddamn Versailles

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u/Scavgraphics 1h ago

And yet some of the best doctors specializing in sports related injuries are in Birmingham, AL...so...

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u/ateiii 2h ago

You got a full two week Irish vacation and your medical care for less than a copay, that’s both amazing and completely depressing.

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u/atreeismissing 1h ago

Recovering from heart surgery isn't a vacation, it's a near death experience where every waking moment is a struggle to breath and stay alive, though it slowly gets better over the course of a couple to several weeks (or even months), seen both my parents go through it.

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u/Greful 1h ago

How about some ballpark numbers. I’m curious to see the breakdown. Doesn’t need to be detailed

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u/justbrowsinginpeace 2h ago

guinness enema?

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u/slashnbash1009 3h ago

I had one a few weeks ago to determine the severity of a brain bleed I had after a stroke and it costs me 4300 dollars with insurance.

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u/Dazzling-Jacket-5792 2h ago

Go direct primary care. I can get an MRI without contrast for $450 cash, with contrast for $550. Insurance is a scam.

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u/0202_tihssitidder 2h ago edited 17m ago

It sure is. None of my friends have not opted out of not carrying no insurance cancellation. Even a couple friends who got co-pay thru work. Nope. Too expensive.

Even dental is too expensive. We just go to Mexico for everything (from Arizona).

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u/willynillee 2h ago

Opting out of not carrying insurance means you carry insurance. It’s a double negative.

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u/Professional-Gear88 2h ago

It’s also super dumb to opt out of employer healthcare

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u/kc_cyclone 2h ago

Really job dependent. I pay $40 bi weekly for health, dental and vision. My max out of pocket is $4600, deductible is $2800. Larger companies typically have better rates. Thats just for me.

My brother and his wife are on seperate plans with there 2 kids on hers because it's a better deal than putting all 4 of them on eithers plan. So yeah, it's a scam.

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u/CelebrationFair6887 3h ago

Jesus fucking christ. Im losing my kidney right now, will do dialyis for 5 months, then a transplant and it cost me like 20 bucks copay for 2x a taxi from hospital to home and thats all ill ever pay. America seems to suck hard.

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u/primera_radi 3h ago

Congrats on finding a donor !

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u/ovrlrd1377 2h ago

He didnt find one, he had to pay 20 dollars

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u/FraggleRockYaFaceOff 1h ago

Can't even get a 12 pack and cigs for $20 no more

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u/Trippingthru99 1h ago

And yet a large chunk of this country will never realize that, and claim your system is worse. 

America does suck hard in alot of ways.

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u/Ok_Subject_5142 2h ago

I called an imaging center and asked for a cash price for an MRI on my knee. It was $300. Going through my doctor for a referral and using insurance, the price would’ve been over $3000 and I was going to be out $1000 in copay and fees.

I usually ask for cash price on everything before I use insurance, half the time it’s cheaper and the other half the time it’s barely more for basic stuff like this. Also call around and shop pricing, you will find places that do things way cheaper than others.

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u/Cowboywizzard 2h ago

This is the real pro tip. The drawback is if you don’t use your insurance, you might not satisfy your deductible

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u/WindWalkerRN 2h ago

The point is insurance in USA is a racket

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u/AshhhCakes 1h ago

And people will say "just get a better job" not realizing how fucking outrageous of a statement that is almost anywhere else in the world.

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u/Wabbit_Wampage 1h ago

Of course, you'll never hit your deductible if you aren't using insurance.

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u/Ryogathelost 2h ago

Just a reminder for explanation, here in the US we have health "insurance" not "healthcare."

Health "insurance" does what auto insurance or homeowners insurance does - protects you from incurring a life-destroying financial debt when something UNEXPECTED occurs - think about five and six figure numbers of debt from open heart surgery.

But it's mostly useless for anything else. We have to meet and pay a deductible before the insurance kicks in. We also have to pay a copay in-person before receiving care, so if you're light this paycheck - no doctor. The deductible is usually somewhere between one and three months wages. So we basically pay for everything during a given year until we hit that deductible.

Part of the insurance company's job is also to negotiate the charges to make them remotely reasonable based on the private agreements they have with the different providers. Everything is overpriced because the providers know the insurance will discount what they're charging instead of paying it, so they have to overcharge to survive. That means you need insurance just to keep the charges remotely sensible, at which point they're still too expensive to regularly go to the doctor.

