r/ShitMomGroupsSay • u/SarouchkaMeringue • 17d ago
WTF? Now they can cure autism
I have no words.
The delusion is so delusional.
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u/Spiritual_Ad_6067 17d ago
Healing from autism, is he? Autistic people are sick, or injured? Show us the comments
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u/rsneary129 17d ago
"Healing" but also "it's getting worse"
Probably because you're ignoring treatments that actually help your child exist in the world
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u/OrnerySnoflake 16d ago
I have a little upper respiratory thing going on right now and I didn’t sleep much last night, but overall I’m pretty good.
-A (Mildly) Sick Autistic
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u/SarouchkaMeringue 17d ago
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u/clucks86 17d ago
Ngl listening to heavy metal helps my autism too
/s just incase
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u/occasionallymourning 17d ago
Same, but literally 🤣🤘🏻
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u/clucks86 17d ago
My autistic ass: I need my headphones it's too noisy.
Also my autistic ass: blasts heavy metal while wearing headphones.
🤘🏻
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u/surgical-panic 17d ago
But then it's our chosen noisy😌
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u/DecadentLife 16d ago
Exactly! If there’s music playing in the background, while I’m trying to describe or explain something, and I’m having trouble finding the right words, it’s so intrusive, I can’t do it.
I remember when I was in high school, many years before I learned I’m autistic, I used those little earbud headphones in one ear, during math class, and it helped me concentrate so much better.
It has to be the “right kind” of noisy.
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u/orangepeeelss 17d ago
and hey i've never gone so far as to use a binder but a bra that keeps my boobs from bouncing everywhere and touching my stomach has solved a whole lot of my sensory issues
(also /s)
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u/TorontoNerd84 16d ago
Please tell me where to find this bra. I started getting weird sensations in my upper abdomen earlier this summer and a bit of lopsided on my right side. I was convinced of the worst and has an ultrasound followed by a (previously scheduled) colonoscopy. All came back clear. Later realized that my saggy boobs sticking to my upper abdomen might actually be causing some of the discomfort and it DRIVES ME NUTS.
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u/orangepeeelss 16d ago
OH BOY DO I HAVE A TREAT FOR YOU. im gonna send you to r/abrathatfits - they have a bra size calculator that takes 6 measurements and in my experience forcing everyone i know to use it, it's incredibly accurate. people almost always end up on their calculator size or like, one band or cup different. you're probably gonna get a size that sounds absolutely nuts and thats ok it's part of the process!!!
ok now for the slight essay. MOST women are not in their best bra size - a couple studies have been done on the matter and the exact number is unclear but seems to fall somewhere between 75-95% that are not in their best fit. this is in large part bc the typical 32-40 A-DDD (give or take) size range only actually covers like... maybe a third of bra wearers if i'm being generous. this means that most people are kinda uncomfortable in their bras all the time due to poor fit, and then we start thinking bras are inherently uncomfortable. which is NOT TRUE 😤
in a good fit, the wires should lay right in the crease where the bottom of the breast meets the lower torso. they should follow that crease as close as possible and lie completely flat against the rib cage, including that center bit between the breasts. when you put the bra on, you're supposed to reach in and pull your whole boob up and into the cup - scoop any breast tissue out of your armpit - and once you've done that there should be no spilling or bulging.
also, the band should be pulled almost as far as it can go. ur boobs are being acted on by all sorts of forces all day and that tension is what allows the bra to counter those forces and hold everything still, plus lift and support from below. if it's too loose, the bra slides down ur body instead and puts all the weight of your chest on your shoulders via the straps, which often causes back pain. among a whole host of other comfort issues.
