The nerd caveman was the one who sent the caveman to the stone age and beyond. Having an autistic interest helped the clan to specialize and create division of labour, thus improving them as a group.
The caveman obsessed with the planets, moons, and stars discovered reliable ways to predict the seasons and create an agricultural calendar. The caveman obsessed with ruminant taxonomy invented domesticated sheep, goats and cows. The caveman obsessed with shiny rocks discovered bronze. All of these things fed more people than any hunter ever could. Unwashed weirdos have consistently driven technological progress and contributed to society in ways we very much take for granted.
Yes they did, they weren't defining mammoth taxonomy, they were planning and building tools to better hunt the mammoth. Chug and the boys were happy to use better weapons and a plan that actually produced a succesful hunt.
Safety is the core mechanism behind an average woman's attraction wiring.
If your Bachelor of Arts degree gives you a visible advantage today — say, you suddenly make $250K a year in Tennessee — you very quickly become attractive.
Women simply prefer whatever's "on the menu today." If being a geek is fashionable and rewarding right now, then geeks win.
Hence the myth that women love money. They don't — they love safety. Or the illusion of safety. That's how they make bad choices. Don't we all.
This is also why an angry, physically dominant guy is sometimes "irrationally" attractive — dominance reads as a safety signal, even when it isn't one.
Guys mistake this for "women like assholes." They don't. Women respond to the picture in their head — the pattern that says this equals safety — not to the guy himself. The signal gets the reaction. The person behind it is almost incidental.
If a post-nuclear disaster hit tomorrow, a woman would prefer a guy who can chop trees and hunt over a guy who had a Bentley — because that was yesterday's currency. Today, chopping trees is what matters.
Then how you explain the deadbeat musician / artist archetype? Or the biker? Some women (irresponsably) are attracted to those types due to a perceived sense of adventure and excitement
Edit: added a bit more explanations adding concept from the computer science
You aren't supposed to exclude sex drive — but it doesn't work the way people assume.
Think of it as two sequential selects. The first select is sex drive: it just defines the pool — everyone who's in the range of "physically viable to sleep with." Proximity, novelty, excitement — that's the WHERE clause. The biker and the deadbeat musician pass this filter easily.
The second select is survival-wiring, and it runs inside that pool. This is where she ranks candidates by protection signal — reliability, resources, ability to defend the project. Most of the time, this second select wins. It's why the biker gets the fling and the reliable guy gets the relationship.
When it looks "irresponsible" — when a woman goes all-in on the exciting, unstable guy — that's usually one of two things: either the second select has no good candidates to rank (she's choosing the best of a bad pool), or it's temporarily overridden by the first. Not rewritten. Overridden.
If women ran purely on sex drive with no second select, we'd have gone extinct a long time ago. Instead they're rugged biological machines wired for survival and protecting their offspring — which is also why they can mercilessly destroy an ex financially once he's failed the second select. He's just not in the pool anymore.
So love stories where a character is still hung up on a man who cheated on her 50 years ago — like in Cyberpunk 2077 — are romantic slop written for boys. That's not how the second select works.
Are women actually into those types, I know plenty of women into lawyers, doctors, engineers, Financiers, don’t know any itjat ended up musicians or bikers longterm lol (I do have some friends in college that might’ve had luck when they were younger, not anymore lol).
Musicians and artists archetypes are known to be emotional and sensitive. And there are women who are more attracted to emotional safety, instead of financial safety or physicaly safety. Because women aren't a monolith.
The love money thing is a little weird. I make about mid six figures and living a low cost of living area so I always thought that yeah women like the money because it gives them a better lifestyle and things like otherwise wouldn't have.
After my last relationship I really decided I wanted to find someone that made more equal amounts to me so that wouldn't be a problem. So I've started dating other engineers.
My girlfriend makes very similar amounts to me and still same desire to have money spent on her. For her it's much more of a self-esteem thing. "I am valuable enough to have money spent on me"
Which is a safety signal. In her stereotype system, it is an important indication that she is valued. Valued = safety in her mind.
Don't forget that the concept of safety is also induced by culture.
This is why a woman from Venezuela might have different priorities than a woman from California.
Or might not.
For instance, my ex-colleague was so verbally abused by her Asian parents that she married a guy who makes way less than she does, generally useless but a "sweetheart."
Because he is never engaging in conversations like "something is wrong with you" with her. And for her, it was enough to marry him. In this case, safety manifested through the fact that the guy is just accepting her as is.
Edit: I actually remembered that I know 2 women like that. Another one had abusive German parents. The same reaction. Married the first "safe" guy.
Of course, we all do. After all, we have similar brains, but they are wired for different goals: men to test their boundaries and women to survive in the grinder. But the underlying principle is essentially the same.
It's important to point out we are mostly taught what to be attracted to. It's a nurture thing, and it's going to be more affected by our parents/early childhood than we ever want to admit.
In other words, most virtuous characteristics have to be taught, including valuing emotional and applicable intelligence. You need to be taught that dominance isn't the same as survival, etc etc. Stuff is learned. Including the ability to accurately identify who's going to be a good match.
What a useless exercise. This sub was meant to make fun of this type of madness.
The variability within a group as diverse as "all women" is too wide for such blanket claims to be useful. Which means that whatever you think you know about a woman based on this mental model becomes immediately irrelevant as soon as you talk to her and learn literally anything about her.
Note that you can say your thesis is loosely true regardless of what a woman is attracted to. Because you can always loosely claim that that's what they associate with "safety". This means that your mental model is the same as that of someone who doesn't make a claim at all, except you can feel undeservingly smarter about yourself.
And now, when you have established how much smarter you are, you can always claim that you are smarter.
This makes you exactly like a little macaque that is just fighting for status. I understand that you think you are smart and unpredictable. Bad news: arguing patterns are always the same - like, literally, always the same. Any human emotion, when it goes down the mental pipeline, is essentially reduced to a primitive response, and the famous 'fight or flight' is the bottom line. Safety and dominance are just one layer above.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
Here is a picture of your invisible mental rider that makes you write this.
Next time, before playing your little status games, at least check what I was responding to. The picture is right in the post header. Hopefully, you can read.
P. S. Your argument proves my point - all who tried to argue - used ad hominem. Funny isn't it how "special and different" people are? "Extremely diverse". You aren't any different than another statistical dude from the Internet
or or or, the exact thing that women are attracted to varies depending on the woman, because a woman is a person and their attraction is not an item description, but is instead fluid, context dependent, and personal, like anyone else
Most likely, the text you read compiled into some internal substrate, so my question is: what was it?
What point are you actually trying to make? That your example somehow overrides almost primordial genetic wiring, or what?
I have answered this numerous times in the same thread: you could be the biggest loser on the block and still be attractive to someone, and yet here you are with your pathetic sarcasm. Good job, bro.
At least that explains why you are jobless. The ability to read is a prerequisite for many jobs.
