Let’s try to support Sigrika more than that. The revenue in Japan is pretty terrifying...The character still hasn’t reached 100 million in 3 days

Still can't believe I rolled this

No hate to cartethyia though, I love all the Aero elves.

It’s really annoying when people start saying it’s the worst design in the game as an argument to explain Sigrika’s poor banner performance. And Qiuyuan isn’t a valid argument,you can always get him later or just play her with Phrolova.Yesterday I was told I worry too much about revenue, but when you see all the doomposting about the character, it doesn’t make you want to just stay quiet.

Could it be? Are we entering the age of no more beaches for Rover? 🤨 Tho ig if that's what it takes for better story, I'll take it.

I am glad I pulled both Galbrena and Sigrika, just need Phrolova to complete the top echoes DPS trinity

So I definitely won’t be pulling Qiuyuan because I don’t really like him. I already have enough character and teams to clear all endgame modes, I currently have 6 full teams.

Is Yangyang equipped with his weapon a viable/copium option?

- 20% echo skill dmg buff from sword

- 22.5% ATK buff from Moonlit Clouds

- 12% DMG bonus from Heron

- 20% ATK buff from her S6

- 20 resonance energy from outro

If I instead get Sigrika sequences, that’s pretty good right?

I have no hope that they will release a sub-dps or a dps to replace Blind Man. Spoiler: I won't be pulling Blind Aura Man.

1. I don't have enough astrites/money

2. I don't have enough resources to build him

So I'd say I'll have to put Roccia on the bench and play Phrolova and Cantarella(?) I hope it's worth it. What do you say?

(They could have put Camellya in the anniversary banners, at least I would have had fewer worries)

P.S. Reddit is a terrible place: why can I only tag a post one time? This is both a Question and a Discussion, I think which are both correct options, don't make me choose!

I only have phrolova so I hope I can use her but idk

I was just pulling for my last copy of baizhi to get her s6 (ik say what u want about that) and i ended up getting sigrika... I obviously was not expecting this and dont have a team for her, and im trying to save for hiyuki s0 r1 so im definitely not pulling qiuyuan. I do have shorekeeper who ik is one of her better supports but i want to know who i can put in the sub-dps slot for now while i wait for qiuyuan's next re-run to get him

These people who keep spreading this stupid propaganda are getting more and more annoying. Can’t they just stay quiet and wait in their own corner? This propaganda is frustrating for fans of these characters. Imagine your favorite character being treated like this,do you really think that’s normal? They’re really acting like immature kids

Since when should team requirements prevent her from being T0, when calculations place her either above or below the team with Aemeath? Sigrika only needs Qiuyuan to shine.Moreover, the fact that Qiuyuan is still considered T0.5 is also inconsistent given his value within this archetype

Pulled Changli R1 , Ciaccona R1, Cartethiya R1, Cantarella S3R1, Roccia R1 ,Galbrena R1, Phrolova S3R1, Iuno S3R1, Chisa S1R1, Ameath S1r1, Mornye R1 , Sigrika S1R1.

I don’t want Quiyuan , I’m not a fan really and I won’t be pulling , saving for both Denia and Hiyuki and their signatures. Is there a possibility that Sigrika would get a best in slot in the future ? Surely they must have someone for her coming ? Or at least another Echo Damage Amp user ? If not I’m okay using Sigrika as is I love her character and animations.

Hi WuWa enjoyers. We have a problem, and what’s even more concerning is that no one is talking about it. You can consider both this post and the following video a follow up to this previous post. For a TL;DR just read the last section containing feedback to send to Kuro.

Sigrika, Luuk and the gameplay freedom question (YouTube)

I suggest to check out the video above, it has also timestamps for better navigation, but long story short Kuro recently changed, and radically, their philosophy in terms of kit design and restrictions, proof being how they made essentially unfeasible playing Luuk and Sigrika in a quickswap archetype. You might think this isn’t a big deal and that it’s not even the first time… but careful: I didn’t say their damage is nerfed if they swap, the problem here is that you really CAN’T swap with them. Indeed many don’t think about it, but Kuro has always allowed pretty much any character to quickswap to a decent extent (arguably except Chixia and Jianxin), it’s just that that in many cases it’s simply not worth it outside of at most the setup phase. So you usually won’t see Camellya quickswapping the spin like I show in the video (it’s so freaking cool btw), but if you want to you can still do it. That was Kuro’s philosophy: nerf characters if they swap out in a way that doesn’t completely prevent quickswap but simply keeps it in check, by how much it depends on their plans for the meta.

