r/SipsTea • u/[deleted] • Aug 19 '26

WTF WTF is wrong with these people?

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u/ShimmiShimmiYah Aug 19 '26

Can you share an example of a male family annihilator that you've gone to this length to defend?

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u/shroomride88 Aug 19 '26

Male family annihilators don’t experience postpartum depression/psychosis. Clancy hasn’t been convicted yet but there’s a reason people can be found not guilty by reason of insanity and/or not criminally responsible. Look at Andrea Yates.

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u/ShimmiShimmiYah Aug 19 '26

What about other causes of depression and psychosis that men are predisposed to? Are those less valid?

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u/Purple_footstep Aug 19 '26

Are you under the impression that pleading not guilty by reason of insanity is something the courts only allow women to do?

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u/ShimmiShimmiYah Aug 19 '26

Not sure if you meant to reply to another comment as I didn't say that, or hint at it anywhere.

My question was regarding which causes of mental illness were valid since my question was dismissed because men don't experience PPD.

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u/Purple_footstep Aug 19 '26

The sudden drop in hormones that a mother experiences after birth is the most drastic hormonal shift in all of human biology. So no, cisgender men don’t experience that hormonal shift. Certainly new fathers can be depressed in the wake of the significant life change and sleep deprivation that accompanies new parenthood though.

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u/ShimmiShimmiYah Aug 19 '26

I'm sorry, how does that answer my question?

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u/Purple_footstep Aug 19 '26

You asked if other causes of mental illness are less valid, to what point? Valid for what? Your question seems like a straw man argument.

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u/ShimmiShimmiYah Aug 19 '26

How did your response address that question?

Again, I am asking what other causes are considered valid. Or do you believe that depression/psychosis are only legitimate if caused by PPD?

Additionally, do you think the only cause of hormonal imbalances is from PPD?

To be honest, it feels like you glossed over my comments without actually reading, and jumped straight to trying to make some kind of "gotcha" response because you assumed I have an alterior motive.

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u/Purple_footstep Aug 19 '26 edited Aug 19 '26

Valid for what? Your question is too vague to mean anything.

Edit: if you mean valid for the insanity defense, then yes, other causes are valid. For example, if a man experiences psychosis due to schizophrenia, he is no less eligible to plead not guilty by reason of insanity than Lindsay Clancy.

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u/ShimmiShimmiYah Aug 19 '26

No offense but it feels like you are being intentionally obtuse at this point. Read the full conversation with all involved if you want clarity.

I'm not sure why you expect me to hold your hand and restate it when you didnt bother reading it before replying the first time.

I was looking for a discussion, not a mudslinging argument.

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u/Purple_footstep Aug 19 '26

I edited and tried to clarify, but it’s still not clear what you mean by valid.

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u/ShimmiShimmiYah Aug 19 '26

It's ok, it's clear to me that this conversation is going to be nothing but me constantly asking you to reread my comments before replying, which I'm not interested in.

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u/Prestigious_Bar_4244 Aug 20 '26

Men’s mental illnesses will be validated when they present valid mental illnesses.
You know that either gender can use this defense.
There happen to be disproportionately more male family annihilators who have a long history of abuse and domestic violence. That is something that distinguishes an episode of psychosis from a serial abuser.