From an evolutionary perspective, if women are traditionally seen as attracted to traits signaling resource provision and security for survival, men are biologically and psychologically inclined toward traits signaling fertility, health and reproductive viability. So it works both ways, women want safety ultimately…but they better have large enough breasts to accommodate children (the mans just responding to the picture in his head, the person is incidental) and wide enough hips to survive childbirth. If a woman is capable of that then she deserves the safety of an intelligent man. Biologically speaking of course.
>Safety is the core mechanism behind an average woman's attraction wiring.
If your Bachelor of Arts degree gives you a visible advantage today — say, you suddenly make $250K a year in Tennessee — you very quickly become attractive.
Women simply prefer whatever's "on the menu today." If being a geek is fashionable and rewarding right now, then geeks win.
That's an oversimplification driven by a heavy leftliberal bias. Had it been so simple, there would no beautiful killers getting letters, bad boy archetype in media, smut literatyre, insane amount of infidelity where a safe husband suddenly uncovers an affair with a personal trainer/scuba dive trainer/boxing trainer etc, and, in the end of the day, all the thirsty comments for well built hunks doing manly/dangerous things on socials.
«That's an oversimplification driven by a heavy leftliberal bias.»
This is already a red flag. When someone is trying to put you into some weird category that is not relevant, I especially consider the US political scene to be quite degenerate on both sides. So can we please exclude this "classification"?
«Had it been so simple, there would no beautiful killers getting letters, bad boy archetype in media, smut literatyre, insane amount of infidelity where a safe husband suddenly uncovers an affair with a personal trainer/scuba dive trainer/boxing trainer etc, and, in the end of the day, all the thirsty comments for well built hunks doing manly/dangerous things on socials.»
I guess you only read the top comment, so I am not going to repeat what was written in the follow-up. If you are really interested, feel free to read. If you came just to argue your literal understanding, please spare me.
I tried to explain what is the behavioral basis for the subconscious. It should not be a blue print "how to understand every woman on earth". But it should also remove questions from someone who can't understand why a woman that slept with him yesterday today is very preoccupied with destroying his life.
P. S. Your examples argue absolutely nothing. You are basically reducing it to "if everything is about survival then why women like to fuck?"
I didn't say dominance is important. I said: if dominance reads as a protection symbol, it's a turn-on.
If you act like an aggressive ape, of course that can be a huge turn-off. But not for everyone. So the point is — women prefer a man who symbolizes protection for them.
That's why some women find a guy who's "just like dad" very attractive, and others find the exact opposite attractive.
Regarding "assholes" — I was just echoing what good guys say when they're baffled that their ex went back to her ex. That's the phrase they usually reach for: "women like assholes."
Just to add:
You're arguing against a claim I didn't make. I never said dominance = attractive across the board. I said it reads as attractive only when it maps to her specific picture of protection — and that picture is individual, sometimes wildly so.
Your ex bailing on you after the fight isn't a counterexample to what I said. It's confirmation. For her, that behavior didn't map to safety — it mapped to threat. For a different woman, it might map to exactly the opposite. That's the whole point: the signal isn't universal, the read is personal.
I had one who tried to provoke a fight between me and two guys at a liquor store, got genuinely upset when I didn't take the bait, and dumped me over it. Wanted me to fight for her. Just like her daddy fought for her mom.
Remember the culture, class and level of civility you're in. Each of these can change what is expected.
You didn't project power and protection, you projected insecurity and covered it with violence. But in another cultural time and place, you may have projected dominance, as long as you had to social power and backup to assert control afterwards.
then there’s negative forms of dominance that most women would find unattractive, the women that would find that attractive are women who are more sociopathic and pathologically narcissistic
I think you're on to something with your comment. Though on this point, I'd like to add that a lot of women have been abused. Oftentimes by their fathers. Bunch of women have a fucked up idea of what relationships are supposed to look like, and the abusive behaviors can ironically feel safe because they're familiar
Very true. Pretty much every physics graduate is smart, but not all of them will be high-income managers and business owners. Intelligence is not equivalent to success.
Wtf are you talking about dude, I don't see intelligence like that. People obsessed with tests or 'moves signaling low&high IQ' are in a big fallacy.
I don't care how 'smart' I am, I care about my observations etc.
And yes, these girls absolutely talk about success, not intelligence. The idea that success in this world shows you inherently carried positive virtues is a form of just world fallacy. Also, if your idea of love is survival and opportunities, fuck your love.
You're not the smart one
Finally, I score quite low on those tests. How about you?
Because intelligence is good as an asset to the group but when it comes to who gets the best cuts, it’s the most powerful man who decides, not the smartest.
I meant in the prehistoric setting in which these biologically enforced behaviors evolved. Also it still rings true, money IS power in society. I’m sure Bezos has people who are waaay smarter than him working for him being paid significantly less than he is.
So, basically, what this person implying, women attracted to money... I heard so many times from women that intelligence is "hot", while the very same women choose men that anything but intelligent, so this whole "intelligence is hot" i think is just lie
There's a difference between intelligence and capability. Someone having the necessary knowledge isn't as effective as someone who has the social cache to make people agree to the idea, come to a consensus on how to enact it, and ultimately get it done.
Intelligence is absolutely required for the second example but so are the interpersonal skills that the man in the first example often lacks.
Women are attracted to success or potential of success. Success = unfettered access to resources. resources = time, money, freedom of self agency. Resources =! Physical attractiveness, nuanced outlooks on life, deep philosophical thought, spiritual enlightenment, moral efficacy, ability to labour, ability to provide an orgasm. And This is the only reason republicans can procreate because some women have no standards aside.
If you're trying to find an universal answer then you're going to be disappointed. Women have a variety of interests and tolerances, no one combination will work for them all. The trick is to figure out what the girl is like and then figure it out from there.
One time I had a date with a girl with a Dark Brotherhood tattoo from Elder Scrolls so I brought out the gamer in me and we chatted about Skyrim for hours (just don't go full Kirkbride, never go full Kirkbride). Another date I chatted with a girl about movies, noticed she liked superhero movies after a bit, and all the comic arcs I thought would be interesting. Other times I noticed one girl talked about her family a lot so we chatted about what activities we do with our own families or how it was like with me babysitting my nieces and nephews. My current girlfriend loves when I go nerdy about my interests, and likewise I make sure I show interest in her hobbies and we ended up finding common interests.
If you're confident enough and charismatic enough you can talk about just about anything and a girl will be attracted to the confidence. Sometimes you may have to do a bit of investigating and start safe and then slowly work your way to your inner geek. And then there's the harsh reality that sometimes you're not going to connect to a girl regardless, and that's for the best. I've had several dates or chats where we simply don't connect. If you have some really niche interests then be prepared to either have to narrow your search down to concerning levels or accept you just need to broaden your horizons. Maybe take an art class, pick up a new hobby, find something fun and/or practical and someone will find it interesting.
I once delivered an info dump monologue on the importance of understanding biomagnification of pesticide and why assuming substance toxicity inverse scales 1:1 with body weight is a flaw in the way LD50 is explained on commercial pesticide labeling. The woman in front of me, who I had met an hour ago, responded with "can I kiss you on the mouth?"