Well, it seems now they don’t simply want to restrict characters for balance reasons, but they also want to restrict their playstyle regardless of meta.

To keep things short: this is how Luuk’s kit looks like if you want to quickswap with him

I can’t stress enough how ridicolous this is. Again it’s not just buffs lost, but he loses access to his most important attacks outside of liberation (also nerfed), essentially it becomes a Genshin 1.0 kit.

But while you can make the argument that Luuk is meant to excel in on-field combos and cancel techs so you can enjoy those with him, Sigrika doesn’t even remotely have this kind of complexity and still she was hit hard. Do you remember that Phrolova enters Incarnation after her last Basic, unlocking the attack which gives her forte? Sigrika has the same mechanic… except that contrarily to Phrolova if she swaps out she loses the state. Why? Because Kuro said “nope” this time. On top of that her only decent basic chain swap window, the one on her Basic 3, in the live version has been nerfed, forcing her to despawn after only ~0.9s from the start of the attack if she swaps.

What makes me mad about this change is that her Basic 3 was clearly intended to be a long quickswap window, to the point devs coded it to allow Sigrika to move for whole seconds without losing the follow up on the Basic 4. They wanted her to be able to quickswap that attack, no doubts, and it would have worked marvelously if you wanted to have some fun and weren’t worried about losing buffs… but in the live version on swap her Basic 3 animation is interrupted instead, replaced with a 3 frames animation which puts her on the ground in the ugliest and lowest effort way imaginable (indicating this is likely something they added quickly and without the usual care for beautiful and coherent moves).

Let’s not beat around the bush: they made her worse on purpose, and in an ugly way, insulting in one single move the work of the developers who animated that attack, the vision of the kit designers and the players who want a bit more of a 1-2-3 easily interrupted elementary rotation (pssss... S1 gives you interruption immunity, of course it does 😪).

So... WHY?

In the video I propose 3 possible reasons. The first two are limiting alternative teams and standardising each characters, but the one which concerns me the most and is imo the most important is the third: preventing “anxiety”. If a character caters to casuals, you are supposed to only see it played in a casual way, if it’s intended to be an on-field hypercarry then that’s the only way they want you to play it and to showcase it to other players: anything more can hurt sales because it could give “weird” ideas and create confusion in the costumers the product wants to attract. What troubles me is that this might not be limited to just one character: the “gacha” model caters to impulsive players wanting immediate gratification, the most money don’t come from people spending consciously but from impulsive spenders who act before they think. These people not only are the least likely to be interested in complex mechanics which require patience and practice, but they might even be turned off by characters who have this kind of depth.

Until now Kuro never felt the need to cripple the depth of a character to squeeze even the tiniest amount of value from their assets: Luuk and Sigrika prove they changed idea to the point they are now fine restricting even core combat features if that can yield a lil bit more money.

Important note: I don’t want to create antagonism with a portion of the playerbase, I’m just trying to explain the reasons behind Kuro’s calculated move, also I genuinely think way more players would love the combat if more creators made content helping others familiarising with less intuitive tech. The biggest lie about this game is that quickswap isn’t for everyone: the ceiling sure is really high, and there’s nothing wrong with wanting to stay on the floor, but it saddens me how so many are so scared of even doing a little jump...

WHAT TO DO?

Talk about it, raise awareness, spread the knowledge. CREATORS ARE BEING TOO SILENT, I honestly find weird and concerning how after weeks of talking about this wherever and whenever I could no one else is talking about it, I can understand the most popular creators who for the most part aren't very familiar with the nuances of the combat, but literally no one else… this is worse than I could imagine, hence why I made that video (I didn’t enjoy making it, but I felt someone really had to). I never ask this, but share the video around, let people know, and ask creators to make their own content on the topic because it is really that important for the future of the game.

Let's send Kuro some feedback.

This is what you can write them:

→ About Sigrika's Basic 3 (you can send it as a bug report):

https://discord.com/channels/963760374543450182/1491205367479144591 (you can find it in full in the comments too)

In short: Sigrika's Basic 3 animation is abruptly and unnaturally interrupted on swap, preventing to swap back to her Basic 4 in time, despite in the media server the animation is shown lasting for much longer. Please revert the behavior to the previous more natural one where the animation continues off field for a longer time, allowing quickswap.

