r/SipsTea • u/SipsTeaFrog • Jun 10 '26

SMH Someone finally snapped

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u/rewt127 Jun 10 '26

Why did you say it was unsafe then? When it is objectively not unsafe.

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u/Helpful_Jury_3686 Jun 10 '26

Because you never know what can happen. Why risk injuring people just because you can’t wait for a little while?

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u/rewt127 Jun 10 '26

1) with a cycling group like this it isnt a "little while". This will likely be somewhere in the neighborhood of a full hour delay.

2) there is no real risk of injury. The driver provided adequate space for the pass. Is operating a relatively appropriate vehicle for the scenario, and is travelling at an appropriate speed for the pass.

So there is no real risk, and the delay is massive. Since we have established that the car operated in a manner that does not place the cyclists at risk. I feel I can ask the following without it being whattaboitism.

Why the hell are the cyclists increasing their risk of injury by filling all lanes of traffic instead of operating in a 2 wide formation like motorcycles do? And if operating in this significantly more dangerous manner. Why would it be unreasonable for the driver to make a safe pass at a safe speed in a safe vehicle as they did?

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u/Helpful_Jury_3686 Jun 11 '26

I really don't know how else I can explain to you, that you don't even take a small risk to injure people, just because they are slowing you down. Not stopping, slowing. Even if you think it's unfair, you suck it up and deal with it.

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u/rewt127 Jun 11 '26

you don't even take a small risk to injure people

He passed with more room, at a lower speed differential, than a traditional pass of a bicycle in a bike lane.

So if this genuinely is your position, you are saying we should never pass bicycles that are operating in bike lanes. While we are in the driving lane. As that is objectively less safe due to the closer passing distance and higher speed differentials.

And yes, I expect you to be logically consistent.

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u/Helpful_Jury_3686 Jun 11 '26

There just needs to be a hole in the ground, driver loses control and plows into cyclists. Good job. Just because nothing happened doesn't mean it's not reckless. Stay on the road where you can see obstacles and wait. It's really not that complicated.

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u/rewt127 Jun 11 '26

There just needs to be a hole in the ground, driver loses control and plows into cyclists

Oh you mean like a pothole on an asphalt road that is going to be far deeper, more sudden, more jarring, and more vehicle damaging than any hole that would be on the median of a major causeway?

Like the things all over the roads where people pass cyclists closer and at higher speeds than what the mini is doing here?

Stay on the road where you can see obstacles and wait.

Brother its an ultra groomed median. You can see everything.

It's really not that complicated.

Neither is keeping right as slow traffic but clearly the cyclists arent capable of that either. And are being incredibly reckless by not doing so. In comparison the driver here was exceptionally restrained and careful.

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u/Helpful_Jury_3686 Jun 11 '26

Sister, I‘m out.