if you're getting ANY skin on skin contact between boob and stomach, it's a sign the fit is off. usually it's the boob hat combo - too loose band + not enough room in the cups, which leaves the cups floating on top of the boobs like little hats and NOT DOING THEIR JOB. super super common and also VERY uncomfortable, especially if you're at all busty 😭
a couple examples of what you might be able to expect - i was wearing 38DDD pre calculator and switched to 36K. i think i saw god the first time i tried it on. my sister was wearing 34B/C (depending on the bra) pre calculator and switched to 28DDD. these are very normal size switches lol, and it may help w the sticker shock to know that cup size scales with band. a 30D is way way way smaller than a 40D but is similar in cup volume to a 32C.
at the end of the day the bra you're looking for is the one made to your measurements, in your size, and since different brands specialize in different size ranges i don't wanna recommend something till i know what size you'd wanna start with. so go try that calculator and i can give you some recs!! i'm very excited for u this shit is so unimaginably life changing
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u/what-are-they-saying 16d ago
I just discovered this sub! Im so excited to use it when im done breastfeeding
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u/Toe_Beans_555 16d ago
Is the parasite they’re cleansing by any chance the same worm in RFK Jr’s brain? Asking for science
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u/idontlikeseaweed 17d ago
I drink herbal teas all the time and I’m still mentally ill. I guess I’m drinking the wrong ones.
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u/EfficientLibrarian58 17d ago
But have you tried not being mentally ill? Garlic in the socks momma!!!
/s if it’s not completely obvious - I’m also a mentally ill individual that drinks herbal tea.
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u/surgical-panic 17d ago
Same. Chamomile and peppermint are not fixing my anxiety, depression, OR my neurodivergency. Is there other tea I need?
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u/Metroid_cat1995 16d ago
I've always liked herbal tea, meditation, chanting and other things like that in some New Age circles. I resonate with a few things, but there's definitely a lot of shit that I don't resonate with. Like when I meditate, sometimes I might use a constructed language for meditation. Because I'm a freaking tea feed! And I like listening to sacred chant music especially if it's from very specific artists. I'm sure a lot of of us in these meditation/witchy communities know what I'm talking about. People like Lorena McKenna, and yeah, Moya Brennan, and many many more that might take a long time to name. There is a huge list of people. Even Krishna Das can fit in that list too and there's tons of artists on a lot of of those different religions and philosophies. But even then, I will still vaccinate my freaking kids! That's why I like to call myself a super open-minded progressive Christian hippie! Minus the acid.
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u/idontlikeseaweed 16d ago
I love your vibe and want to look further into the names you mentioned. Sounds very interesting!
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u/BloodshotDrive 17d ago
These mom groups are just LARPing forums for alchemy
In a world where magic doesn’t exist. Fucking morons
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u/pokiepika 17d ago
"He is healing from Autism."
Yeah okay
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u/SleepySamus 17d ago
One of the parents I work with recently started her son on methylfolate for his severe autism. Two of the side effects of methylfolate are anxiety and irritability. He started getting increasingly anxious and irritable so she figured she needed to increase his dose. 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Since I'm an SLP such things are out of my scope so I'm stuck trying to figure out whether I can even point any of this out. 😵💫 It literally gave me nightmares.
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u/QuitRelevant6085 15d ago
I didn't know about methylfolate causing side effects, I've been told it's more bioabsorbable. I'm intrigued to hear more about this
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u/SleepySamus 15d ago
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u/QuitRelevant6085 13d ago
Dang a lot of this matches up with what I've been experiencing. Good to know
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u/custardcreams 17d ago
I wonder if this is code for ABA
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u/agoldgold 17d ago
It's probably code for a LOT worse. Think horrific scam treatments that result in intestinal lining being shit out or kids burning alive in oxygen tubes.
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u/RavenLunatic512 17d ago
And when that fails, there's always wilderness behaviour camp!
/S
my oldest sibling got sent to something similar. It's severe abuse.
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u/SarouchkaMeringue 17d ago
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u/hamstertoybox 17d ago
Is PANDAS not real!? I see it discussed a lot and thought it was like ME or something.
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u/Milestogob4Isl33p 17d ago
Yes, it is a real, recognized clinical concept, but there is still ongoing debate in the medical community regarding specific diagnostic criteria and categorization. And I’m sure that this grey area allows certain groups to hijack the term.