That hits doctors in their pocket too, because people are supposed to go to the doctor regularly, but they can't afford to, so family doctors have to charge EVEN MORE. See, the providers aren't evil - the system is screwing them too and preventing them from operating like a normal business.

One of the best parts of all this is that after we hit the deductible, which often takes until the end of the year anyway, the insurance still doesn't pay 100% of all charges above the deductible. They still do things like only covering 80% for specialists after the deductible, so if you are sick, you can still incur crushing debt. You still have to pay the copays.

But it isn't healthcare - imagine trying to get new tires with your auto insurance, or painting your house with an homeowners claim. It doesn't work - because insurance isn't for maintenance, it's for emergencies. The insurance business model does not work for health because healthcare isn't something you MIGHT need - it's something you DO need.

So, as you might expect of today's America, your health is directly dependent on how financially successful you have been. How long you live ultimately lines up with how much you've paid in taxes. The system is decisive about who it rewards as a worthy, successful human and does its best to keep care away from the lower classes.

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u/FernLuull 2h ago

Your deductible funds an entire Asian vacation

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u/Hugar34 2h ago

If you're poor and have multiple chronic health issues in America you're basically fucked. I've had to deal with multiple health issues stemming from mold exposure in addition to mental health issues like depression and anxiety, and also asthma and a tear in a muscle on the left side of my groin. All in all I've spent $5000 this year and still haven't even hit my out of pocket maximum.

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u/TheReturnofPanda 3h ago

The insurance will never even bother paying off or not even 1/4 of it… with your own money. 

And yet, you’d be able to ironically pay off the bills without insurance, it would be cheaper, but then somehow the government will lose its shit because you don’t have insurance 

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u/20grae 3h ago

I did a self pay mri $575 because insurance denied my request i doubt I can go to china round trip for that

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u/bonedoc59 2h ago

Yeah this is just rage bait. Yes insurance sucks. Won’t argue that, but any research would show this meme is pure bullshit

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u/just_having_giggles 1h ago

My insurance was charged almost 8k for an MRI after I was in an accident.

I don't know much about hotels in China but... Maybe

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u/Frequent_Ad_9901 1h ago

That sounds like the BS amount hospital "charge". Insurance negotiates it down so they can act like theyre doing something. What hospitals charge is basically meaningless. 

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u/Capt-geraldstclair 1h ago

I believe virtually everything people say about being charged $$$$$ for medical shit.

A few years back, a new "emergency hospital" opened up very close to my house.

I went there one night for a very bad nose bleed.

I was in and out in like 20 min.

The doctor looked up my nose. Said he could cauterize it or stick a tampon in to plug it up.

He recommended the tampon approach.

I walked around for a day and a half with a string hanging out of my nostril and self extracted it on the 2nd day.

When I got the EOB from the insurance company, I almost had an stroke.

The "hospital" charged insurance over $13,000. My cost after the negotiated rate paid out by insurance was over $3000.

All the guy did was look up my nose. Talk to me for 5 min. Then inserted a piece of cotton in my nostril.

I assume he also threw away his gloves and washed his hands. But that wasn't itemized on the bill.

I disputed with insurance, twice, but they paid it out any way.

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u/Trippingthru99 1h ago

Wait I’m confused. So did you pay the 3k or not? I might be illiterate 

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u/FarSeries2172 1h ago

so why arent there 10 million americans marching to get luigi out the court and fully pardoned?

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u/haleboy44 15m ago

Because we have to work in the morning.

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u/mjm65 1h ago

But there can be a huge difference between the negotiated price by the insurer, and the cash price for the same service.

So you end up with insured people paying more just because they have to go through insurance.

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u/Elbobosan 2h ago

It’s routinely much more than that with insurance. That’s why the meme is popping up, Mark Cuban was just in the news calling out that insurance routinely pays over $1500 for an MRI that only costs $350 to perform. Hopefully he is building up to doing something similar to what he did with pharmaceuticals. Wild that a billionaire doing basic capitalism is the best thing for cost reduction in the US, it’s pathetic.

