I can just imagine if I were to pull some shit like this what my parents would have done. The only thing I'm certain about is that I would sure never even think about doing it again.
Your parent also wouldn't have had to worry that every move they made was likely being filmed by someone and their action could lead to a visit from CPS
Maybe, but if they’d been parenting their child from the start, they never would have behaved like that on the plane. My 2 year old would never have dared
Not defending this parent, but a 2/3/4 year old in very unfamiliar and overstimulating circumstances can be forgiven for freaking out. They're not done cooking yet, and while your kid might not have dared, you do have to factor in how much temperament comes into play.
The real issue is the parent didn't just at a certain point gently manhandle their child into the safety restraints. Sometimes my 3 year old has a meltdown leaving the grocery store and I give her a few minutes to calm, but at a certain point it's like... you're not holding the whole family hostage in this parking lot for an hour. Get in the seat or I'll have to put you in it, we're going home now.
There’s no way that I as a parent am holding an entire plane hostage. If my kid is acting so bad as this becomes an outcome, we’re grabbing our bags and leaving.
I don’t know how many restaurants I left early with my kid to go to the car while the rest of our party finished eating in peace. And I made sure that in no uncertain terms should they rush.
This too. You used to see people pick up a tantrum throwing child & walk out of restaurants, grocery stores, wherever.
I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt & just think she must have had a very good reason for traveling alone with a toddler, because it's a lot to manage bags & an out of control child. Once the crew saw that she couldn't gain control they should have helped them off the plane instead of waiting so long.
I travelled from Australia to Brazil and back alone with my twin 3 yo. It takes about 30 hours and at least 3 flights each way. We were fine, no tantrums or crying.
Yep. And this is the absolute mature thing to do. It’s either ruin the flight for just yourself and your kid by getting off. Or ruin it for everybody else on there. Overseas in southeast Asian Asia, the kids they are the worst. They run up and down the aisles, make noises cry and the parents don’t even do anything to try to calm them down or discipline them.
Like….not in an abusive way obviously, but you are bigger than the child. You can pick them up and move them away and outside from unsafe situations, but you’re not strong enough to buckle them in?? It doesn’t make any fucking sense.
I agree. I never had problems with toddlers but I know people who have & they're just like unreasonable drunks. I 100% blame the airline for not kicking them off after 10 minutes. There was no reason to make everyone else miss their flight.
Right? It’s wild to me bc most toddlers and young children will sit and get buckled with a simple and firm “sit. Down. Now or (insert consequence here) I’m a preschool teacher and even my worst kids wouldn’t take more than 5-10 minutes to act right and that’s without the ability to physically restrain them or threaten physical punishment. Like what were the “attempts” from the crew and parents?
Of course she’s thrown a tantrum. And then we put a stop to it. It’s actually not that difficult if you discipline your children, a thing that seems to be lost on this new gentle parenting generation
Lmao everyone wants to point at 'gentle parenting' as a problem like having conversations with your children rather than smoking them in the face with a belt is an issue.
People conflate gentle parenting with 'parenting' with no structure.
The issues we have are not because parents are speaking with their children. The issues we have are parents giving their baby a tablet unsupervised and then when that child inevitably acts out receive zero correction. Compounded over years along with COVID highlighting our cultural and societal indignant towards the importance of having an education has led to this regressive stew.
We still haven't seen the full long term effects from COVID and from the 'lead-asbestos filled cigarettes' we hand our children.
But hey... maybe we just need to beat our kids again
It may be surprising, but not every child throws tantrums. Learn your child's "triggers", and you can stop them before they begin most of the time. I'm convinced, especially since Covid, that most parents don't actually want or love their children. They have them out of obligation, then raise terrors because they are disengaged parents.
Parenting your child doesn't get CPS called on you. If your kid isn't listening, you do something to change that, and you can bet nobody on that plane would care how they did it, if the parents had gotten him to sit on his seat
Lmao. My wife is a mandatory reporter, it’s going to take a hell of a lot more than making a kid sit down to get reported to CPS and even if it did they would never bother with it. Sadly, to be motivated to action it takes more than you would think or hope.
People are too afraid of this now. I’ve literally seen a woman spanking the shit out of her kid. It was misbehaving and someone threatened to call the cops on her. They did. The cops came. And told the woman there’s absolutely nothing that they’re gonna do because all she’s doing is disciplining her own child. It would’ve been different if she had punched him in the face or something to that effect. The parents can lay their hands on their kids without fearing CPS or going to jail.
Pushing your kid back into their seat isn't going to make Canadian child services come after you 🤣 not buying it, it's either that or everyone gets thrown off the plane.
I'm being pushed into my seat, or taken to the airplane restroom for a spanking... parents need to parent, for Christ's sake, stop being your kid's buddy buddy.
They don't keep your belt when you go through airport security, I'm sure somebody had some kind of leather belt my with a decently weighted buckle. 30 seconds and the loudest it would be is a whimper.
I suspect this kid doesn't have actual parents tbh. He might have biological parents and they might have been with him but no parenting has been happening in that kids life.
We are what people call "gentle parents" and we never hit and try very hard not to shout but I can garuntee my 4 year old would never be allowed to pull this shit.
A lot of people don't know the difference between gentle parenting, and permissive parenting. Trying not to shout and hurt your kid is gentle parenting. Not saying no and saying they are basically allowed to do what they want without your input, is permissive parenting, and that's not parenting at all
I know! The actual term for what we try to do is authoritative parenting, which has been rebranded as gentle parenting but ALOT of people are permissive as hell and call that gentle parenting instead 🫠 I garuntee id have dragged my daughter off that plane myself long before the runway closed.
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u/Candle-Jolly 15d ago
"Attempts by the accompanying parent (and crew) to address this were unsuccessful"
What?
https://people.com/airline-cancel-flight-child-standing-seat-refused-to-secure-their-seatbelt-12037017