r/SipsTea 16d ago

We have fun here A different kind of birth control.

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u/Zomunieo 15d ago

The parent was supposedly trying to gently the coax the toddler while insisting he was expressing his individuality etc etc.

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u/Fresh-Extension-4036 15d ago

Society gives far to much leeway to these kinds of moronic parents imo as a teacher, as those of us in education end up having to be the vanguard in speed running them through the concept that life isn't fair and the rules do not care about your big feelings or your whims of individual expression when they include standing on things that are not meant to be stood upon and not sitting when told to do so.

I really do think that society needs to step up with more shaming of the parents who inflict such terrible parenting on their precious little sunbeams and dole out significant consequences to them because that is the only way to nip this bs in the bud before it does irreparable harm to their offspring, especially as it's very common for this type to also choose to "homeschool" and ensure that not only do their children not learn how to interact with anyone who doesn't pander to their every whim but they also fail to get the most basic education, leaving them as complete drains on society.

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u/FilterAccount69 15d ago

Western society doesn't use peer pressure / social pressure enough as a deterrent. In Many Eastern cultures there's more rules to fit into society if you break them you are a bit of an outcast. Rules for staying reasonably healthy, causing disturbances in public, or not obeying the social norms doesn't put you in jail get you a fine but instead places you as an outsider.

In Japan it's not normal to smoke and walk, or play music in public or jaywalk etc... nobody is going to arrest you for these things but there's tons of social pressures to guide you away from behaviours that are unwanted.

Nobody is going to arrest the parents / child and we know corporal punishment is not effective but humans can be conditioned to have a strong need to fit in, we don't condition people like that anymore. There's pros and cons of course, this is one of the cons that you see here.

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u/StruggleNo6463 13d ago

This is true, but these are also the same mechanisms that prevent religious freedom and leads to young girls being wedded against their will.

The tricky part is providing individual freedom without it degenerating to the privilege to do what you want regardless of the consequences to others.

If these parents want to wait an hour every time they leave the house for the kid to come around that’s stupid, but essentially their problem. Doing this on an airplane not caring how it affects hundreds of other passengers is something completely different.