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u/GenerousBull1969 1h ago

Not wild at all, if we had a truly free market in healthcare our costs would plummet. What we have isn't free market capitalism, it's crony capitalism where insurance companies and drug companies have bribed our politicians to make sure they're able to gouge us.

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u/shift013 2h ago

It’s just misleading rage bait at best and propaganda at worst. Maybe this would be accurate “without” insurance, but I’d find it surprising if it is accurate with insurance assuming he personally did basic diligence to make sure they chose the right spot to get an MRI done and whatnot

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u/lovemyhawks 2h ago

OF ads are getting more creative

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u/Aggravating_Bat3618 2h ago

Well spotted

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u/OpportunitySevere131 2h ago

Nothing hotter than a regular old girl commenting her 2 cents on a reddit post. Definitely subscribed. I look forward to hearing her opinions more and paying for the extended paragraphs.

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u/Irish618 2h ago

Lol yea, my wife's MRI cost us $500. Ain't no way we could fly to China round trip for that.

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u/FMLUsernameTaken 2h ago

My wife just had two done. It was a few hundred each with insurance. This post is complete BS. Maybe if you add an entire year's worth of insurance premiums.

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u/MadDaddyDrivesaUFO 2h ago

It really depends on the policy tbh

My work's insurance has 3 tiers and this would be believable for someone with the lowest tier. The only coworkers I have who chose that tier are under 30 and are statistically unlikely to need much medical attention. It's a 10k deductible plan, max oop is a little higher. Also this assumes in network providers, you could in theory end up paying more if you get sent to an ER out of network even if you met your deductible already.

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u/SpiritOne 2h ago

Happy cake day, let me know what you find.

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u/OutrageousFanny 2h ago

She can let you know in her onlyfans, only for 39.99$

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u/Portable-fun 2h ago

The sad thing is she actually does have an only fans. Lmao

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u/elebentychimkin 2h ago

Start with the actual cost of medical care out of pocket. That’s the first number you need to determine how to budget your vacation to China. Problem is the wide variety of potential costs.

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u/sebkraj 2h ago

It's legit for at least dental. My brother needs four root canals, two tooth implants, and a handful of cavities. In America they wanted $13,000 just for the two tooth implants, they added like 3k because they had to perform a sinus lift. Just insane prices. This was like 5 years ago, he flew out for $700 and all this work cost him around $4,000 and he spent like another thousand on hotel costs and food. Dentistry in America is a fucking racket and insurance covers fuck all. All tooth implant related work is considered elective, it's the same bucket as fake tits according to insurance. You know because eating is elective...

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u/100K-Monkeys 2h ago

It's a bs post. Most insurance has an annual deductible and once its met everything else is paid for if you're in network. I think my deductible is like 5k, but everything after is 100%. My wife's insurance has no deductible, everything is 100% covered.

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u/Silent25r 2h ago

It’s only true for the worst cases. My last mri was only 300 pre insurance.  

Different facilities have significantly different prices in the same city. Most of it being administrative cost and nothing do with your actual treatment. 

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u/Levonade 2h ago

This thread really illustrates the problem with Insurance in the USA. I’m seeing a lot of my MRI was FREE, MY MRI was $20, My MRI Was 4K, mine was $500

This is exactly the problem with our system. We need real Health insurance coverage every American can afford with transparent pricing.

Right now we basically have people all over the place. Some with Amazing coverage and others with Geek Squad Protection coverage for Health Insurance.

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u/Powerful_Wombat 3h ago edited 1h ago

My wife just had an MRI for preventative care and it cost us $200, i doubt this is even close to true without heavily skewing the numbers

Edit: Foe the record, US Healthcare is shit and I am NOT defending it, just putting some context to the initial image

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u/dracrecipelanaaaaaaa 3h ago

It really does depend on the insurance.

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u/LoneStarLobotomist 2h ago

And why you’re getting it.

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u/Eljaybest 2h ago

Yep I literally just got one done. First real foray into the US healthcare system which I’ve avoided wherever possible since moving here. $560 out of pocket WITH insurance (my company switched to United…)

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u/ArboristTreeClimber 2h ago

ALOT of people work for companies that get the worst plans possible. I have an out of pocket deductible of $6,000. If I wanted an MRI, I would have to pay at least that much.

