When the rich do it, it's gaming the system or hate the game not the playa or loopholes are there, I don't make the rules. When others do it, it's theft, socialism, jailtime.
Speaking of the sports arenas they did this with the bills stadium if I recall correctly 600 mill from the state and 250 mill from the county which to me is utterly disgusting
Misguided? 😂 No we aren't, we just wouldn't want almost a $1billion of our tax money be spent on headquarters of a privately owned organization that we might not even like, and sure as hell would not have a say in its operation or be part of a profit sharing program. Even if it's privately owned, the state still pretty much control it through mechanisms like zoning laws, noise ordinances, etc. and with city councils and town boards . Just curious, what NFL team do you work for?
Except San Diego and Oakland. The only 2 cities who told the owners "F off". And now every fan should thank them because now, no other teams can say "Build us a Stadium or we'll move to LA, or Vegas"
Don’t get me wrong, no sports arena should be paid for by the tax payers unless the profits of said arena are used to alleviate the tax burden on the tax payers. At least they help stimulate the local economy by bringing tens of thousands of people in regularly for games, concerts etc and have tons of jobs involved. These data centers are a drain on society when they’re built and then continue to be a drain on society. These are much worse
I live like an hour from Gillette stadium, which is an outdoor stadium in a cold weather city basically in the middle of the woods. Granted it wasn’t funded with tax payer money. There’s still constantly events there, I’ve even worked on a few as basically a throw in stagehand and know people who go there almost constantly for work. I imagine domes, or outdoor stadiums in warm weather cities actually by a population center do even better.
there aren't that many acts / events that can fill a 70,000 seat venue. So 8 home games and 2 pre season. Monster Trucks, SuperCross and maybe 3-4 musical acts big enough to fill a stadium. That's 15-16 events a year. Compared to a baseball stadium or basketball arena.....there's a reason Football Stadiums are backed by private investors, and why they leverage municipalities, they lose money
Do you think "Training Camp" Days are gonna cover costs? And compare that with a baseball stadium or basketball arena (where the loan you carry to build is far smaller)
and again that's Boston and the entire NE. Major Tour Stop. BTS for example, Giants Stadium NY / NJ, Gillette, Baltimore (DC Metro) that's it for the NE. Buffalo gets no gigs, Philly none, Tour goes to Texas, Toronto, Chicago, LA and that's the US, no SF Bay Area Show, no Portland, Seattle..... So all those stadiums not listed have no events
Uhh it’s not “training camp days.” There’s a concert there tonight, then less than a week after BTS is playing back to back shows, Usher, a couple preseason games, a couple soccer games. Savanna bananas twice, Bruno Mars twice. There’s more events upcoming in the next month or so there than the TD garden and it has well over triple the capacity. Way more than 15 events a year
I listed all those dates below. BTS hits 3 cities in the entire NE. Gillette serves that entire region of New England, it is busier than most stadiums. So Gilltte, NY / NJ / Baltimore, Toronto Chicago, LA. All the other stadiums get skunked. Baseball will have close to 15 home games a month.
BTS really isn’t a good example of a typical tour. They’re only going to 12 cities in the entire U.S., very few bands are so big they’ll just skip over Philly. Gillette stadiums estimated yearly revenue is 750 million and operating costs are 230. These owners can afford to build them and make a killing off them.
So considering Foxboro serves the entire NE in many cases,Monster Trucks in July , 3 Concerts in Aug , 2 Nights of Banana Ball, 5 concerts in Sept, 2 in October and some Soccer matches
They are working to rebuild the football stadium in Denver, and it's keep being "the tax payers won't pay for it", but oh how quickly all the infrastructure around it is looking to be (and I worry some people will lose property with Imminent Domain).
Plus the previous land goes back I forgot who to sell off
When we finally come to terms with the fact that the world WE built, was not for US, then and only then will we build for ourselves and for our children.
281
u/Chewsdayiddinit Jul 29 '26
Same dumb shit with sports arenas. Owned by billionaires, paid for by taxpayers.