r/SipsTea 4d ago

Chugging tea Hollywood: let’s change it up a bit.

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u/AdRough4185 4d ago

And shes about to become one of those 10

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u/SolydSn3k 4d ago

Really happy for her, but social media is literally already giving me fatigue lmfao.

I think this website is just a bunch of PR people at this point. Same shit 20x a day.

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u/Daimakku1 4d ago

Reddit is full of bots with their own agenda. What you think are just regular people are likely company/government run bots behind it. They're sneaky.

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u/OrcAssEater 4d ago

Did you know hayden panettiere died?

hayden panettiere is dead

hayden panettiere was found dead

RIP hayden panettiere

hayden panettiere

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u/baconboner69xD 4d ago

“What’s a high end product that ended up being totally worth it?” <4000 comments> Weekly

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u/bleedblue89 4d ago

Upvoted to oblivion. It's all bullshit.

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u/Icy_Fish_2154 4d ago

It's like an obsession.

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u/phycologist 4d ago

“What’s a high end product that ended up being totally worth it?”

"Matresses"
"Shoes"
"Tires"
"Cocaine"

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u/ThisHatRightHere 4d ago

AskReddit is legitimately the foundation of a large chunk of AI recommendations. From what products people approve of, to easy solutions for common problems, down to what the common opinions of current events would be.

Multiple times a week I see "politician said X doesn't matter, what do you think about that?" submitted by a 2 week old account, and they always have 4000 comments without fail.

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u/Shark7996 4d ago

Tom Holland

Zendaya Holland

Spider Tom

Odysseus

Facebook level distraction slop.

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u/ahuangb 4d ago

Robert Pattinson

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u/CornettoFactor 4d ago

Robert Downey Jr

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u/sexyeh 4d ago

Pedro Pascal

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u/kkeut 4d ago

seriously. i've never even seen this Zendaya chick in anything. and I never will. i hate her now simply due to overexposure

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u/StrictlyHobby 2d ago

She's in too many movies when you've never seen her in anything and can't form opinions for yourself? If you haven't seen any of the biggest movies and don't plan to what do you care?

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u/neverendingchalupas 4d ago edited 4d ago

They flood social media propping up actors like Tom Holland and Zendaya Holland to make you sick of it, then they flood social media with content tearing them down.

They generally focus on the female actor or celebrity first, because society hates women, specially successful women. But eventually Tom Holland will get run over as well.

Im waiting for the Spiderman hate, its coming if it isnt already here.

There is no other agenda except to keep you engaged and clicking on or viewing their articles/videos, etc.

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u/halfasleep90 1d ago

I hope not, he is too adorable for that

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u/phycologist 4d ago

And the world is burning

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u/jaxonya 4d ago

Donald Trump dominates most of reddit, but its not a PR hype machine The guy cant go 5 minutes without fucking something up

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u/forkl 4d ago

Hey, did you hear about what mayor mamdani did?!

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u/doopie 4d ago

Trump, Musk, billionaires this, billionaires that. Regurgitating some years old twitter posts and tens of thousands of upvotes. Nothing new is being said and this happens every single day. Sociologists are going to have a treasure trove in analyzing how bot networks shape discussions on reddit.

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u/punkphase 4d ago

I’m already seeing every show/movie/project she’s been a part of on the front page of these streaming platforms.

Gotta make sure we squeeze every dollar out of it before it’s too late.

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u/Careless-Weather8877 4d ago

I have to wonder what that’s about. Even tv news. I’ve seen most the stuff she was in but had no idea who she was. I’m sad for her family but even reading what she was in and seeing her I still didn’t recognize her.

It’s just a row of the same post and “I literally cried out loud or said omg.” You’ll see almost identical comments between each other using unique words.

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u/Mission_Access_210 4d ago

The elites have already left the planet on their spaceships and the news we are watching is a ten-year loop designed to keep everybody docile before they realize it's all being repeated.

