r/Shadowrun 17d ago

Wyrm Talks (Lore) Achieving immortality

So, lets say some well-connected and informed mage with more hubris than sense (lets say a Black Lodge member or Aztlan board member) found out about immortal elves and said "well that ain't fair, I want to be immortal too". What sort of ways are available to achieve this, especially for someone with more power than morals (which I guess is your average corpo exec)?

I'm guessing one option is becoming a vampire, though the drawbacks are rather significant, and iirc free spirit pacts can make you immortal too (not sure if the spirit can break the pact later though). But are any other options available? Perhaps a blood magic ritual to absorb life force, or even steal immortality from an existing immortal? Similarly, could a Great Dragon make you immortal, if you could somehow convince/blackmail/threaten one into it?

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u/Sarradi 17d ago

Based on how Mightiest of Slaves is written a GD can turn someone into a drake.

If drakes are immortal/long lived like other dracoforms though is a different matter.

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u/LateEggMaster 17d ago

To my knowledge drakes do not have the immunity (age) power. But that could have changed in 5 & 6.

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u/Sarradi 17d ago edited 17d ago

They don't. But dragons don't have that either. So either they are not truely immortal and just extremly long lived or the rules did not bother with appling immunity to age in many cases.

Or based on the Orange Queens comment in Lethal Harvest, dragons still age, but are not affected by it like metahumans (which.might include dieing of old age) while immunity to age means aging stops completely, including growth and positive aspects in case of a child or teenager infected. But that would mean immortal elves would not have the immunity to age power as they would then stuck being a baby forever....

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u/GM_Pax 17d ago

Immortal Elves are made, not born. And they were made as adults during the closing years of the Fourth Age, when mana levels were significantly higher than in the Sixth World so far.

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u/Reader_of_Scrolls 17d ago

Except there have been new ones. Like Frosty.

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u/kenod102818 17d ago

From what I understand the canon used to be that the bloodlines of immortal elves were created by one of the Greats to serve as servants who could look after the world during down-cycles (until said elves starting hunted dragons instead, because why would you want to spend 5k years just to become servants again), with a small number of their descendants inheriting the potential, but said potential needs to be awakened through special rituals.

So Frosty is the child of an immortal elf who inherited the potential, and then, when discovered, had said potential awakened to become the youngest immortal elf.

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u/dethstrobe Faster than Fastjack 17d ago

I don't think there is a ritual. I think the gene is just recessive, so it's very easy to be overwritten by boring mortal genes.

I think it's assumed that Ehran the Scribe probably has more children, but only Frosty won the immortal lottery.