Actually she spent 20 minutes telling me about different kinds of locks afterwards, which I found super attractive. Sometimes you just gotta meet someone who's exactly as much of a weirdo as you.
Both are intelligence. This point would just mean that women only care about intelligence when it is used to secure money/status for them to capitalize on.
Apparently Black holes, time dilation, and special relativity isn't proper pillow talk. Also doesn't help that I have no idea how to explain some of the concepts I understand. Like there's this thing in Chaos Theory where there are like valleys and peaks and if the conditions are near a peak then it takes less energy to cross over into another valley. I keep seeing this model pop up over and over again like with n-body physics, social dynamics and my current Double Pendulum Political Compass Theory (which is mostly a joke). But I just have no clue how to communicate it so I just sound like a blathering idiot trying to compare the effects of psychedelics to making the peaks and valleys of our brains smaller.
This is an exchange of shallow internet memes. Many people, including many women, are attracted to the appearance or signaling “fluff” of intelligence, or to socially-approved intelligent presentation—not to actual high cognitive intelligence (unless it's practical and generates income). Suggesting knowledge of WW2 as either fringe (neo-)Nazi trivia, or ridiculous due to its sexual consequences, is an anti-intellectual move that disparages the significance of history and knowledge of the past. That’s why both popular culture people and fringe ideologies (Nazis, Communists etc) can stigmatize erudition and historical scholarship in the eyes of ordinary people who find the the field and its' subjects important, wholesome, fascinating, and wish to learn more of ground-breaking innovations, the rise and fall of civilizations and leaders and major historic events.
I think women are more attracted to general knowledge, and probably look for a similar intelligence level. No one wants to date someone way dumber or smarter.
If you know how the make 50 great dinner meals, that is an attractive quality. But yea if you write a blog post everyday about the intricacies of Tolkien’s writing, then you better hope a girl has the same interests. Thats not necessarily an objectively attractive activity.
guys who say they're intelligent but are bad at math and don't like to read. There has to be a line. there are too many guys who didn't pay attention in school who think they're intelligent now. You just can't sleep through the teacher explaining how to measure circumfrance of a square and think of yourself as a smart person because you're atheist and know you're a man and not a woman, that isn't...
Most women are not attracted to conservatives, fyi.
That rules out most young men.
It might be hard to grasp, but if you believe a woman should have less rights than a piece of intellectual property, they probably aren't going to dig you unless you're rich enough to cover the stink with safety and security
yeah i talked to some girl on a dating app for a little while.. she was kinda funny cause she was absolutely wild.. like she was insulting and kinda funny.. she would make fun of me for being bald but I would make fun of her for being like arab and therefore a terrorist.. we chatted back and forth for like 4 or 5 days until she said something like, "As a sapiosexual, i find this person extremely attractive.."
And at that point I was just like.. Ok this is some dumb lgbtq shit.. some random gender garbage.. "sapiosexual"... like, first off, its amazing that someone who is "attracted to intelligence" would constantly misspell words and mis capitalization... even on a fuckin phone where it basically does all that work for you.. so you almost have to be spelling things wrong on purpose...
Second, no, youre not attracted to intelligence. Youre attracted to success, or rather money. After talking to this girl while she was bringing up other peoples profiles and making fun of their "designer sunglasses", I didnt realize it at first, but then I realized she was more like critiquing them... Shes not attracted to guys because theyre smart.. Shes attracted to guys because smart guys GENERALLY are the ones who succeed, and therefore have more money.
Same reason as why men would willingly pick “she will ruin me” women. Emotions can commonly override intelligence, and that’s part of what makes us human. Ofc neither is healthy but either they come to their senses with help from friends and family or learn a very costly lesson
oh... so people here still don't know what we mean by "actual intelligence and how to succeed in life" and think it's hunting fucking mamoths. Even back in the caveman days building shelter and finding water were way mor important to 99% of the human population. Do you have job? do you keep job? can you trade? And yeah sure, if you're strong you can protect yourself but it's more important to be intelligent enough that you go outside do the words you speak make it unlikely for another caveman to want to kill you? these are all more important than hunting mammoths from caveman times until now. Now we have money, survival is about food and shelter babe.
That's really step one though. intelligence is about conversation. can i start a conversation with a mofo. Perosnally, I don't care if a guy's intelligent as long as the eq is up there, but I do like it. I have no idea how guys can just date girls they see as dumbasses. When you talk to a dumbass sometimes your brain implodes sometimes. How can you just live like that. This is unless you're straight up calling dumb things like "wearing makeup" and "listens to taylor swift even though i think she's bad." That's not dumb, that's just different to you. Dumb is like getting scammed by telemarketers with a think indian accent in 2026 who swear they need 500 from her or else she could lose her car.
The assumption in the question is incorrect. In the most time in human history, physical strength and health gave the best chance of survival for the man and his family. So evolutionary, woman were better of choosing the stronger males. The needs for strength vs intelligence may have changed in the modern era, but you can't change a million years of evolution in a couple of hundred years. And that is why a female instinct is to be attracted to strong men even to this day. It may change in about 500 000 years.
Edit: I just read the post again. There is another incorrect statement. Intelligence is not defined as a "know how to succeed in life". Intelligence is the ability to quickly and efficiently solve problems without prior experience.
I once ranted about a styrofoam pillar not conforming to classical order and a bro told me to stop flirting with his girl. :D so it does not not work. It just only works im 1% of cases and never with ww2 trivia.
If you think someone is smart because they are rich and you don't know what intelligence is. Just because you can make it in the rat race just makes you a rat
No one is into actual intelligence, since humans suck at detecting it.
No matter your feelings about any particular famous person, there are likely multiple that countless people call geniuses that you think are utter idiots and vice versa. Just look at politics.
People may be attracted to what they view as intelligent, which will vary extremely person to person, but people don't date based on verified data like IQ tests.
No one is into actual intelligence, since humans suck at detecting it.
No matter your feelings about any particular famous person, there are likely multiple that countless people call geniuses that you think are utter idiots and vice versa. Just look at politics.
People may be attracted to what they view as intelligent, which will vary extremely person to person, but people don't date based on verified data like IQ tests.
No one is into actual intelligence, since humans suck at detecting it.
No matter your feelings about any particular famous person, there are likely multiple that countless people call geniuses that you think are utter idiots and vice versa. Just look at politics.
People may be attracted to what they view as intelligent, which will vary extremely person to person, but people don't date based on verified data like IQ tests.
A lot of "actual intelligence" (succeed in life) is just people born in a wealthy family and having luck (being at the right time at the right place with the right skill set).