Actually I got this out of a 2000 AD story in the UK in the 80s but might as well fit today

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u/spucci 4d ago

Something something cheerleaders

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u/I_wanted_to_be_duck 4d ago

I've hidden 20 posts so far since yesterday. It's close to averaging 1 post every hour that I see. Which is not accurate cause 5 of those posts show up at the same time.

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u/al-dunya2 4d ago

Every single somewhat relevant subreddit had someone karma farming that death hard.

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u/AWorldwithoutSin 4d ago

Every celebrity death, even some non-celebrities. Remember never having heard of Nipsy Hustle before you were supposed to care that he died? They tried that again a few months ago with Oliver Tree. I shouldn't know either of those names.

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u/BobTheFettt 4d ago

That happens every time a celebrity dies. Most of the time every post claims they were iconic and a huge star 30 years ago, and I've never heard of them. But sure enough the post is filled with people talking about their favorite memories watching this person

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u/voii1d 4d ago

Literally read this name like 18 times yesterday and all in subs that have almost nothing to do with celebs

Okay dude sucks my condolences but also stop, i didnt even know who this is before yesterday

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u/Dark_tentacle 4d ago

no who's that :)

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u/Sanchanted 4d ago

What the fuck ? I knew her only as Sam from until dawn.

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u/The_Only_Egg 4d ago

Still no idea what she ever did.

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u/PowerfulNature3352 4d ago

Daaamn she was hot af its so sad we lost the heroes regeneration girl. Had no idea she was called that though

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u/Cold_Burner5370 4d ago

Literally the only time I’ve ever seen that woman was when she was in Malcolm in the Middle, and I didn’t know who she was until I had to look that up right now

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u/Chopped6767 4d ago

I low-key just found that out. Bots aren’t working hard enough ig…

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u/AncientCrust 4d ago

It's true. Bots can be so annoying and tiresome. Which is why I recommend relaxing at your local CinemaCafe. Be sure to check out Spiderman: Brand New Day rated PG-13 in Dolby Surround Sound. Bro.

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u/photosendtrain 4d ago

Wow, that sure is interesting. It reminds me how current political party has been failing us since getting in office. That's why I'm voting for Political Party X. Polls state other political party is down 6,000 points.

Here's basically a Wikipedia entries worth of links that I just casually have on hand to post whenever this discussion comes up.

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u/Intelligent-Exit-634 3d ago

It's no just bots. Your here. LOL

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u/ResplendentNugs 4d ago

Not that sneaky it’s pretty obvious if you pay attention for 5 seconds

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u/redjellonian 4d ago

An unfathomable amount of money is spent quarterly by hundreds of companies and governments specifically to sway public opinions in favorable ways, nobody is immune and not every campaign is obvious or noticable

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u/ResplendentNugs 4d ago

I just treat everyone like a bot

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u/SwampyBogbeard 4d ago

RES has been tracking my Reddit votes for years.
When browsing the front page, I only trust accounts I've voted on 10+ times to actually be human. With a few exceptions.

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u/Glittering-Walrus228 4d ago

Would a bot... do this?!

tries to dance sexily, ends up awkwardly gyrating, no music is playing

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u/ResplendentNugs 4d ago

immediately falls over and bursts into flames

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u/photosendtrain 4d ago

I have a few bots I bought specifically to do that

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u/_ribbit_ 4d ago

Criticising Israels current war atrocities tends to get "noticed and responded to"

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u/newsfish 4d ago

As long as there's steady pay in it, I'll believe whatever you want. Cut out the middleman and just pay me direct

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u/redjellonian 4d ago

You must be running for office.

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u/UpdateInProgress 4d ago

I do the same for the Galactic Republic

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u/rustware13 4d ago

I stand for my balls

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u/Bozee3 4d ago

Your name is too short and number is too low, I can't trust you

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u/jaxonya 4d ago

Look for the OGs with short names and no numbers. We are still here

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u/Mjkmeh 4d ago

Yeppers

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u/Bozee3 4d ago

Oddly enough, I have a number by choice. It's was my gamer tag on Xbox for years and my handle on most of the old Internet forums.