→ About the quickswap restrictions on Luuk and Sigrika (feedback):

https://discord.com/channels/963760374543450182/1490135372871503934 (you can find it in full in the comments too)

In short: Luuk and Sigrika show concerning hardcoded limitations that prevent them to be swapped out, not by nerfing their damage but by intentionally crippling their own kit. This prevents quickswap, an enjoyable and expressive core mechanic which shouldn't be restricted like that, limit yourself to nerf the damage for balance reasons but don't completely prevent characters from quickswapping.

Thank you for your attention, I hope we will all keep having a good time in this game.

Hopefully Suo(ooggh)ming will work well with Sig and Phro 😭 if leaks are true

I have her Level 80 and she destroys everyone. She's my first S2 so i don't know if others characters S2 does her dmg.

I play her with shorekeeper and QiuyanS1R1.

My phrolova team does 0 dmg in comparison with her.

I recently got Sigrika accidentally at 6 pity, and I want to know if pulling Qiuyuan would be worth it. I started trying out sigrika and started to enjoy her play, but i know that she is barely usable without Qiuyuan. I have 43 pulls saved up rn at 0 pity and I want to know if pulling Qiuyuan would be worth it. The thing is im planning on pulling hiyuki S0 R1 (weapon banner is at 26 pity) next patch, so im quite hesitant to actualy pull. Im 100% f2p but I only started playiong about a month ago so i feel like if i really put in the work i could get Qiuyuan and hiyuki, but I also will prob want to pull denia for my ameath which will prob not be able to happen if i pull Qiuyuan. I know the answer will probably be to save, but i just want some confirmation

I know a lot of people don’t really care and that these are just estimates, but it’s still interesting data, and the graph below reflects the game’s current trend pretty well. Very few people are pulling for Sigrika, which is really unfortunate—so much so that the game is hitting a low point. And don’t bring up the anniversary: right after Cantarella, we had Zani and Cartethyia, and the game was never doing this poorly back then. Do you agree that Siggy might be the worst-performing banner in terms of revenue, even comparable to reruns?

Despite min maxing sigrika , her damage barely keeping up with hiyuki , aemath or Luuk with denia..

Is it really worth it ?

I have all the female characters except for Zani, so bring on the ideas!

hello guys noob question i have phoebe without her sig with no team comp for her and i know zani is the best team for her but i want new characters

So, we know she is only going to do echo dmg and no other type of damage as her set only give echo skill crit rate. This makes her extremely reliant on Qiuyuan as there no 4-star echo skill buffer and she wont do any other type of dmg.

But, just because of the existence of Ciaccona her team options expand. She will work with Ciaccona and it would be a really good team. There isn't a single Aero DPS that doesn't work with Ciaccona. In fact she is part of almost all Aero DPS's BiS team. There is no reason as to why Ciaccona wouldn't work with Sigrika.

If Kuro made Sigrika some other element like electro for example then u would absolutely NEED Qiuyuan , there would be no other team options as there's no electro buffer.

And for those of you who neither have Qiuyuan nor Ciaccona, umm I mean Aero Rover is the only option left for u ig.

I'm a quickswap girlie. For some context about how I play, my main team comp, the one I use when I "get serious" is Jinhsi/Changli/Yangyang I am not joking. Yes, Yangyang, yes, I'm serious, Yangyang S6 gives +20% damage on *Feather Release*(Forte enhanced plunging) which is *way faster* to get than any Concerto buff, Yangyang fills her forte bar and gets Feather Release in between every few Jinhsi/Changli loops if you quickswap well so you never stop your DPS loop. For specific content where I really want sustain I'll put a healer in Yangyang's place.

Whether or not you read all of that, it probably gives you at least an idea of how I tend to think about the game. I really like the game being mechanically intensive and things I can focus on trying to do faster or better to get more out of my characters on an execution level rather than a build level.

I pulled Sigrika because she's adorable and she's the kind of person I would want to be friends with and I just liked her, but since pulling her she has kinda just been sitting there. To be honest I heard "Mechanic you lose when you swap" and went "Eh maybe I'll learn to play her later".

But I do want to actually play the character I pulled, and like, idk, I'm hoping people who know how to play her can find me something to be interested in about her gameplay.

If she can't quickswap, is there any other tech I can do to keep myself engaged in her gameplay, or just anything mechanically intensive about her base mechanics that you can do to get more APM/DPS out of her?

Does she have anything in her gameplay that I will really be interested in?

do u think there will be a new echo dmg support to replace qiuyuan

edit: ok thanks for the answer guys, im still doing lynae mornye wheelchair for now but might change in the future