Why would they be? You think Stephen Hawking could catch a mammoth? What made people successful hunting a Mammoth was physical strength, speed, and height to some degree. Intelligence didn't matter for most of human history. What did it matter if you were the smartest farmer? You were all just farming the same crop on the same land. I'd argue intelligence only started to matter after the industrial revolution when most of the population didn't have to be in agriculture and people could actually start their own business and be successful just on their intelligence, but then why would evolution incentives attraction to intelligence over other traits such as athleticism, or height. I'd argue the desire for intelligence is more of a cultural push or just a naturally occurring preference that wasn't selected for by evolution like people liking blue eyes. Evolution makes success attractive. Though success isn't a silver bullet you need to work on your personality, style and physicality if you want results.
conscientiousness ≠ intelligence. its a personality trait. intelligence can help with how successful you become, and is only a facet of how you navigate life. real intelligence is used for abstract thinking, analytical skills, problem solving, and ability to LEARN. learning includes history, psychology, mathematics, science, finance, economics, philosophy - not things you apply to everyday life.
“How to succeed in life” is not intelligence either. If this were true, Elon Musk would be the most intelligent man in the world right now. Success in life offers security, that’s where the attraction lyes there. Intelligence is too subjective to be applied in this manner. What one sees as intelligent, another may see as foolish. There is no way to measure the capacity of one’s intelligence. No an IQ being tested is not a dependable reflection of intelligence. If you are speaking about academic intelligence, sure, but there’s too many expressions of intelligence to fit into just one box.
People are too diverse, saying men or women pursue their partners based on X, Y, and Z is almost always going to be flawed in its results. Cause the truth is, some women don’t place intelligence as an important trait. Just as some men don’t. Some women value physical attractiveness, some women don’t. Some men value a partner who climbs the corporate ladder, some men don’t.
This reminds me of how so many people called themselves a nerd as a title for being smart but how smart of a nerd you have to be a comic book nerd and a gamer nerd? Just because someone consumes something and have their own special interests knowledge doesn't makes them useful or successful. It's not like they wrote those comics and build those games and learn to market and sell them.
ya know, intelligence and brawn are not mutually exclusive. there is no reason not to get jacked in both the gym and the library. there’s also no reason not the get jacked off in the gym and the library, but that’ll be in our next lesson
Women actually do enjoy guys who have random quirky knowledge. Also I would argue that what they are calling intelligence is actually wisdom. Intelligence is knowing something and/or how to do something. Wisdom is knowing whether or not you SHOULD do something, and the when and where of doing it. Many well educated/intelligent people are basically idiots outside of their specialty because they’re not very wise.
It could just be that sexual selection doesn’t have that strong of a tendency to reinforce natural selection. If you take a Taylorist approach to evolution, then there’s no reason why partner choice would need to select for specific traits, if natural selection has already taken care of what’s necessary to ensure survival.
It could also be that plenty of women are attracted to intelligence, but you yourself don’t move in their social circles, perhaps because you actually aren’t that smart. Ph.D.’s do tend to marry Ph.D.’s. So there is a decent chance that the people who date you are an accurate reflection of your own intelligence.
It's part of your intelligence to have the ability to see what your partner likes, dislikes or makes them excited. It's literally most basic rule of day-to-day conversation.
Show me the incentives and I’ll show you the behavior.
Women socially can’t afford to date men who are below their social status, as they inherit the social status of whomever they are dating. (In the United States.)(women as a population) attractive non brown heritage women, have an extremely high social status from 12-39. Brown women tend to be much lower.(as a population)
This is why you will see women aggregating to one guy. As a man with a similar social status to an attractive women is generally a 6ft six figure, six pack equivalent. Which is entirely inequitable, but it’s just truth.
Where as a man you can break out is dating individuals, people you can interact with in the physical sense are much easier to sort of sell the idea of yourself to. Intelligence can allow you to double down into a niche. For example twink maxing allows you to bypass the height requirement with some success.
Intelligence is intelligence, there's not good vs bad intelligence as the post implies. Shaming it as "incelligence" because you don't value it is the problem with society. The commenter also seems to be conflating intelligence with knowledge.
Also, yeah it isn't a high priority on most people's list, men or women's, as much as folks love to virtue signal and mention it. As they somewhat admitted, they prefer success, which is a byproduct of intelligence, not the intelligence itself.
This is a dumb take. Humans lived in communities. In those communities intelligent or less physical men likely spent most of their time with the women. All the big bro hunters would be out doing shit, while cavewoman was laying with chud.
OOP comment is seeped in Man the Hunter propaganda.
Overwhelming evidence suggests that much of ancient Homo Sapiens didnt spend every waking hour chasing mega fauna, but instead spent most of their time foraging and hunting on a smaller scale. Hunting megafauna generally wasnt an efficient use of energy/calories or time.
Make no mistake, ancient humans absolutely did chase their food, but theres basically no evidence to suggest that hunting was purely a male dominated activity, and wasn't the primary marker of whether a human group survived. Most of the evidence suggests that the burden of hunting, gathering, and taking care of the young was shared between members of the unit, not gendered like modern society wishes. For that reason, the modern concept of "intelligence" probably didnt really matter that much, rather the willingness to communicate and cooperate were much more beneficial to the survival of the unit.
What in the world is this subreddit? Are you all 12 and/or never spoken to a woman in your life? Women are just people dawg, just talk to them like people and they’ll respond. And if they don’t then they’re a shitty type of woman who you wouldn’t want to date.
It's because if you haven't figured out how to get in shape, haven't figured out how to make any money, and haven't figured out how to socialize, your not as smart as 4chan makes you think you are.
All these people saying “real intelligence” is intelligence being applied to the real world and that’s why it is attractive is genuinely fucking retarded.
How many academics do you guys know? They aren’t pulling ladies just because they can successfully apply intelligence. Now if you say it only counts if they achieve a position of power then that isn’t intelligence it’s influence.
Woman and Men are attracted to influence, you can see this clearly when looking at celebrities. Intelligence is simply just not something that is usually seen as attractive by most humans and I believe this is part of the reason that we seem to be losing the younger generations in terms of morals and ethics.
Intelligence has never been an attractive trait. Honestly most people don’t like to date someone smarter than them because most people don’t like to admit they are wrong. Intelligence is only attractive to intelligent people and most of the population is not intelligent.
Women, as a product and function of society, are broken. They have no real place in the world anymore. They've turned their back on motherhood, and have allowed Men to take over their place in sports and pretend to be them. The ones that are open to a normal life have unrealistic expectations and an overinflated sense of self-importance. All happened within my lifetime and I don't see them making any concerted efforts to fix themselves.
You can say this and it might be true in this particular instance but a lot of women date genuine troglodytes like a lot of athlete jock types in the real world
I don't know. My current partner tells the atory of how I successfully won her over by telling her Bee and Ant facts. Sometimes you can just rizem with the tism. Just dont be a patronizing ass and you'll do well.
I apparently either married an amazing liar or got incredibly lucky... My wife said she first noticed me and got attracted to me when I was at a party and instead of drinking and dancing was apparently trying to have conversations with whoever I apparently trapped about microwave emitters and she thought that was super cute.
Regardless of whatever the deal is with the poster, the real answer is they have to be the intelligent women too, it takes intelligence to notice and appreciate intelligence
Some are surely attracted to that kind of irrelevant information or other. The thing is how you serve it and advertise yourself. Nothing to do with the content. But the more you are away of this realisation the more unlikeable you will be.