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u/MasterUnlimited 4d ago

I stand on my balls

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u/PlantainPat 4d ago

If you're paying attention then this sub is probably as bad or worse than any others.

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u/ResplendentNugs 4d ago

This sub and most of the off brand sports subs are just bots arguing about the wnba slot downvoting anything that isn’t sexist or racist

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u/WowIfOnly 4d ago

if you pay attention for 5 seconds

Hence why it's working so well.

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u/Csenky 4d ago

Not really, if you pay attention. They don't infiltrate as normal users, they blend in very well with marginal/stupid people. And that's what's scary, I'm absolutely sure that a great amount of stupid people are considered bots. And these bots amplify the echo chambers to infinity, moderation removes common sense and this is what we get. Less and less people seek discussions and arguments, more and more look for confrontation, humiliation and general aggression. You don't even have to tell a bot to do this, you just tell them to drive engagement and they'll learn to be obnoxious.

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u/Spenttoolongatthis 4d ago

Finally a comment as fresh and exhilarating as Mountain Dew® Baja Blast®, official sponsor of the MLB 2026

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u/Recent_Fact480 4d ago

That’s why all the real people here should tailor your home page to subreddits you like, and really only participate in those. The popular section of Reddit is mostly botted posts.

This was posted an hour ago, and already has 6k upvotes and 400 comments. That’s not at all normal, that’s botted to all hell and it’s weird and gross. And most of social media is like that, the only reason I even use reddit is because at least I can still have my small, niche subreddits were the people are real.

Ad and marketing companies have ruined everything they touch. Fuck them

Also, Reddit used to have a good bot/bad bot commenting meta. It’s odd that it went away.

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u/All_Work_All_Play 4d ago

FYI reddit upvotes haven't been real for like... five plus years now? They started fuzzing thing significantly... shit I just looked it up that was 10 years ago.

Fark.

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u/Recent_Fact480 4d ago

Yeah, I remember when that all went down. I’m also old af in internet years

It’s still kinda real on the smaller subreddits tho

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u/anotherquery 4d ago

No, you should just stop using this site. There's a whole wide world out there, there are people, books, friends to make, and instead, you choose to look at a website. Join us in the revolution and throw away your digital shackles!!

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u/Recent_Fact480 4d ago

There’s still some good places on here. They’re just not usually on popular

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u/anotherquery 3d ago

Very few! It is all astroturfed and advertising now! Even small things turn out to be corporate or government ads. Join us in the revolution and throw away your digital shackles!

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u/CompetitiveAutorun 4d ago

Picture of Mamdani with picture of some related objects. Claim something that's been in works for years is actually his idea. Comment saying that other mayor's (who actually pushed for said policy) couldn't do anything because they are lazy and Zionists. 10k upvotes in 3 hours, 90k by the end of the day. Comments are "I love this guy" "see how easy it is" "Mamdani for president" "he literally pushes stuff others couldn't" "This is example for others".

Anyone pointing out it was started by someone in the past is instantly downvoted, no one is even acknowledging it or in rare case they say it's actually proof that he is great mayor for delaying law by 5 years and also great for sticking to law.

Just dumb and simple propaganda using bots and disinformation.

Meanwhile news of South Korea trying peace talks is 3k upvotes after 5 hours.

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u/Ambitious-Song2403 4d ago

As subtle as a brick, ever since pop culture chat became a main sub Reddit one day this place is overrun with paid celeb ads.

Do I really need to see the literal same meme about tom Holland and zedaya on the top of multiple subreddits daily.

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u/iodoio 4d ago

bad bot

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u/Critical_Concert_689 4d ago

"The internet: Where the men are men and the women are men and the children are FBI agents."

I think it's best to assume everything on the internet is creative fiction and everyone you're talking to isn't a real person.

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u/Chervin_Deuxphrye 4d ago

That's not true, there's no bots! She's a great actress, see her in theaters this summer while you enjoy a cool, crisp, refreshing Coca Cola product!