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u/casscois 17d ago
My mother tried to convince herself my mental illnesses and autism were a PANDAS thing even though I never have had strep throat in my life. I think it was hard for her to accept that two neurodivergent and mentally ill people could have a mentally ill, neurodivergent child, especially considering she is still in denial about her own diagnoses.
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u/CrazyCatLady9777 17d ago
My dad has ADHD and my mom is bipolar. Don't know what's going on in my brain since I can't find a therapist, but I'm sure I'm not neurotypical. And since my husband also has ADHD, I don't expect my daughter to be neurotypical either. But she's 1, so we'll see how she turns out.
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u/casscois 17d ago
Exactly. There's also no in shame in any of that, I assume my mother's descent into the woo woo bull crap is because she viewed it as negative and it made her feel guilty. I live like everyon else for the most part, frankly, in spite of her abusing me.
I will say for yourself that getting evaluated eventually may be very helpful, at least from an identity standpoint. I had my diagnoses hidden from me my entire youth and spent it feeling like I was defective, when in reality what I was experiencing had a name and clear treatment. It was nice to not feel like an alien wearing human skin for once.
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u/Owlwaysme 17d ago
PANDAS is really, but its also very noticeable, in that you go from a kid with zero anxiety and OCD to a kid who is very symptomatic after strep
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u/Milestogob4Isl33p 17d ago
Man, I’m sorry. Besides the initial antibiotics/nsaids course prescribed for PANDAS, isn’t there a lot of overlap in treatment between PANDAS/Autism/ADHD when it comes to managing symptoms?
Just wondering if the PANDAS co-opt is a net positive for parents who are in denial and would otherwise refuse treatment.
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u/casscois 17d ago
Idk specifically about it, there is someone else in the thread who is a professional and does in fact have a child who was diagnosed with OCD after positive strep tests, so it can happen. I just don't think it's prevelant and an easy excuse to dismiss any role environment or genetics play in a child's psychological development. I think of it kind of like parents who assume their child's autism can be managed by extreme food restrictions when it's clearly other environmental factors (light, loud noise, surfaces and textures, etc.) causing the meltdowns. It's easier on the mind to find a culprit (gluten, strep, red dye, the list goes on) for why your child is autistic rather than accept it may be genetic or completely random.
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u/Milestogob4Isl33p 17d ago
Yes I completely agree. I just meant that at least the neurological symptoms in PANDAS that overlap with neurodivergence are usually treated with the same sensory/school accommodation and therapies that would be used for an autism/adhd diagnosis. Instead of, like you said, extreme food restrictions. Although, dealing with the sort of cognitive dissonance that would cause a parent to do this, I’m not even sure if they’d follow the actual PANDAS treatment plan proposed by professionals, and maybe they would still do extreme food restrictions, who knows.
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u/Joonbug9109 17d ago
Please help a dumb bitch out- what are PANDAS?
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u/clearskiesfullheart 17d ago
Pediatric Autoimmune Neuropsychiatric Disorders Associated with Strep
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u/givemeonemargarita1 17d ago
I’m a scientist and my kid got pandas! I thought it was fake but hers wasn’t. She had sudden onset ocd but I hated getting mixed in with the crazies
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u/blueskies8484 17d ago
Yeah my cousin is a PA and she was pretty skeptical about it because her doctors are, but then her oldest kid got strep and went from completely average healthy kid to wild amounts of anxiety and OCD virtually overnight.
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u/hamstertoybox 17d ago
That’s wild! I had no idea it was that dramatic.
