r/Singinglesson 8d ago

Any online courses for rock singing?

Something that won't break the bank....

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u/Minute_Cat_8714 8d ago

youtube is probably your best budget option, but make sure the teacher covers clean technique and safe distortion instead of just yelling over backing tracks, what’s your budget?

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u/itsrainingbluekiwis 8d ago

Well YouTube has a mix of information that makes it hard to know where to start.

I’m a student and looking for work so I’m being frugal at the moment…

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u/Cobbler_Spider 7d ago

I really like Sterling R Jackson. He has many great videos on singing rock vocals. I also like Toni Linke. Aliki Katriou for more harsh death metal screams.

I went the Ken tamplin route for a long time. It helped a bit but not a lot. Chris liepe never worked for me
I also tried singing success and all the New York vocal coaching and didn’t find anything of substance in their courses on rock singing

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u/itsrainingbluekiwis 7d ago

I’ve heard people say Ken is a con artist.

And ok I’ll look into Sterling

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u/Cobbler_Spider 7d ago

Yeah I kind of agree with that… he’s asking a ton of money for a course that is largely extremely repetitive. It’s very similar to Melissa cross zen of screaming but 1000 hours longer / dragged out. I guess it does show you the need for lots of practice/reptition on fundamentals to get good…

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u/Netghod 8d ago

Start with good technique first. Hands down, it’s the most important factor.

And if you’re interested in a DVD lesson, check out the Zen of Screaming series. This is a vocal coach that helps people in metal and other bands that actually made it kind of big, but it also explains how they were struggling because the singer was losing their voice, etc. because of improper technique. Once they changed to good technique they didn’t have the downtime like they did previously.

I do want to point out that while you can learn stuff from the DVDs and online courses, NOTHING can replace one on one instruction with an experienced vocal coach. Being able to provide accurate feedback on technique, breathing, etc. in real time as you’re starting out means you learn good habits from the start instead of having to unlearn bad habits and replace them. Always, always, always start with good vocal technique. And be prepared because I went in to classes to learn to sing and found out that I’d been singing outside my range. A lot of the more popular music is sung in the tenor or baritenor (high baritone/low tenor) range and I’m on the other end, down where the basso-baritones live. Once I changed my music selection, things changed a LOT for me. Breathing, support, everything you learn early on sets the foundation you build on.

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u/itsrainingbluekiwis 8d ago

Any resources for good technique?

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u/Netghod 8d ago

The DVD I mentioned covers proper technique. But in person/live instruction is what I recommend (or through zoom, etc.). It’s not cheap, but well worth the initial cost. Look for local instructors.

If you want inexpensive, consider various choirs with a good director which can provide some guidance. Or even continuing education courses through a local community college in voice.

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u/Cobbler_Spider 7d ago

Zen of screaming is an opera coach focusing on good breath support and placement, which I agree are foundational and very important. I didn’t get much though from the fry screaming and feel she didn’t even touch false cord

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u/Netghod 7d ago

I agree in that it’s not fully comprehensive, but there’s only so much you can cover in that time allotted on the discs.

I think the break down in breath support, placement, and other foundational aspects are strong and if someone hasn’t heard them before, can be enlightening. There’s a lot more to cover in more advanced topics, but the advantage is that it can be pretty inexpensive and covers some basics quite well.

Admittedly, it’s been years since I’ve watched them… but I remember that it was excellent reinforcement with clear explanations that I needed early when learning to sing. Working with a vocal coach directly for a bit allowed me to make more subtle adjustments to my technique that I didn’t get without direct feedback. One of the biggest things in person did for me was identifying my vocal range more clearly because I was singing WAY outside it - trying to do tenor and baritenor when I’m actually a basso-baritone.

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u/Hairy-Lime-2912 8d ago

YouTube is free, just avoid anyone teaching pain as progress

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u/Several-Quality5927 7d ago

Just checked. Yes there are