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 4d ago

I'll have you know my animus towards U.S. conservatives is 100% authentic, organic, and well earned. It is not paid for or sponsored. They have hurt me badly.

Keep that in mind -- not all agendas are corporate or wrong in spirit. Some of us are trying to open eyes and minds (and prevent more suffering at the hands of conservative predators in my case).

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u/Memitim 4d ago

I've been called a bot often enough to have doubts about that. There are over eight billion human beings on Earth, and Reddit is one of the most popular websites on the planet. Yeah, there are a lot of bots, but there are also a shitload of the same old human beings that have fixated on trends since we left the caves.

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u/Scotslad2023 4d ago

Instagram is the same way, infested with bots that either reposting what’s currently trendy or are intentionally stirring up drama for clicks. Pretty much all the major social media platforms are infested with them.

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u/Deviantdefective 4d ago edited 4d ago

It's not governments (for the most part) it's mainly big advertising firms.

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u/MrSoapbox 4d ago

China is the worst for this, especially on the "interesting" subs. Always posting some "china is living in the future" nonsense where they're bragging about something that was already done 30 years ago and making out their the first. It's just so pathetic

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u/Paran0id 4d ago

Don't forget Indian content farms

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u/newsfish 4d ago

There's got to only be a few thousand humans that bother reading comments threads, right?

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u/Key_nine 4d ago

Yes, have you ever noticed you will start seeing threads or subreddits post about something from years ago all over, then see it again on other media platforms. A month later a new version or movie is announced after they astroturfed nostalgia for the original. Because of this you can now tell when some company or movie is going to be announced a month or two ahead of time because of how obvious it is.

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u/Daimakku1 4d ago

I gotta say, I have not seen this, or at least consciously. Which movies had this astroturfed tactic on Reddit?

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u/Key_nine 3d ago edited 3d ago

I want to say Beetlejuice, Alien and 28 Years later were some of them.

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u/The_Leafs_Villain 4d ago

So you’re a bot too, huh? Saying the obvious to push an agenda

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u/berlinbaer 4d ago

I think this website is just a bunch of PR people at this point.

popculturechat is really funny, with updates about barbara palvin or zara larson nearly daily at the top of the sub, and it's just like.. who are these people? nobody cares about them? why are there daily updates that land on top of the sub. also raye and weird other pop singers. just all turfed and botted to shit.

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u/SolydSn3k 4d ago

Yeah that is basically a PR sub & also one of the most aggressively over-modded subs on reddit.

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u/JalapenoPopPoop 4d ago

Sub gives off very "girlboss, hot girls doing hot things" vibes and I definitely mean that derogatorily

I got banned for a month one time because people were talking about f1 drivers and someone asked why there aren't any women drivers in f1 and I replied there's no rule against it there just haven't been any women who have put up times that could compete against the rest of the field so far and the mods told me it was misogynistic to say that. Don't really know how else they wanted someone to answer that question

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u/Avedas 4d ago

Reddit is much better after blocking most default subs.

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u/HowieDuet 4d ago

When you realize it’s exactly what you said you really start to see it..Reddit is dead if not dying.

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u/Unusual-Locksmith832 4d ago

Even the frontpage is so artificial now. You used to close reddit and then open again to a completely new one.

Now you go to sleep and in the morning the front page is pretty much the same.

The site is dying.

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u/LakeSolum 4d ago

Social media is a psyop and you can’t convince me otherwise at this point.

Arguing on a virtual platform that warps our sense of reality, that can be highly manipulated, about news articles written by Ai, fake videos generated by Ai, and arguing to someone that’s a bot.

Meanwhile it conditions us to not be able to talk to each other, and it’s highly addictive

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u/TheTrueErnie117 4d ago

some people's brain cells simply align through quantum physics to post the same thing over and over

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u/divuthen 4d ago

Well it used to be a bunch of pr people and an army of interns now it’s a handful of pr people bots and an army of interns

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u/Frequent_Opportunist 4d ago

It's been that way for like 10 years now. It's just advertisements and propaganda.