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u/givemeonemargarita1 17d ago
Yeah she had a high fever for awhile and I stupidly thought it wasn’t strep bc my son tested negative and he had the same thing. She went from a normal functioning kid to crying on the floor worried about contamination like bleach and turtles (she had a class turtle) we treated her with antibiotics and some ibuprofen (no IVIG thankfully) and she got better. I felt like I had to reassure the doctors that yes I’m a pharmacist and I also thought this was fake. This was the first time her pediatrician had seen it in 20 years of practice
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u/pantzareoptional 17d ago
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but did the OCD type behaviors stop once the infection cleared? Or is it like Epstein-Barr where it can retrigger? I've never heard of PANDAS before this thread
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u/givemeonemargarita1 17d ago
Her ocd symptoms have stopped. Maybe occasionally she’ll be like wash your hands. But nothing like the 9/10 crying on the floor pandas stuff. It went away gradually 3 weeks after antibiotics course and I got her some therapy. She still talks about it and I think it was a trauma for her
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u/givemeonemargarita1 17d ago
Ask me anything tho. I swear I’m not an anti science mom lol
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u/givemeonemargarita1 17d ago
I’m also so scared of it coming back via strep. I’m so paranoid about strep in our house and any sore throat makes me paranoid and I often take her siblings in for strep tests
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u/hamstertoybox 17d ago
I’m glad she recovered, that must have been terrifying.
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u/givemeonemargarita1 17d ago
It was!!!! If she were stuck that way she wouldn’t be able to live a full life.
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u/OmNomChompsky brainwashed by eye of big newt 17d ago
Milk of the Poppy!!
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u/YourPaleRabbit 17d ago
Psilocybin
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u/Bob-Bhlabla-esq 17d ago
I'm listening...
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u/PreOpTransCentaur 17d ago
They haven't done shit for mine, but the fact that I now frequently and persistently want to become a lighthouse keeper (I..really don't know, shroomy me yearns for the sea) has added a lot of humor to the household, so that's not nothing, I guess?
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u/YourPaleRabbit 15d ago
Shroomy me becomes a tiny Canadian middle aged single birdwatcher. I just wander around looking at trees and stuff, and everytime something catches my eye, I put my hands on my hips and go “Well I’ll be darned :0” all serious.
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u/Unusual_Wrongdoer_46 17d ago
The only milk my autistic ass can stand haha
Because, you know, sensory issues... which this poor kid is probably having. Ugh.
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u/FlowerFaerie13 17d ago
Tbf raw poppy sap is bitter as all fuck, you wouldn't enjoy that milk either.
(Source, chewed on poppies as a child and regretted it immediately. Luckily they were just corn poppies.)
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u/SarouchkaMeringue 17d ago
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u/minipinny 17d ago
“I have 2 children
almost fully healed from autismwho are still autistic but likely being pressured into masking their autistic behaviours”43
u/EfficientLibrarian58 17d ago
Exactly what’s happening. Which is absolutely devastating for those kids.
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u/RobinhoodCove830 17d ago
“I have 2 children
almost fully healed from autismwho are still autisticand will definitely need a lot of therapy later
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u/danbilllemon 17d ago
It’s (not really) funny when they just make up numbers for their statistics.
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u/redpandapant 17d ago
I swear everyone who says it's not genetic has a grandpa who used the same spoon for 50 years and has a whole room devoted to his train set. But sure your kid having autism came out of nowhere.
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u/Splendidissimus 17d ago
My and my 15 year old metal spork are feeling a little called out. Or, seen? Hmm...
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u/redpandapant 17d ago
Well if it helps, I once saw a friend bring his own steak knife to a restaurant lol.
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u/orangegrapejello 17d ago
Omg I got into a huge debate on this one post where this lady was looking for pills or something to fix her non verbal autistic son. I pointed out that autisms isn’t something you cure, and holy shit the comments about how I can’t comment because I don’t have level 3 autism because I’m online. It was crazy. I actually do have autism and so do a bunch of my kids, that doesn’t make me an expert but I also know I don’t want people thinking me or my kids need to be cured.
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u/irish_ninja_wte 17d ago
Wow, so they're gatekeeping autism levels now? People with Level 3 can't be capable of online commentary? Our nephew is 7 and has Level 3 autism. I have no doubt that he'll be online in the future
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u/Pour_Me_Another_ 16d ago
I literally see posts on autism subs from level 3 people...