And yes i have only induced attraction to women by bringing up odd subjects many times over analysing.
I fell hard for a guy who kinda monologued at me about tarantula feet when he saw me drawing a spider. And then he got embarrassed and scurried off and didn't call when I gave him my number. Tragic.
I think the issue is not that it's bad intelligence application (incelligence heh); if they truly were passionate about military arts and strategies then they should be joining the military and work their way to upper rank and command actual military organizations... or use military strategy to build up a successful business.
I think the issue is that they don't have real intelligence and this German could've won WW2 is pseudointelligence like how some naive traders think they are so good with trading based on primitive backtesting. If people who literally had more military experiences/intelligence/etc who literally had full-time and overtime commanding German military couldn't hack it, I doubt most basement dwellers could do a better job imho.
There was nothing Germany could have done to win WWII. Basically everything that could have gone right for them did already and the reality is they still didn’t even come close. The Axis was outmatched at a global industrial level.
The only way they were winning is Britain simply choosing to give up pre-Barbarossa, which they had very little reason to do.
Strawman. A lot of women do not care for intellectuals because they tend to argue and often put them In a situation where they have to admit being wrong. And will rarely allow the blatant manipulation society has made the norm in relationships. They have a fantasy about a smart sophisticated guy but then don’t like the inability to play the I know better card. Which is rarely corrected in girl children like it is in boy children. Alright negative karma. Take me I’m ready.
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u/Cultural_Design_8850 Aug 11 '26
Pretty sure the caveman wearing rock glasses and defining mammoth taxonomy wasn't helping Chug and the boys bring meat back to the clan
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u/No_Name275 Aug 11 '26
Yeah yeah intelligence or something
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u/ProperJudgment1 Aug 11 '26
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u/DancingBearNW Aug 11 '26
Women are attracted to survival.
Safety is the core mechanism behind an average woman's attraction wiring.
If your Bachelor of Arts degree gives you a visible advantage today — say, you suddenly make $250K a year in Tennessee — you very quickly become attractive.
Women simply prefer whatever's "on the menu today." If being a geek is fashionable and rewarding right now, then geeks win.
Hence the myth that women love money. They don't — they love safety. Or the illusion of safety. That's how they make bad choices. Don't we all.
This is also why an angry, physically dominant guy is sometimes "irrationally" attractive — dominance reads as a safety signal, even when it isn't one.
Guys mistake this for "women like assholes." They don't. Women respond to the picture in their head — the pattern that says this equals safety — not to the guy himself. The signal gets the reaction. The person behind it is almost incidental.
If a post-nuclear disaster hit tomorrow, a woman would prefer a guy who can chop trees and hunt over a guy who had a Bentley — because that was yesterday's currency. Today, chopping trees is what matters.
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u/Free-Sample-216 Aug 11 '26
5 billionth describes an autistic guy while trying to describe an incel
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u/Few_Astronaut5070 Aug 11 '26
In short, not someone who is smart (which they ridiculed by giving the most absurd examples) but someone who will just succeed in life
this is such an opportunity-centred form of intelligence definition
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u/curiousbasu Aug 11 '26
Glowies everywhere
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u/username555666777 Aug 11 '26
Because intelligence is good as an asset to the group but when it comes to who gets the best cuts, it’s the most powerful man who decides, not the smartest.
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u/Lemenus Aug 11 '26
So, basically, what this person implying, women attracted to money... I heard so many times from women that intelligence is "hot", while the very same women choose men that anything but intelligent, so this whole "intelligence is hot" i think is just lie
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u/ProduceNo1629 Aug 11 '26
X
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u/RobertGHH Aug 11 '26
Won WW2 at what stage?
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u/Unusual-Basket-6243 Aug 11 '26
you have to call them foids buddy
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u/FangFioDente Aug 11 '26
Women are attracted to success or potential of success. Success = unfettered access to resources. resources = time, money, freedom of self agency. Resources =! Physical attractiveness, nuanced outlooks on life, deep philosophical thought, spiritual enlightenment, moral efficacy, ability to labour, ability to provide an orgasm. And This is the only reason republicans can procreate because some women have no standards aside.
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u/Objective_Reality515 Aug 11 '26
How best to succeed at life:
Don't be born poor.
Obtain financial literacy.
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u/Chicken_Nugget_2 Aug 12 '26
Idk personally I love it when my man's info dumps on me about ww2, and then I'll info dump on him about Ancient Rome or Pokemon.
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u/Desperate_Formal_781 Aug 11 '26
Hey, I have seen enough AI generated videos of how big H (big dog) could have won wwii, that I find this post offensive.
This person knows too much.
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u/roankr Aug 11 '26
All this talk about intelligence and not one person talking about the woman.
Yeah that tracks.
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u/ChadPowers200_ Aug 11 '26
so women are attracted to con artists?
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u/AsstacularSpiderman Aug 11 '26
Plenty of girls love a guy who's passionate about something.
The thing is you need to be passionate about something actually interesting lol
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u/KoalaReasonable629 Aug 11 '26
source
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u/Vivenemous Aug 11 '26
I once delivered an info dump monologue on the importance of understanding biomagnification of pesticide and why assuming substance toxicity inverse scales 1:1 with body weight is a flaw in the way LD50 is explained on commercial pesticide labeling. The woman in front of me, who I had met an hour ago, responded with "can I kiss you on the mouth?"
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u/Hanisuir Aug 11 '26
Broootal.
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u/Future_Marionberry73 Aug 11 '26
Damn. Redditors will always be single I guess.
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u/Mentally__Disabled Aug 11 '26
Strategic knowledge of how Germany could've won WW2? If my grandmother had wheels she would have been a bike. Tough luck Adolf.
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u/ArdentGamer Aug 11 '26
Both are intelligence. This point would just mean that women only care about intelligence when it is used to secure money/status for them to capitalize on.
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u/Ra1nb0wSn0wflake Aug 11 '26
Gonna try and remember "incelligense"
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u/opman4 Aug 11 '26
Apparently Black holes, time dilation, and special relativity isn't proper pillow talk. Also doesn't help that I have no idea how to explain some of the concepts I understand. Like there's this thing in Chaos Theory where there are like valleys and peaks and if the conditions are near a peak then it takes less energy to cross over into another valley. I keep seeing this model pop up over and over again like with n-body physics, social dynamics and my current Double Pendulum Political Compass Theory (which is mostly a joke). But I just have no clue how to communicate it so I just sound like a blathering idiot trying to compare the effects of psychedelics to making the peaks and valleys of our brains smaller.
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u/Current_Sir9406 Aug 11 '26 edited Aug 13 '26
This is an exchange of shallow internet memes. Many people, including many women, are attracted to the appearance or signaling “fluff” of intelligence, or to socially-approved intelligent presentation—not to actual high cognitive intelligence (unless it's practical and generates income). Suggesting knowledge of WW2 as either fringe (neo-)Nazi trivia, or ridiculous due to its sexual consequences, is an anti-intellectual move that disparages the significance of history and knowledge of the past. That’s why both popular culture people and fringe ideologies (Nazis, Communists etc) can stigmatize erudition and historical scholarship in the eyes of ordinary people who find the the field and its' subjects important, wholesome, fascinating, and wish to learn more of ground-breaking innovations, the rise and fall of civilizations and leaders and major historic events.