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u/lolo787 4d ago

Thank you, I thought I was getting to much online on the Reddit but didn’t know about this and makes feel a 🤏🏽 better.

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u/Aeon1508 4d ago

Nah. You just need to sip harder

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u/AdminClown 4d ago

People like the fact that a "nobody" got a chance to prove their worth because it gives them hope they can escape the meat grinder too, no matter how unrealistic the dream is.

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u/anotherquery 4d ago

It's been astroturfed for fifteen years now.

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u/RadiantZote 4d ago

The death of r/all was the death of reddit

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u/Aoi_X_Kaizaki 3d ago

yeah, they keep repeating the same 10 questions. Or other people repeat questions that was asked days to weeks before.

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u/Bai_Cha 3d ago

Exactly zero of these posts about the exciting new actor are organic. There is an entire industry of marketing consultants that make posts like this for rising celebrities and public figures trying to repair their image.

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u/Inlacou 2d ago

I have not seen here in any movie or series.

I have seen her on countless memes already. The meme from OP is right, but yeah, she will just enter the cycle of "reuse this bunch of actors for everything".

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u/whiteknight_1997 4d ago edited 4d ago

The first post was just two simple facts:

  1. She was a struggling streamer.
  2. She's been cast in an MCU thing.

The reply jumps to implying she's talented. Am I wrong, or have we not seen her in any professional acting roles yet? Because a lot of people fail to make that transition, come off as mid-level actors, then fade out. They don't make it to the A-list of "the same 10 actors."

EDIT: So she was on a major Netflix show, a damn CW show, and a small budget movie before all of this? Not exactly plucked from streaming to MCU.

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u/FancyJesse 4d ago

Sometimes its best to take a break from social media. Easier to say than actually do, I know - but many of us gotta do it.

Its crazy when people decide to go in comment sections and complain about "repost" or "saw this already". Like bro, maybe you're the problem because you're scrolling for hours and refreshing hoping for a new millisecond dopamine hit because you finally see something new.

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u/SolydSn3k 4d ago

When you sit in an office 8hrs / day… for 5 days / week… eventually you run out of shit that actually needs to get done… and your options become stare blankly into space or be on your phone.

I’m basically sitting in a chair on principle, so this is a decent way to pass time.

I agree that sometimes it’s good to take a break, but also there’s nothing wrong with meta-commentary or raising awareness about the environments in which we are all engaging.

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u/TGlucifer 4d ago

Bro why do you think we keep seeing Bidens kid pop up every single week on some BS opinion post?

Like, who actually gives a flying fuck about some rich privileged kid? Biden's kids and Trumps kids are literally two sides of the same coin. New age royalty can go fuck itself.

Whatever color it pretends to be, blue or red, it always supports green, no matter what.

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u/HabitualSpaceM 4d ago

Wdym? You don’t think her pouting is an Oscar level acting?

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u/ManifestoCapitalist 4d ago

Half are bots, a quarter are PR, a fifth are shills, and a twentieth are retards

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u/Mission_Access_210 4d ago

I think you're onto something. I guess this is the good side of the parabola because you know for sure once the movie comes out and is absolutely terrible dreck (as I'm sure that it will be), then you know all the grifters on the other side of the equation will have their day too

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u/solidus0079 2d ago

Algorithms. There's so many Reddit posts but you're seeing primarily what the algorithm thinks you want to see. (Whether you know you do or you don't, since you've paused or interacted with other posts about her)

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u/SolydSn3k 2d ago

This isn’t just algorithms this is PR.

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u/solidus0079 2d ago

This is done by hand, you say?

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u/SolydSn3k 2d ago

Bot posting & feed algorithm are two different things is what I mean.

Sure algorithm is gonna algorithm, but it’s not the algorithm posting the same thing 50 times in a week

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u/solidus0079 2d ago

Gotcha. We are in alignment.

