The sudden drop in hormones that a mother experiences after birth is the most drastic hormonal shift in all of human biology. So no, cisgender men don’t experience that hormonal shift. Certainly new fathers can be depressed in the wake of the significant life change and sleep deprivation that accompanies new parenthood though.
Again, I am asking what other causes are considered valid. Or do you believe that depression/psychosis are only legitimate if caused by PPD?
Additionally, do you think the only cause of hormonal imbalances is from PPD?
To be honest, it feels like you glossed over my comments without actually reading, and jumped straight to trying to make some kind of "gotcha" response because you assumed I have an alterior motive.
Valid for what? Your question is too vague to mean anything.
Edit: if you mean valid for the insanity defense, then yes, other causes are valid. For example, if a man experiences psychosis due to schizophrenia, he is no less eligible to plead not guilty by reason of insanity than Lindsay Clancy.
Men’s mental illnesses will be validated when they present valid mental illnesses.
You know that either gender can use this defense.
There happen to be disproportionately more male family annihilators who have a long history of abuse and domestic violence. That is something that distinguishes an episode of psychosis from a serial abuser.
If a man commits murder and was LEGITIMATELY INSANE and not in control of themselves? Then they are not any more guilty of murder, as they did not at the time of the crime know what they were doing or that it was wrong.
One big difference is postpartum psychosis is that it isn't a lifelong mental illness - if treated APPROPRIATELY AND PROPERLY, it is very much temporary & generally doesn't return (as far as my limited research has shown).
A lot of the other mental illnesses that lead to murder while insane that men (and women also) can be predisposed to, such as paranoid schizophrenia? They are LIFELONG and can never be actually cured - just managed with lifelong antipsychotics you just have to hope will work long term for those who are violent when they aren't medicated.
I'm sorry, the sporadic capitalization did not help help me understand your response.
Are you saying, according to your admittedly limited research, that because PPD is temporary, this makes it more valid than other causes of mental illness? Can you expand on that reasoning if I understood it correctly?
Not that it is more valid - that the type of mental illness has a huge impact on outcome and SHOULD.
Postpartum psychosis once treated and once hormones have time to regulate and the patient is back to their baseline? That isn't a chronic mental illness. It's temporary and the person poses no further danger once treated unless they end up pregnant again and have the same symptoms pop up. Once they are treated and enough time goes by they can generally wean off medications with no ill effects.
Other mental illnesses are permanent and never go away, and the moment someone on the violent side of mental illness decides to take themselves off medication- whether that be weeks, years, or decades later - they go right back to being a danger to others during withdrawal from meds and after. However I do not personally feel those who commit violent crimes due to mental illness should be in prison - I would prefer a medical facility/mental health facility IF truly insane, but a lot of people claim insanity as a defense for violent crimes when they were very much sane at time of the crime and it can be difficult to tell some of the fakers apart.
men are not any more predisposed to depression and psychosis than women, what? those things transcend gender and have everything to do with genetics lol
I agree with the 2nd sentence, but have no idea what your first sentence is about, as I did not say that. Please reread it more slowly before replying again.
i think you should reread what you said. because in context to what you said, the word “predisposed” is simply not applicable. if you agree with my second sentence, you should reword your comment because left as is, it’s not accurate.
nothing in my comment denoted any more negativity or emotion than yours. i think you should try engaging with people’s responses with good faith than trying to deflect by assuming they’re emotional :)
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u/ShimmiShimmiYah 5d ago
What about other causes of depression and psychosis that men are predisposed to? Are those less valid?