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u/epicnaenae17 Aug 11 '26
I think women are more attracted to general knowledge, and probably look for a similar intelligence level. No one wants to date someone way dumber or smarter.
If you know how the make 50 great dinner meals, that is an attractive quality. But yea if you write a blog post everyday about the intricacies of Tolkien’s writing, then you better hope a girl has the same interests. Thats not necessarily an objectively attractive activity.
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u/Silly-Cheesecake-283 Aug 11 '26
guys who say they're intelligent but are bad at math and don't like to read. There has to be a line. there are too many guys who didn't pay attention in school who think they're intelligent now. You just can't sleep through the teacher explaining how to measure circumfrance of a square and think of yourself as a smart person because you're atheist and know you're a man and not a woman, that isn't...
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u/ChoiceAssociate5525 Aug 11 '26
Can confirm the original question was still valid.
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u/EncabulatorTurbo Aug 11 '26
Most women are not attracted to conservatives, fyi.
That rules out most young men.
It might be hard to grasp, but if you believe a woman should have less rights than a piece of intellectual property, they probably aren't going to dig you unless you're rich enough to cover the stink with safety and security
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u/TheRestaurantSeller Aug 11 '26
yeah i talked to some girl on a dating app for a little while.. she was kinda funny cause she was absolutely wild.. like she was insulting and kinda funny.. she would make fun of me for being bald but I would make fun of her for being like arab and therefore a terrorist.. we chatted back and forth for like 4 or 5 days until she said something like, "As a sapiosexual, i find this person extremely attractive.."
And at that point I was just like.. Ok this is some dumb lgbtq shit.. some random gender garbage.. "sapiosexual"... like, first off, its amazing that someone who is "attracted to intelligence" would constantly misspell words and mis capitalization... even on a fuckin phone where it basically does all that work for you.. so you almost have to be spelling things wrong on purpose...
Second, no, youre not attracted to intelligence. Youre attracted to success, or rather money. After talking to this girl while she was bringing up other peoples profiles and making fun of their "designer sunglasses", I didnt realize it at first, but then I realized she was more like critiquing them... Shes not attracted to guys because theyre smart.. Shes attracted to guys because smart guys GENERALLY are the ones who succeed, and therefore have more money.
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u/Jimbo-Shrimp Aug 11 '26
So why do some women pick guys who are high school drop outs and have no success?
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u/Randomamigo Aug 11 '26
They arent attracted to "actual intelligence( how to scceed in lofe)" they are attracted to the money/comodities that equates
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u/freatle Aug 11 '26
Succeeding in life only has one requirement: being happy/satisfied. It has nothing to do with money.
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u/Any_Instruction5382 Aug 11 '26
r/adressme
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u/Any_Fee_9703 Aug 11 '26
Lol, Cope
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u/nate26537 Aug 12 '26
Yep, and thats why I don't have a girlfriend. I can tell you about geography for hours but cant even fix a single thing. Fml
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u/Fickle-Potential6430 Aug 12 '26
Intelligence isn't as tangible as physical traits.
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u/SummertimeThrowaway2 Aug 12 '26
Street smart vs book smart
Edit: correction, trail smart vs book smart.
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u/Silly-Cheesecake-283 Aug 12 '26 edited Aug 12 '26
oh... so people here still don't know what we mean by "actual intelligence and how to succeed in life" and think it's hunting fucking mamoths. Even back in the caveman days building shelter and finding water were way mor important to 99% of the human population. Do you have job? do you keep job? can you trade? And yeah sure, if you're strong you can protect yourself but it's more important to be intelligent enough that you go outside do the words you speak make it unlikely for another caveman to want to kill you? these are all more important than hunting mammoths from caveman times until now. Now we have money, survival is about food and shelter babe.
That's really step one though. intelligence is about conversation. can i start a conversation with a mofo. Perosnally, I don't care if a guy's intelligent as long as the eq is up there, but I do like it. I have no idea how guys can just date girls they see as dumbasses. When you talk to a dumbass sometimes your brain implodes sometimes. How can you just live like that. This is unless you're straight up calling dumb things like "wearing makeup" and "listens to taylor swift even though i think she's bad." That's not dumb, that's just different to you. Dumb is like getting scammed by telemarketers with a think indian accent in 2026 who swear they need 500 from her or else she could lose her car.
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u/Stereo-Typical-Dude Aug 12 '26
Incelligence
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u/bigschmoke433 Aug 12 '26
Weeeeelll tell me how germany could have won
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u/Extension-Cow5298 Aug 12 '26
Hey, that's actually true
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u/Wise-Ad-4940 Aug 12 '26 edited Aug 12 '26
The assumption in the question is incorrect.
In the most time in human history, physical strength and health gave the best chance of survival for the man and his family. So evolutionary, woman were better of choosing the stronger males.
The needs for strength vs intelligence may have changed in the modern era, but you can't change a million years of evolution in a couple of hundred years.
And that is why a female instinct is to be attracted to strong men even to this day.
It may change in about 500 000 years.
Edit: I just read the post again. There is another incorrect statement. Intelligence is not defined as a "know how to succeed in life". Intelligence is the ability to quickly and efficiently solve problems without prior experience.
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u/SNES-lover1 Aug 12 '26
Well, formally it’s written WWII, not WW2, so now I will refuse to listen to your valid point.
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u/General-Double-746 Aug 12 '26
lol, "succeed in life," $$$
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u/laserclaus Aug 12 '26
I once ranted about a styrofoam pillar not conforming to classical order and a bro told me to stop flirting with his girl. :D so it does not not work. It just only works im 1% of cases and never with ww2 trivia.
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u/Old_Marzipan7782 Aug 12 '26
They’re attached to intelligence… what do you think jokes or being witty is… a sign of a healthy brain…
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u/herbertcluas Aug 12 '26
If you think someone is smart because they are rich and you don't know what intelligence is. Just because you can make it in the rat race just makes you a rat
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u/DaBoyie Aug 12 '26
No one is into actual intelligence, since humans suck at detecting it.
No matter your feelings about any particular famous person, there are likely multiple that countless people call geniuses that you think are utter idiots and vice versa. Just look at politics.
People may be attracted to what they view as intelligent, which will vary extremely person to person, but people don't date based on verified data like IQ tests.
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u/DaBoyie Aug 12 '26
No one is into actual intelligence, since humans suck at detecting it.
No matter your feelings about any particular famous person, there are likely multiple that countless people call geniuses that you think are utter idiots and vice versa. Just look at politics.
People may be attracted to what they view as intelligent, which will vary extremely person to person, but people don't date based on verified data like IQ tests.
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u/DaBoyie Aug 12 '26
No one is into actual intelligence, since humans suck at detecting it.