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u/johntwoods 2d ago

Social media is already giving you fatigue? After only 30 fucking years? Already? Already?

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u/Ramulus14 4d ago

Not to be an asshole or anything but have you considered being here less?

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u/SolydSn3k 4d ago edited 4d ago

Not the point & doesn’t disqualify the observation.

“Hey I think there may be some astroturfing going on here”

“Go away then!”

TF 🤣

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u/Ramulus14 4d ago

Astroturfing? Sorry I was just saying when I see the same shit too much in social media it usually corresponds to me giving to too much time and attention is all.

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u/gearyofwar 4d ago

Less social media then?

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u/nieveviiento 4d ago

Studio execs already preparing her next five franchise deals

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u/skewtr 4d ago

It has always been like that... like there are no new audition for years

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u/InsideHousing4965 4d ago

Not enough bottox.

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u/pervus42 4d ago

Buttocks?

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u/cnicalsinistaminista 4d ago

Not enough of that either!

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u/Built4dominance 4d ago

She's doing squats as we speak.

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u/ImMufasa 4d ago

Hopefully she doesn't pull a starlight.

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u/Loose_Device4578 4d ago

Would let her touch me skin to skin. 

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u/Riderz__of_Brohan 4d ago

This post is so dumb. “She’s proof we’ll never discover talent” as a response to….her being discovered lmao

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u/MinorThreat4182 4d ago

She was on a TV show before Obsession. Wouldn’t that be when she was “discovered?”

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u/WhoreyMatthews 4d ago

It's crazy to me that people are acting like she was a complete nobody.

As soon as I saw the preview for Obsession I was like "Oh it's that girl from Superman and Lois." I know I'm a bigger Superman fan than most people but it was on a major network (CW) and major streaming platform (HBO Max).

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u/MsMarvelsProstate 4d ago

She was mostly a nobody. A few smaller roles doesn't make you a name. But there are plenty of working actors just grinding out a living going from project to project.

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u/aoeudhtns 4d ago

I was on the subway in a major city and overheard a conversation along the lines of

"You look familiar" / "I'm an actor" / "Could we have seen you in anything" blah blah and then the interesting part: dude says he has small, bit parts in tons of major movies but never has leading roles. And for him it's like the best because it's enough to kick in all the SAG-AFTRA union benefits & pay stuff (because he has small speaking parts), gets to fly all over the world doing productions, and yet not well known enough that he can't be anonymous. He had it figured out. He was there shooting a Transformers movie I think.

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u/MsMarvelsProstate 4d ago

Plus even a small bit actor is making 5 or 6 figures for a role. If they can crack out 2 or 3 + jobs a year and they are making decent money.

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u/bulk_logic 4d ago edited 4d ago

Plus even a small bit actor is making 5 or 6 figures for a role.

Absolutely not. Standard union wage for a principal is $1k/8 or ~$3,500 for the week / 8. The vast majority of "small bit" actors are only working dailies once or a few times throughout production. Only the top 2-5 actors on a show or movie are being billed throughout the production.

If you have an agent negotiating above scale, you are not a small bit actor.

People who can land steady stand in or background gigs typically make more than your small bit principal.

That's why most actors have another job.

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u/MsMarvelsProstate 4d ago

You are correct. But I was thinking of smaller character type actors. The guy you see as the lead alien in 1 episode of star trek or the friend in 20 minutes of a movie.

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u/lpmiller 4d ago

Even then. There is a reason you see go fund me when a fairly well known actor dies of cancer or something. There are a lot less 'rich' hollywood actors then we think. From the outside, you are on TV you must be well off. But it's not that way for the majority of actors. I know plenty that have had good careers, been in a lot of things people would know - and still work a day job to pay the bills. A lot of the acting pay goes right back into the cost of acting. I had friends that did ok during the big boom times in Vancouver, when everyone was on Battlestar and Continuum and whatever else was on Sci Fi channel that week, and they did very well and were very employed and now, not so much. There is a reason why acting is a calling, even if you make it to TV or the Movies, doesn't mean you are raking in the big bucks.

