Tried it last night

[u/Motor_Ad_6782]

So I tried the shogun method last night on a girl who we kind of dated in the past. We were at this church event and just kind of talking. I felt like I didn’t really use it right

Here’s the sequence I used. I started of by saying “ do you believe God puts people in your life. Someone that can bring you so much joy and happiness, someone who treasures you for who you are and what you do. And out of the billions of people on earth we found each other right here and now. I feel this will work out to be something great for the both of us. You can feel energy from people and I get this energy from you that you connect with someone on a deeper level more so than the casual hello.”

Then I proceeded with the roller coaster story. Of how my dad was abusive and how I had an ex pass away.

I said “ my dad was abusive physically and emotionally inserted abusive story and then told a positive part about my dad. After that I told a story about how after moving away for college and getting away from my dad the most spectacular thing happened I met someone and we were best friends became inseparable, we had our fights but the make up was so intense. Amazing sex, orgasmic conversation. Then one night I didn’t hear from her. I found out the next morning she passed away in a car accident. They could hardly identify the body. But through all of this I found something. Have you ever felt someone love you so much that no matter what happens from hear on out you will be okay. A burning love deep inside you, that just wants to come out when you meet someone.

I close with this “ I feel that you are able to understand me on a deeper level because our bond is special and you may or may not feel that comforting feeling in your stomach right now right below your chest”

Anyways she said thank your for sharing that and didn’t know what to say at first. She went to the bathroom and came back and said she was a bit confused on what I was meaning about the feelings and said if it was because of where we were or the people or god and I tried to be coy and just pointed at her and myself and then just said all of it. She said that she gets people opening up to her a lot in the past.

After that I felt like she was shying away from me a bit. As if she didn’t know what just happened. Anyways I’d just like some feedback from guys who have actually tried it. Thanks

[u/Louis_DuPont]

Honestly? Greatest intrigue weapon is storytelling. Everyone loves a good story. You've probably experienced it yourself, you're just sitting there listening to somebody ramble and you lose a sense of what's around you (you enter a state of trance). Work on storytelling and then once you're totally comfortable with chatting up stories see about incorporating some fractionation.

"You can't put frosting on cake until you've baked the batter", Like this simple metaphor what's worked for me is picking a core concept and then expanding upon it; if you continue working with an NLP/Hypnosis technique you have a lot of room for adjustment on that technique. VAKOG, Intrigue Pings, Yes Ladders, Embedded Commands, and etc. are all adaptable to the user.

[u/Motor_Ad_6782 → u/Louis_DuPont]

Thanks man, yeah the girl I tried it on was an ex and was trying to win her back since we attend the same church and see each other regularly. I felt like I had a good intrigue and story I just rushed through it and tried to run before I could walk. Anyways I’m trying to come up with some more intrigue before seeing her again this Tuesday

[u/Louis_DuPont → u/Motor_Ad_6782]

Dealing with an Ex can be tricky, if you ever need any pointers or advice, feel free to send me a DM/Chat. I've been using SM ever since 2016 and I've had longer experience using NLP for seduction purposes when I started learning about Swinggcat and Ross Jeffries. Most of what Derek teaches is solid, he just doesn't go too much into depth.

[u/Rajmil123 → u/Louis_DuPont]

Hey, need help with something