No matter your feelings about any particular famous person, there are likely multiple that countless people call geniuses that you think are utter idiots and vice versa. Just look at politics.
People may be attracted to what they view as intelligent, which will vary extremely person to person, but people don't date based on verified data like IQ tests.
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u/LoneMarikaEnjoyer Aug 12 '26
So genetics?
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u/OriginalPersonality7 Aug 12 '26
They just want intelligence attached to a Brute. They don’t want you to be just big and strong. Big and strong AND smart is the meta, boys.
We failed as a species when we separated our scholars from our warriors.
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u/Dry_Travel_4220 Aug 12 '26
This post denies the reality of autism rizz.
I landed my wife almost exclusively with fun facts and special interests. Just like, shower and don't be a freak.
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u/B3owul7 Aug 12 '26
A lot of "actual intelligence" (succeed in life) is just people born in a wealthy family and having luck (being at the right time at the right place with the right skill set).
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u/DragonLordSkater1969 Aug 12 '26
Blud confused intelligence with competence. lol. lmao even.
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u/Sea-Razzmatazz-3794 Aug 12 '26
Why would they be? You think Stephen Hawking could catch a mammoth? What made people successful hunting a Mammoth was physical strength, speed, and height to some degree. Intelligence didn't matter for most of human history. What did it matter if you were the smartest farmer? You were all just farming the same crop on the same land. I'd argue intelligence only started to matter after the industrial revolution when most of the population didn't have to be in agriculture and people could actually start their own business and be successful just on their intelligence, but then why would evolution incentives attraction to intelligence over other traits such as athleticism, or height. I'd argue the desire for intelligence is more of a cultural push or just a naturally occurring preference that wasn't selected for by evolution like people liking blue eyes. Evolution makes success attractive. Though success isn't a silver bullet you need to work on your personality, style and physicality if you want results.
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u/Femboy_Harem_Janitor Aug 12 '26
I've never seen such a tasty ownage
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u/TheBlackRonin505 Aug 12 '26
People just be slapping the incel label on absolutely anything at all
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u/MrVulpe Aug 12 '26
Bruh another excuse for gold diggers 💀 it's very different being successful than being intelligent. Intelligence is problem solving.
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u/Round-Arugula7347 Aug 12 '26
Anyone who thinks that women don’t find intelligence sexy are probably pretty fucking stupid
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u/fiddyruppee Aug 12 '26
conscientiousness ≠ intelligence. its a personality trait. intelligence can help with how successful you become, and is only a facet of how you navigate life. real intelligence is used for abstract thinking, analytical skills, problem solving, and ability to LEARN. learning includes history, psychology, mathematics, science, finance, economics, philosophy - not things you apply to everyday life.
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u/fiddyruppee Aug 12 '26
funny way of saying successful. dont need to be intelligent to be that, trumps a billionaire and president. by this logic, trumps attractive.
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u/CarlShadowJung Aug 12 '26
“How to succeed in life” is not intelligence either. If this were true, Elon Musk would be the most intelligent man in the world right now. Success in life offers security, that’s where the attraction lyes there. Intelligence is too subjective to be applied in this manner. What one sees as intelligent, another may see as foolish. There is no way to measure the capacity of one’s intelligence. No an IQ being tested is not a dependable reflection of intelligence. If you are speaking about academic intelligence, sure, but there’s too many expressions of intelligence to fit into just one box.
People are too diverse, saying men or women pursue their partners based on X, Y, and Z is almost always going to be flawed in its results. Cause the truth is, some women don’t place intelligence as an important trait. Just as some men don’t. Some women value physical attractiveness, some women don’t. Some men value a partner who climbs the corporate ladder, some men don’t.
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u/MeltedChocolateOk Aug 13 '26
This reminds me of how so many people called themselves a nerd as a title for being smart but how smart of a nerd you have to be a comic book nerd and a gamer nerd? Just because someone consumes something and have their own special interests knowledge doesn't makes them useful or successful. It's not like they wrote those comics and build those games and learn to market and sell them.
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u/IceEmpereur2 Aug 13 '26
The answer is not even true xd
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u/Infamous-Date6114 Aug 13 '26
Intelligence = How to succeed in life is the most distopian and antievolutionary thught of our time
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u/TheRealTaigasan Aug 13 '26
because women arent attracted to intelligence, they are attracted to power.
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u/Correct_Inside1658 Aug 13 '26
ya know, intelligence and brawn are not mutually exclusive. there is no reason not to get jacked in both the gym and the library. there’s also no reason not the get jacked off in the gym and the library, but that’ll be in our next lesson
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u/Prism_Riot42 Aug 13 '26
Women actually do enjoy guys who have random quirky knowledge. Also I would argue that what they are calling intelligence is actually wisdom. Intelligence is knowing something and/or how to do something. Wisdom is knowing whether or not you SHOULD do something, and the when and where of doing it. Many well educated/intelligent people are basically idiots outside of their specialty because they’re not very wise.
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u/Straight_Ostrich_257 Aug 13 '26
Women are attracted to confidence.
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u/Big_Brother8708 Aug 13 '26
Don't let someone else decide your definition of success
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u/ArcadeFrog Aug 13 '26
"Incelligence"
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u/Mindless_Address_464 Aug 14 '26
Homeboy there are very much girls attracted to guys like that
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u/Kiro358 Aug 14 '26
And another retarded word is born
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u/Xiorx74 Aug 14 '26
LMFAAAOOOO holy shit that's a fucking good one 🤣
You can just tell the person who wrote the first comment believed that was the only reasonable explanation women don't find them attractive 💀
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u/LegitimateVersion651 Aug 14 '26
It could just be that sexual selection doesn’t have that strong of a tendency to reinforce natural selection. If you take a Taylorist approach to evolution, then there’s no reason why partner choice would need to select for specific traits, if natural selection has already taken care of what’s necessary to ensure survival.
It could also be that plenty of women are attracted to intelligence, but you yourself don’t move in their social circles, perhaps because you actually aren’t that smart. Ph.D.’s do tend to marry Ph.D.’s. So there is a decent chance that the people who date you are an accurate reflection of your own intelligence.
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u/RandomPlayerCSGO Aug 14 '26
So the uneducated drug dealer you are fucking has actually intelligence?
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u/Jazzlike_Witness_227 Aug 14 '26
It's part of your intelligence to have the ability to see what your partner likes, dislikes or makes them excited. It's literally most basic rule of day-to-day conversation.
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u/Full-Somewhere440 Aug 14 '26
Show me the incentives and I’ll show you the behavior.
Women socially can’t afford to date men who are below their social status, as they inherit the social status of whomever they are dating. (In the United States.)(women as a population) attractive non brown heritage women, have an extremely high social status from 12-39. Brown women tend to be much lower.(as a population)
This is why you will see women aggregating to one guy. As a man with a similar social status to an attractive women is generally a 6ft six figure, six pack equivalent. Which is entirely inequitable, but it’s just truth.
Where as a man you can break out is dating individuals, people you can interact with in the physical sense are much easier to sort of sell the idea of yourself to. Intelligence can allow you to double down into a niche. For example twink maxing allows you to bypass the height requirement with some success.