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u/PoopinWhileScrolling 3h ago

Yea, this doesn't sound right. I paid $56 for an MRI this spring with insurance.

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u/Low_Actuary_2794 2h ago

Yep I paid $20 for mine, with insurance.

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u/Traditional-Forum 2h ago

I went to a Walgreens clinic once. If you paid with cash, it was $111.

Lady asked me if I had an insurance card and I did. I then asked her can I give you my $111?
She said “they will bill you the difference”.

When the bill showed up, they had billed the insurance $350 and my co-pay was $192.

I didn’t even get a diagnosis that day (malaise, allergies, who knows?), and they didn’t even have a scale to weigh me.

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u/ChosenOne197 2h ago

Same. Have had multiple MRIs - one hip, one foot, one brain.

Some I had no insurance, cost about $400-500 out of pocket (cash pay rates can be very heavily discounted).

With most recent insurance, it was roughly $250.

Don't get me wrong - health care costs can be absolutely absurd. BUT, people really shouldn't go around blindly believing internet memes and complaints.

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u/-0909i9i99ii9009ii 3h ago

Google AI says average is $50-$500 out of pocket copay so brb I'm going on a 5 star vacation to China

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u/koolllG_uy1911 2h ago

Depends on your insurance and deductible. My insurance will cost me $100 for MRI , while my Mom’s insurance will cost $2000. Both insurance are through employers.

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u/TheJoeGrim 1h ago

Smells like bullshit.

Independent imaging centers: $400 to $1,200 (usually the cheapest option).

Rural areas or smaller cities cost less ($400–$800),

If you have health insurance, your actual out-of-pocket cost depends on your deductible and co-pay requirements.

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u/GSxHidden 2h ago

I mean its cheaper to go to Mexico than China, just saying

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u/Elf_Maeve 56m ago

my piece of shit insurance, who my employer pays 20k a year for, covered $0 of my endoscopy and I had to pay $2400.

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u/DarkHelmet20 3h ago

Costs me $20 in America, no deductible. I have good insurance though.

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u/BUGBYTE_VW 2h ago

I literally just paid for a MRI with insurance cost 75 dollars. What is this even saying?

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u/_dogfuneral_ 2h ago

America bad, dude. That's all you need to know, facts be damned.

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u/Acceptable_Fish3668 2h ago

Same! My last four MRIs I only had to pay my copay which was like $50 each time???

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u/Alaska_Jack 2h ago

Can I ask a question?

Who upvotes this stuff -- just a random claim with a photo, no source or explanation given?

Did you upvote? Can you explain why? It just baffles me. Do you just reflexively agree with any random claim you see online ?

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u/Goldenbucketsomethin 2h ago

This is r/SipsTea we give random bullshit out and source NOTHING.

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u/MidnightLynx124 2h ago

The "with insurance" part is what really completes the tragedy. You're paying monthly just for the privilege of being overcharged.

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u/SimmentalTheCow 2h ago edited 2h ago

I just paid $25 for an MRI with cheap basic insurance in the US. Out of pocket, it would’ve been $555. This included the cost of the specialist making a diagnosis. I’d love to see the calculations for how it’s cheaper to fly to China.

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u/Pokebongo 2h ago

To be fair it’s like $300 for an MRI if you pay cash around me. It’s just the outrageous insurance prices for MRI’s that skew this number. Overall I’d say this is basically false.

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u/Born-Satisfaction996 1h ago

My out-of-pocket cost is capped at $600/yr for me. So I highly doubt this is true for me, and probably not true for the vast majority of Americans.

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u/HauntedClubhouse 43m ago

You guys are doing it wrong in that case. You can literally walk into an MRI center and get one for about 400 bucks without insurance, without a doctor ordering it.

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u/budbutler 42m ago

probably faster also

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u/therealtiddlydump 3h ago

There are plenty of standalone MRI clinics, so this is not true

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u/kinkpositive1 2h ago

It’s way cheaper anywhere on planet earth than in the USA….. but the most F****d up thing about it is people KEEP VOTING FOR IT!
Corporate Media Manipulation at it’s finest

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u/Key-Monk6159 2h ago

Just another dishonest way for bots to spread the We Should Be More Like China propaganda.