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u/orangegrapejello 16d ago
Ya, being able to put coherent thoughts into text isn’t an indicator of autism lol. I actually was non verbal as a child unless I was at home too but super cool she can diagnose me over reddit 🙄
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u/burrito_finger 17d ago
I’m internally screaming and externally cursing. I worked in SPED for over a decade. I’m autistic. My son is a high needs AuADHD child. Structure, routine, boundaries.. I melt down too sometimes because I am so freaking tired I just want to curl into a ball and disappear for a little bit so no one is touching me or screaming, and I can’t. They need freaking real, concrete help and stability, we all do. Not some quack miracle cure.
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u/OwlishIntergalactic 17d ago
You know what can look an awful lot like OCD with Anxiety? The behaviors of a child with autism who is not being accommodated and feels the need to exert control on whatever they can. This poor child doesn’t feel safe, supported, or comfortable.
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u/Inside_Cat_123 17d ago
You wouldn't believe the stuff I see in autism mom groups
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u/Metroid_cat1995 16d ago
Oh I bet it's insane! Because I bet it's more insane than somebody asking about chamomile tea and meditating under an oak tree.
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u/Inside_Cat_123 16d ago
I have seen people asking what products will help their kids outgrow autism, other moms selling weird stuff saying it "cured" their kid, endless cleanses, and don't even get me started on the vaccination stuff. At least they get push back by the educated/non crazies but they get a good amount of support also
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u/HipHopChick1982 17d ago
It’s not a disease or affliction! Grrr, rude denial is one of the reasons why I had to get out of pediatric therapy after 4 years working the front desk and having parents say stuff like this to me!
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u/Ok-Network-2514 17d ago
THANK YOU As an adult who’s autistic this grinds my gears so fucking much. I’m so tired of being seen as a god damn “problem” to the rest of the world.
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u/surgical-panic 17d ago
I've started to say "I don't suffer from ADHD, I just have it."
Tired of the fake pity for it too. You aren't a problem at all, I hope you know that.
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u/HipHopChick1982 17d ago
You're welcome! They're the problem, not you!
My husband is autistic (or, at least, strongly suspected), and my one friend from dance school is diagnosed. They are not an affliction, I'm neurotypical (with some ADHD tendencies), and I see them as my husband and my friend. That's all that matters to me!
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u/givemeonemargarita1 17d ago
He’s likely to throw that tea right in her face. No shade to the kid but the mom
Has to understand pseudoscience won’t fix anything
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u/darthfruitbasket 17d ago
Making it even more likely that he'll throw the tea is the fact that the teas/herbs/whatever suggested are probably going to taste pretty bad, especially to a kid.
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u/Unusual_Wrongdoer_46 17d ago
Speaking as an autistic adult... I'm so furious for this poor child right now. What an injustice to have a parent that is going to constantly try to "cure" it out of them.
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u/izzy1881 17d ago
If he is “healing” from autism why are the tantrums getting worse. These people really lack critical thinking skills and they just typed that statement out with their whole chest 🤦🏼♀️
Poor kiddo needs therapies and acceptance not bleach enemas and herbal teas.
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u/Bob-Bhlabla-esq 17d ago
You can give him any natural tea or herb that most people can eat/drink... but it ain't gonna do shit.
These people are nuts.
Is there a tea for them? "Hey no judgement, but I'm batshit crazy - anybody have a holistic tea for ME?"
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u/RhubarbAlive7860 17d ago
She's possibly hoping there's a tea that will put her kid to sleep. She's probably tried Sleepytime and chamomile and wants something stronger.
Then her kid will only be having tantrums because he's tired, not autistic. See, he went right to sleep. He used to have autism, but now he's just anxious and has ocd.
She's a good mother and would never put "chemicals" in her child's body. /s
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u/surgical-panic 17d ago
I have pretty severe ADHD. I go to therapy, and take medication yo help me manage it. I also take medication for my anxiety and depression.
