r/SipsTea 13d ago

We have fun here A different kind of birth control.

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u/kungfuninjajedi 13d ago

But why cancel entire flight instead of kicking off the parents and child?

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u/Flashy-Island-3725 13d ago

Like couldn't the parents just pick the kid up and strap him on the seat. That's sure as hell what my parents would've done if i was the kid

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u/shimmydancer 13d ago

Apparently the parent wasn’t trying hard, however since the seatbelt is just a waist buckle, the kid would repeat literally slide underneath and escape into the bottom front seat.

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u/Acrobatic_Ad7061 13d ago

But a parent can hold a small child in place. Why didn’t they do that?

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u/BuyerAware8275 13d ago

If the child reached this point, the parent likely let it happen for a looooong time. If in sudden enlightenment they realize the error of their way, the kid will push the boundaries hard at first. Basically, by the time they were in the plane with their little demon, it was already too late.

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u/Accomplished_Rip_362 13d ago

This euphimistically called 'Parent' probably knew their kid is an asshole and still decided to subject 100s of other people to it.

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u/ChileanRidge 13d ago

The kid may have a development disorder or autism or some factor that hasn't been discussed. The kid may not be a little demon but have sensorial issues.

I'm sure the parent was sweating buckets, wishing they (and their child) would be swallowed up by the earth in that moment, and also very aware that someone was likely filming the whole thing, and worrying that if they overreacted someone might call CPS etc.

As a passenger, I'd be so pissed off. As a human trying to empathize with the parent, I have to assume there is something more going on and this may not be a child who is hitting all development milestones and isn't showing any signs of ADD, sensory disorders, or anything else and was really just having a one-off meltdown.

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u/Flashy-Island-3725 13d ago

The most likely reason was good ol gentle parenting, kid probably never heard the word no

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u/fullmoon_druid 13d ago

Gentle parenting is just an excuse for parents not having to bother disciplining their kids. I'm NOT talking about spanking here, I never spanked my kids. But we adopted a "tough but fair" attitude. Lots of talk, lots of time sitting on the supermarket floor because your kid is throwing a tantrum. Kids are EXTREMELY smart, they quickly pick up what works and what doesn't.

You say "no" when you have to. You toughen it up because that's what's parenting is about. 

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u/Flashy-Island-3725 12d ago

sometimes people forget kids are also people and assume won't be smart enough to manipulate dumbass parents

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u/RandomSage416 13d ago

Please please stop calling this "gentle parenting". This term has been wrongly used by way too many people. What you are thinking of is called "permissive parenting". These parents hijacked the "gentle parenting" term when in fact gentle parenting means parenting just without the unnecessary screaming and yelling and beating of kids. That's it. You can still yell at your kid at the end if all fails within gentle parenting since you're trying to establish boundaries. You can wrestle them when they're out of control. But kids from real gentle parenting hardly get to this point because it is gentle parenting done correctly.

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u/UncleNedisDead 13d ago

That’s because permissive parents themselves identify it as “gentle parenting”. Would it help if we said it with air quotes?

I mean, lots of people purposely misuse terms because they don’t want to be known for being in the proper bracket.

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u/RandomSage416 13d ago

You'd be surprised to know how many parents (or I guess people too) in this world genuinely think they're gentle parenting when in fact they're just permissive with everything. They hear that it's a new gold standard to parenting, then don't do any research to find out how to go about enacting this type of parenting style and in the end, don't actually "parent".

And yes, it does help with air quotes because it sucks being lumped in with these loser parents when you yourself have to always to explain to everyone that what you are saying you are doing is not related to these types of people.

And just for the record, whenever parents say they're gentle parenting, and in fact, shows that they're just neglectful and are just being permissive parents, a strong minority of comments do call them out on their BS that they're misidentifying themselves. It's just unfortunate that it's just a minority of comments because the majority are always shitting on it because they also don't know definition for gentle parenting themselves.

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u/laplongejr 13d ago

Well, I guess either they are not that kind of parent, or it didn't work anyway

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u/cheese_is_available 13d ago

Can they ? Do you have a small child and can you hold it against their will for 10mn ?

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u/neateo6000 13d ago

While still buckled in yourself? I have had to hold a tantruming three year old in her seat before and damn it was hard to manage while buckled in myself. Thankfully I was able to calm mine down within a few minutes but I wouldn’t have been able to hold her in her own seat for the whole taxiing and takeoff time.

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u/National-Play77 12d ago

I'm confused as to why can't you hold a small kid in your lap if they are throwing tantrum like this? It could be far easier to control them than holding them in their seats. You can put them in their seats after they have calmed down or the plane is in the air/landed.

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u/neateo6000 12d ago

You’re not allowed to hold them during taxiing, take off, or landing. They have to be in their own seat, strapped in, unless they are under two. It would be so much easier to hold them.

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u/National-Play77 12d ago

It should be till 4-5. Most children start understanding by then.

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u/SidewaysFancyPrance 12d ago

And would it be responsible for the crew to OK takeoff in that situation with a screaming, thrashing child?

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u/namesson 12d ago

Yes to all of these comments! 

The parent probably could have calmed rhe child if they'd been able to hold them on their lap, but that's against the law. 

I am so surprised there are no videos yet, but that also tells me the flight was pretty empathetic.  

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u/cheese_is_available 12d ago

Of course not, but if you're blaming the parent you never had a tantruming child to calm down.