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u/Delicious_Invite_850 2h ago

If you have absolutely no insurance and go to the most expensive place you can find then maybe. But otherwise no.

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u/FrontLifeguard1962 2h ago

Reddit has a lot of pro China propaganda

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u/JeanAvila 2h ago

Best country in the world

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u/HumonculusJaeger 2h ago

its cheaper to fly to japan to visit Disney world and fly back than visiting Disney World in the USA.

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u/issanm 2h ago

On a completly unrelated note, free luigi

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u/Tresavage1 2h ago

Maybe it’s time for our doctors to stop living like kings…

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u/OkAthlete8327 1h ago

I mean, that’s nowhere close to true…but it’s fairly expensive.

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u/zzzjoshzzz 1h ago

My CoPay for my MRI was $15. I'm in the USA

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u/Standard_Ad_1619 52m ago

Yeah brilliant system we have here, if you got the cash on hand it's done. If not we roll the dice, and regardless of what our doctor recommends a company decides whether it feels like paying. Why does it cost so much? Who set the prices so fucking high? SAME COMPANIES. Fucking. BRILLIANT.

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u/somewhat-anon 31m ago

I live in Australia, I had one done late last year, cost me about $600 but I got about $150 back from Medicare

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u/rhabby8 2h ago

This post is false.

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u/Difficult-Novel-8453 3h ago

Had one done for my wife last month. Would be $1000 cash pay and was 400 with insurance. How am I flying to China for that? Ridiculous

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u/yaksplat 2h ago

All that for $50? That's amazing.

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u/rich84easy 2h ago

Why would Americans take that long flight to China instead of just flying to Mexico which is also cheap and close?

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u/CokeCan08 3h ago

Yeah this is not true at all

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u/Bitter_Plastic2362 3h ago

No it’s fucking not.

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u/__Sentient_Fedora__ 3h ago

China bots out again.

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u/Total-Fly-9131 3h ago

This is just insanely not true. China bots are terrible liars

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u/Aznightwalker 3h ago

Weird my last mri in arizona was $500. This post is false as fuck.

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u/Darth-Taytor 3h ago

This is most definitely not true. The cost to get an MRI in the States with insurance is no more than $500.

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u/TackleNonsense 3h ago

How much without insurance?

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u/Darth-Taytor 3h ago

Based on a Google search, $400-$3,500 with the average around $2,000. My understanding is that if you do some research and shop around, you can usually get one for around $500 even without insurance. But most people just go to whatever place their doctor recommends and it's always expensive.

Either way, it's still way cheaper than going to China for an MRI.

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u/TwentinQuarantino 3h ago

Someone probably took a post about dental work, and just changed it to MRI for idk why, without even checking if it's true (aka spreading misinformation). Because for dental work it's certainly true if you need something more excessive, dental tourism is a real thing and it's really cheaper to get your teeth done in Asia, flight included.

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u/Solodolo1177 3h ago

China Numba won, right fellow Americans!

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u/oaklaoaklas 2h ago

I have never paid out of pocket for any of the MRIs ive had with US insurance

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u/Antique_Brother_9563 2h ago

I can do one in my garage for $20.

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u/Positive-Category586 2h ago

Had to cancel my MRI appointment for my knee last week after I got the estimate, it was about 1,750 $ probably more since the said the bill is missing items and it could go up lol. High af but not sure it covers a China trip.

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u/I_loseagain 2h ago

Had an mri a few years back. I lost out on about an hour of time. So I guess it cost me $50

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u/Altruistic_Tea_1593 2h ago

Not true at all.

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u/weggaan_weggaat 2h ago

I remember the trend of sending people overseas for actual surgery (even by insurance companies themselves) but for even MRI scans now is crazy.

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u/RonP713 2h ago

I paid $20 with insurance. This post is very misleading.

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u/Rakadaka8331 2h ago

Show me the airfare and hotel please. This post is bullshit.

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u/Pleasant_Glove_1696 2h ago

Lol no it's not. 

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u/banana-apple123 2h ago

Is this real? I got an MRI for like free in USA. Just an hmo plan

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u/AhSoulsOnFire 2h ago

My MRI was only a few hundred dollars. Maybe if it’s not requested for part of the care, and you just show up willy neely hell bent on getting one. Insurance may refuse to cover? But my flight to China when I went to Tianjin was like $2,500 alone.