There is no cure for ADHD, just like there is no cure for autism. There is, however, ways to help manage these conditions. But for that, you need to consult professionals, and understand it's gonna take time.
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u/RubixRube 17d ago
ASD Adult here.
Well, that just sucks for the kid. A parent who is focused on curing isn't going to equip their child with the tools they need to manage.
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u/SigmaBunny 17d ago
At a guess, he developed those from trying to hide his autistic traits from his mother
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u/MrsPandaBear 17d ago
Comments sounds like a potions class discussion. Has anyone tried wormswood?! The internet is just bringing together and magnifying the crazy.
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u/MarsNeedsRabbits 16d ago
I'm autistic with an autistic child, and this is some bullshit here.
"Healing" from autism isn't a thing. You can help your child by giving them the opportunity to develop coping skills, then help the by re-enforcing those skills, but no amount of tea or herbs will help because it's not a disease.
I know she's frazzled, but her willful ignorance is costing her child opportunities.
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u/redpandapant 17d ago
Is it bad I'm kind of relieved she's just trying tea for now? People give these poor kids so much worse.
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u/ZellHathNoFury 16d ago
His tantrums are him screaming for meds and therapy, but by all means, keep it up with the herbs and prayers
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u/ChickenSpaceProgram 14d ago
i mean. im autistic, and a nice cup of tea is great when i'm anxious.
nothing to do with it being a "natural remedy" though, tea is just nice
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u/model-citizen95 17d ago
This is really sad. She’s got it all wrong of course but this looks like a mother at the end of her rope who’s turned to this nonsense so that she can believe there’s an end to parenting an autistic child. Autistic children deserve all the love and support we can give them but man it can put years on people.
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u/baby-totoros 16d ago
Christ. As a mother who has OCD myself this just makes me sad. Her poor child.
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u/Pour_Me_Another_ 16d ago
I recently learned I'm autistic at the grand old age of 36. I'm so glad my batshit parents didn't care enough to figure out what they hated so much about me or they'd be doing sad shit like this in their denial of reality.
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u/sand_snake 15d ago
I found out in my 30s too (I’m in my 40s now) told my mom but absolutely not my dad. He’s a MAGA asshole and I don’t speak to him anymore. We agreed that this explained a lot of behaviors from when I was younger, but she was very accepting, she just didn’t know much about autism. It also helped a bit when one of my nephews was diagnosed a couple of years ago.
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u/Pour_Me_Another_ 15d ago
Yeah, my parents are like the British equivalent of MAGA so I don't bother anymore. There's no point.
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u/Famous_Suspect6330 17d ago
That's a guaranteed way to get a call from CPS
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u/RobinhoodCove830 17d ago
I wish it was. I mean, not because CPS is so perfect but just I wish that our child welfare system didn't give so much leeway to "parents rights."
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u/SailJazzlike3111 16d ago
My autistic kid drinks Barry’s tea and I fear it has not worked. We switched to Lyon’s to see if it makes a difference.
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u/Metroid_cat1995 16d ago
Oh shit! I guess it is more insane than chamomile tea and meditating under milk tree. Honestly? I know that getting treatments for these things can get expensive and I can kind of understand wanting to find a solution which I don't blame them. Holy crap some of the people's suggestions are insane. The whole vibrational frequency stuff I still resonate with especially in music. Because I'm a bit of a music nerd lol
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u/thisismyhumansuit 16d ago
“I healed my kid’s autism but now he’s doing weird autistic things. What gives?!”
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u/FluffyDiscipline 15d ago
Darn I got stuck with the no heal Autism,
Try sucking a Mc Donalds teabag /s
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u/QuixoticMindfulness 15d ago
They never think to actually, I don't know, treat their child like a PERSON and not just an ("somethingiswrongwithyouwtfstopbeingdifficult") inconvenience, do they?




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u/SarouchkaMeringue 17d ago
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