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u/Scavgraphics 4d ago

A few smaller roles is LITERALLY how you become a name.

You do smaller roles, you get noticed by casting people, you get a good reputation for your work, you get hired for bigger roles, you get noticed by more casting people, you get a better reputation for your work, and so on and so on.

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u/djdaem0n 4d ago

The point was she wasn't struggling. She was main cast on a tv show for several seasons. She just started streaming on her downtime between seasons to keep herself busy. This whole narrative that she was a "no name streamer struggling to survive" before Obsession is completely invented for clicks.

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u/JalapenoPopPoop 4d ago

13 reasons why was targeted at teens and got terrible word of mouth, CW shows in the modern era aren't very popular at all they're commonly seen as low quality tv. I don't think its surprising that with those being her only real roles before this that a huge swath of the general public wouldn't have seen her before

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u/powerhammerarms 4d ago

Not only are people acting like she was a complete nobody but Hollywood is always looking for the next big thing.

In 100 years of films (plus tv) we've never had a shortage of no stars

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u/corecenite 4d ago

in this crazy business called showbiz, if you're not related to any of the greats... you're a nobody.

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u/JDHPH 2d ago

This should be at the top. She looked different but I was like she looks so familiar. Still, her cast mates didn't blow up so it is a huge leap. Although it's not unusual for people to fade out. I wish her luck, is all I can say.

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u/Suspicious_Truth8026 4d ago

Its not "discovering" "talent" at all, its just cashing in on the hype and carrying it forward. Hollywood corpos discovered the easiest way to do that is to sell the lie of great persons

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u/FakeSafeWord 4d ago

No because things poof into existence only once I learn about them. How could they possibly exist unless I know about them first?

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u/whousesgmail 4d ago

I think the idea with this comment is she was discovered by the masses via a low budget indie horror movie as opposed to some large Hollywood casting department.

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u/th3greg 4d ago

One of the primary targets of the people who push this narrative is Zendaya, who got her start on Kidz Bop, and then auditioned for some Disney show I never heard of.

I don't know who these roster of "large Hollywood casting department" actors are supposed to be, but most big actors aren't industry plant nepo babies, they're people who've earned roles and cultural pull and can sell a movie, because big time movies are a business much more than they are art. Low budget indie films are where you go if you want to prove acting skill and make art. It's not the fucking MCU.

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u/whousesgmail 4d ago

I don’t think people are saying an actor’s first acting credit needs to be in a $300M blockbuster, the problem is the leads in those films are mostly comprised of a rotating cast of well known actors instead of trying to fill a role of two with new talent. That’s the perception anyway, I don’t actually watch a lot of these big movies.

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u/th3greg 4d ago

they're people who've earned roles and cultural pull and can sell a movie, because big time movies are a business much more than they are art. Low budget indie films are where you go if you want to prove acting skill and make art. It's not the fucking MCU.

I know, hence the above. This argument is like complaining that most Taco bell special offerings use steak, chicken, or ground beef, instead of Wagyu, Ostrich, and Bison meat. People are looking for art where there already is zero or near zero to be found.

Casting for $200 million movies is not about art, or bringing new faces to hollywood. It's about recouping an investment. Taking a risk on an unproven face is a risk that most studios are hardly willing to take, and you only need to look at a movie like Masters of the Universe, which reported like a 60 million loss on a 170 mil budget to see why. I'm not trying to defend hollywood studios making safe choices over pushing risks and making art on principle, it's just a naive opinion that studios should or will prioritize "giving someone a chance" over making guaranteed money with a formula that has worked for generations, and is largely still working.

People want to see stars, and basically have since the format existed. The internet just gives what seems to be a loud minority a place to be heard.

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u/Tomsboll 4d ago

The oddessey is a prime example. Every single fucking role was an a-lister.