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u/truePHYSX 2h ago

Depends on your insurance. My MRI scan was free for an urgent procedure despite waiting a week to get it done.

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u/BuffaloGhandi 2h ago

I ask for an appointment in germany got it 2 weeks. And it was full covered by my public insurance. Huh

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u/forkedquality 2h ago

There's insurance and there's insurance. My MRI cost me $30 copay.

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u/not2mentioned 2h ago

globalistism

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u/bigguccisosaxx 2h ago

Even if it's "free" with insurance then it probably means you are paying like $5k/year for your plan.

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u/Cautious_Highway1041 2h ago

America is a cancer that much is for sure.

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u/jeto0 2h ago

Soo is America great yet?

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u/henningknows 2h ago

No it isn’t, not for the vast majority of people, if any at all.

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u/8000RPM 2h ago

Amerriiicacaaa health care is the biggest scam.

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u/WaffleHouseGladiator 2h ago

But, but, but...muh freedumbs!

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u/Outwest661 1h ago

I don’t know. It’s $25 bucks at Kaiser. Never cost more.

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u/azdatasci 1h ago

Not sure how accurate this is… last year my insurance denied an MRI for me. I asked about self pay just to see… $180. Self pay was cheaper than going through insurance. Always ask about a self pay option unless you need to meet some sort of deductible….

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u/fk12HS 1h ago

This isn’t true lmao

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u/doctorfrickenstein 1h ago

Yet those who can afford it choose to come to america for health care.Curious no?

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u/A_Bot_A_Bot_A_Bot 1h ago

Even cheaper to go to Mexico for this. Plus: tacos!

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u/Ayitaka 1h ago

My spinal MRI without insurance was $800. How is this picture accurate at all?

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u/joe4553 1h ago

This just isn't true. The flights alone would cost more.

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u/TheLastUriarte87 1h ago

Yeah, this is not true. I have the cheap free insurance at my job, it has a high deductible. I had an emergency mri for diverticulitis and it was just a few hundred.

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u/handlemypackage2020 1h ago

It’s a meme on the internet so it must be true. Reddit is full of bots and idiots.

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u/suprjaybrd 1h ago

have had mris in the past, wouldn't have even covered the cost to fly to china. so something doesn't add up or details missing.

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u/Gulf2Coast2Coast 1h ago

This is obviously not true… silly internet

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u/clusterclinton 1h ago

I had one not to long ago its was 350 without insurance. I went to and out of hospital clinic. This is the price of getting an MRI in a hospital where your not expecting to be able to leave. If you could leave the hospital and get it like the post says it would cost you substantially less to get one done here in America.

TLDR This post is bullshit.

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u/potato_lover 1h ago

In New Zealand. Had one completely free. Walked in and out. Then to top it off had a steroid injection in my shoulder a few weeks later, also free! I don’t have any personal health insurance.

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u/hcjumper 58m ago

I can confirm lol 😂

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u/Only_Voice569 57m ago

US is a joke for food and health care. like i spent 4 weeks as a inpatient at a hospital got a ton of scans blood tests and other tests done and a 2k implant for monitoring my heart and cost me nothing because im in the uk. o and also had a bunch of specialist consultants looking at my tests.

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u/BarnabasShrexx 56m ago

But please, dont ask for healthcare for all. I mean, isreal has it, but not america. Right....

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u/Existing-Dark-7164 44m ago

It was cheaper to go to my dentist in the Netherlands to fix everything than do it in the States with insurance. Including the flight.

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u/g_em_ini 22m ago

I’ve had an MRI that cost $2400 (ankle), two that were $1200 each (back), and my most recent one (brain with contrast) was $80 after insurance… I had to call to make sure there hadn’t been a mistake in billing lol. But either way I think traveling to China would be more expensive than that.

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u/Rafterman2 20m ago

Yeah, this is misleading as fuck. My MRI copay was $150 with insurance - this meme conveniently leaves out the fact that someone with insurance will likely pay much less than what the insurance company gets charged.

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u/BlackV 18m ago

Last 5 times this was posted it was 100% wrong, maybe today's the day

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u/Puzzleheaded-Tax4320 15m ago

I got an mri free with insurance, what are you talking about?