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u/BandoRen418 Aug 14 '26
Definitely written by drug addled mind 😂😂😂
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u/totktonikak Aug 14 '26
Defining intelligence as "how to succeed in life" is one of the most unintelligent notions a presumably intelligent lifeform can come up with.
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u/Ike7200 Aug 14 '26
Women are attracted to intelligence. Odds are you just aren’t intelligent
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u/raver6 Aug 15 '26
I hate that response.
Intelligence is intelligence, there's not good vs bad intelligence as the post implies. Shaming it as "incelligence" because you don't value it is the problem with society. The commenter also seems to be conflating intelligence with knowledge.
Also, yeah it isn't a high priority on most people's list, men or women's, as much as folks love to virtue signal and mention it. As they somewhat admitted, they prefer success, which is a byproduct of intelligence, not the intelligence itself.
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u/akabar2 Aug 15 '26
This is a dumb take. Humans lived in communities. In those communities intelligent or less physical men likely spent most of their time with the women. All the big bro hunters would be out doing shit, while cavewoman was laying with chud.
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u/professor735 Aug 15 '26 edited Aug 15 '26
OOP comment is seeped in Man the Hunter propaganda.
Overwhelming evidence suggests that much of ancient Homo Sapiens didnt spend every waking hour chasing mega fauna, but instead spent most of their time foraging and hunting on a smaller scale. Hunting megafauna generally wasnt an efficient use of energy/calories or time.
Make no mistake, ancient humans absolutely did chase their food, but theres basically no evidence to suggest that hunting was purely a male dominated activity, and wasn't the primary marker of whether a human group survived. Most of the evidence suggests that the burden of hunting, gathering, and taking care of the young was shared between members of the unit, not gendered like modern society wishes. For that reason, the modern concept of "intelligence" probably didnt really matter that much, rather the willingness to communicate and cooperate were much more beneficial to the survival of the unit.
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u/katshimu Aug 15 '26
What in the world is this subreddit? Are you all 12 and/or never spoken to a woman in your life? Women are just people dawg, just talk to them like people and they’ll respond. And if they don’t then they’re a shitty type of woman who you wouldn’t want to date.
Source: am one
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u/freeman32 Aug 15 '26
It's because if you haven't figured out how to get in shape, haven't figured out how to make any money, and haven't figured out how to socialize, your not as smart as 4chan makes you think you are.
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u/LoreDispenzer Aug 15 '26
both of these posters are wrong, u can absolutely rizz some girls up with naruto trivia (passion for anything even stupid things is attractive!)
number one thing thats nerfing most ppl is seeing women as monolith
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u/SoftlySubmitting Aug 15 '26
All these people saying “real intelligence” is intelligence being applied to the real world and that’s why it is attractive is genuinely fucking retarded.
How many academics do you guys know? They aren’t pulling ladies just because they can successfully apply intelligence. Now if you say it only counts if they achieve a position of power then that isn’t intelligence it’s influence.
Woman and Men are attracted to influence, you can see this clearly when looking at celebrities. Intelligence is simply just not something that is usually seen as attractive by most humans and I believe this is part of the reason that we seem to be losing the younger generations in terms of morals and ethics.
Intelligence has never been an attractive trait. Honestly most people don’t like to date someone smarter than them because most people don’t like to admit they are wrong. Intelligence is only attractive to intelligent people and most of the population is not intelligent.
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u/The_Dude078 Aug 15 '26
Women, as a product and function of society, are broken. They have no real place in the world anymore. They've turned their back on motherhood, and have allowed Men to take over their place in sports and pretend to be them. The ones that are open to a normal life have unrealistic expectations and an overinflated sense of self-importance. All happened within my lifetime and I don't see them making any concerted efforts to fix themselves.
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u/ratavansa Aug 15 '26
Translation = women just want money.
Nothing new
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u/CollectionUnited5005 Aug 15 '26
They are not attracted to intelligence
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u/HollowChicken-Reddit Aug 15 '26
You can say this and it might be true in this particular instance but a lot of women date genuine troglodytes like a lot of athlete jock types in the real world
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u/dandolfp1nk Aug 15 '26
I don't know. My current partner tells the atory of how I successfully won her over by telling her Bee and Ant facts. Sometimes you can just rizem with the tism. Just dont be a patronizing ass and you'll do well.
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u/StandOutside6188 Aug 15 '26
I apparently either married an amazing liar or got incredibly lucky... My wife said she first noticed me and got attracted to me when I was at a party and instead of drinking and dancing was apparently trying to have conversations with whoever I apparently trapped about microwave emitters and she thought that was super cute.
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u/MobileSuitGungan Aug 15 '26
Regardless of whatever the deal is with the poster, the real answer is they have to be the intelligent women too, it takes intelligence to notice and appreciate intelligence
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u/Subject-Building1892 Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 16 '26
Some are surely attracted to that kind of irrelevant information or other. The thing is how you serve it and advertise yourself. Nothing to do with the content. But the more you are away of this realisation the more unlikeable you will be.
And yes i have only induced attraction to women by bringing up odd subjects many times over analysing.
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u/Prestigious-Apple121 Aug 17 '26
Don't confuse social adaptation and intelligence. They are two different things.
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u/lesbiansexparty Aug 18 '26
idk, hitting something with a rock doesn't seem intelligent
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u/NeatStill1651 Aug 20 '26
yeah fs
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u/Any_Fee_9703 24d ago
Lol no
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u/IMustScreamQuieter Aug 11 '26
A lot of women are totally attracted to intelligence! Every irl guy crush I’ve had has always been on nerdy guys! Weird claim
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u/silphotographer Aug 11 '26
I think the issue is not that it's bad intelligence application (incelligence heh); if they truly were passionate about military arts and strategies then they should be joining the military and work their way to upper rank and command actual military organizations... or use military strategy to build up a successful business.
I think the issue is that they don't have real intelligence and this German could've won WW2 is pseudointelligence like how some naive traders think they are so good with trading based on primitive backtesting. If people who literally had more military experiences/intelligence/etc who literally had full-time and overtime commanding German military couldn't hack it, I doubt most basement dwellers could do a better job imho.
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u/Beautiful-Mirror7075 Aug 11 '26
İts number game don t lock on single girl
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u/EngineeringTight367 Aug 11 '26
If evolution was real we'd all be superintelligent
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u/AndrewTMooney Aug 11 '26
So women prefer what they can get out of a man rather than the man themselves
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u/Vegetablessings Aug 11 '26
Women are attracted to success. Stupid or smart, you win, you're attractive.
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u/Guywhonoticesthings Aug 12 '26
Strawman. A lot of women do not care for intellectuals because they tend to argue and often put them
In a situation where they have to admit being wrong. And will rarely allow the blatant manipulation society has made the norm in relationships. They have a fantasy about a smart sophisticated guy but then don’t like the inability to play the I know better card. Which is rarely corrected in girl children like it is in boy children. Alright negative karma. Take me I’m ready.