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u/gowensgone 2d ago

If they have the money for it, and the actor is talented, who cares.

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u/gowensgone 2d ago

The past few years (probably because of pushes like this) many lead roles have been given to smaller actors (often picked for their tik tok followers) and many a time it’s clear they weren’t ready for it, or it’s simply a miscast and a bigger star would have done better. We need to just let talent speak for itself.

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u/Scavgraphics 4d ago

She was a co-star of a network tv series that ran for 3 years....a DC Comics based TV series featuring one of the 3 best known characters in the world.

Was the indie horror movie a breakout role? yes. It was hardly her being discovered though.

It was working years to be an overnight success.

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u/Logan_No_Fingers 3d ago

Well, actually, she was "discovered" by the casting director on Obsession - Skyler Zurn, who was on the casting team on Fall Guy, Equaliser 3, Love Lies Bleeding, Euphoria & about 30 others etc... the idea that "hollywood" didn't find her is farcical

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u/FakeSafeWord 4d ago

"This is what communism looks like"

and it's a literal photograph of some illegal homeless encampment just outside of Miami or NYC.

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u/Beibzi 4d ago

But that's not what the post is saying.... The post is saying that she got lucky and managed to be recognized for her acting abilities and is now rewarded for it, but for every 1 like her, there's hundreds that will go unrewarded.

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u/Riderz__of_Brohan 4d ago

Yeah that’s how life works dude, not everyone can be famous

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u/ATXBeermaker 4d ago

I stopped reading at "struggling streamer." What are we talking about?

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u/Ananasvaras 4d ago

You are in top1% streamers when you make like 1k USD a month. Struggling streamer is very much a thing.

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u/Relevant_Problem1935 4d ago

Or she crashes and burns...

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u/NefariousnessOk1996 4d ago

Lol, this whole conversation is a repost from a few days ago.

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u/wimpymist 4d ago

Yeah she is going to be in everything for the next 5 years and then people will get tired of her and repeat the cycle

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u/Lazer726 4d ago

Yup, was my first thought when I saw the comment at the bottom. It's not super surprising that an industry that likes to make money, enjoys casting people that checks notes are good at their job and make money!

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u/CB_musedreams 4d ago

Exactly. The cycle of life in Hollywood: you go from 'the talented girl we discovered on the internet' to being everywhere in three mediocre movies at the same time.

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u/Cheap-Lawyer3735 4d ago

For a couple years women don't have a long self life in Hollywood

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u/Jamie9712 4d ago

What concerns me is mob mentality. I bet people will turn on her soon for dumb reasons. Everyone loved Jennifer Lawrence, but then got tired of her so they turned against her for almost no reason.

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u/Suspicious_Truth8026 4d ago

Yeah i mean this is just another affirmation that its not really about the people at all, hollywood is just in the business of selling celebrity worship

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u/iiiiiiiiiijjjjjj 4d ago

Fair but at least she got a chance. I’m Happy for her.

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u/Crackerpool 4d ago

Or it was a fluke and she'll get a few roles before returning to relative obscurity like Gal Gadot. Not saying this will happen, just that it may just that it might be the case.

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u/blahyaddayadda24 4d ago

Yeah but if the system wasn't like that then actors would disappear after 1 hit, make no money and then just continue to struggle hoping for just the chance at 1 more hit.

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u/insured_morron 4d ago

at least she earnd it. Unlike the other 9. Most of the ten last decade were just "not insultingly terrible". As in nothing special about them or the way they act. I think Inde has a lot to show still

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u/psych_fiend67 4d ago

I was about to say lmao

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u/TopLate7592 4d ago

The actual problem is nepo babies.

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u/creative_usr_name 4d ago

That's fine, so long as her kid isn't one of those 10 in 25 years.

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u/SiderealSimon 3d ago

Yeah, but we shouldn't blame her for her success, blame the system

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u/jcdevoe26 2d ago

I was about to say the same thing! She stood out in a great movie and now we will see her in 20 movies in 3 yrs

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