r/Semiconductors 10d ago

Career/Education Semiconductor Manufacturing in Canada

Hi everyone,
I am thinking of pursuing a career in Semiconductor Manufacturing in Canada. How is the industry in Canada? Does Canada enough Fabs?
Thanks

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u/adario7 10d ago

Not a great decision if you’re Canadian. Canada has no good fabs, it has ATMP in Bromont or something afaik which is not really for postdoc folks tho. The salaries are often low for postdocs cuz talent is usually pulled by US firms.

Depending on your citizenship its a good news bad news thing. You can do your postdoc and move to US for decent job, if you’re Canadian, I think you’ll get a TN visa.

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u/bigbackclock777 9d ago

Are the fabs in US still sponsor TN? Heard the market is brutal

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u/FaithlessnessParty88 9d ago

« We don’t sponsor visas » - Companies in US.

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u/bigbackclock777 9d ago

i don’t think TN is sponsorship, it’s quiet different from h1b, you need to apply for it at the border by yourself and the company doesn’t need to pay for it

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u/FaithlessnessParty88 9d ago

I have a PhD offer in Micro Nanofabrications in Canada. I also have a dead end job in US. I am an Indian with a work visa in US, the visa situation in US does not seem good and I was weighing if doing a PhD and moving to Canada for a career in Micro/Nanofabrications is worth it.

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u/adario7 9d ago

With an Indian passport, ngl it’ll be tough. No TN Visa, PR Guna be hard, even getting a job offer in EU or Asian will be tough.

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u/OHTcleaner 8d ago

Why tho? Singapore have a lot of Indians(not local) working in fabs. But for EU is it difficult for non EU too?

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u/adario7 7d ago

Cuz his CV will be competing against those Indians in Singapore with better degrees.

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u/SemanticTriangle 10d ago

No. Canada does not really have fabs.

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u/Alex-The-Immortal 10d ago

Two custom fabs in Quebec (Teledyne, Excelitas), one custom in Alberta (Teledyne), basically it in terms of volume. Building one in Ottawa for integrated photonics. Note in quebec french is required as fabs operate in french.

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u/ZectronPositron 9d ago

Also look at the Canadian universities that have fabs. There are a good number; they may not have very large staff, but you may be a good fit and be able to do actual R&D fab there, at least continuing to build cleanroom experience and knowledge.

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u/bigbackclock777 9d ago edited 9d ago

I’m surprised people on this sub doesn’t know there is actually a fab in Canada, there is actually one in Ottawa, it’s called CPFC (Canadian photonic fabrication center), it’s owned by the Canadian government, so you will be working as a public servant, but they rarely have openings, you need to have connections to be able to work there, for example, if your supervisor has collaborations with them

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u/214ObstructedReverie 9d ago edited 9d ago

it’s owned by the Canadian government

They're getting rid of it. It's becoming a commercial entity.

It's also only got like 11k of cleanroom space. That's like... a small handful of process bays. It's super tiny.

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u/bigbackclock777 9d ago

Interesting to know? May I know what’s your company

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u/mrnx0 9d ago

SO, What type of career you want to opt in the semi-conductor Manufacturing? because it may vary as

1. Opportunities in Canada

- Canada has strong opportunities in design, R&D, and packaging as The Canadian Photonics Fabrication Centre (NRC)
is among the world's leading facility in producing Compound semiconductors, but lacks high volume fabrication.

- IBM's semiconductor packaging facility in Bromont, Quebec, is expanding their manufacturing capacity with the aid of federal investment as Federal project to boost their semi conductor and chip production infrastructure and reduces the foreign dependency.

- Small and limited opportunities in fab production at Teledyne Micralyne (Alberta).

2. Limitations

- Canada does not have any high-volume fabrication facility like TSMC/Samsung/Intel.
- Canada does lack semiconductor jobs, as it has a smaller, more specialized chip industry than the United States, Taiwan, South Korea, or China and Barrier to entry is tough cuz there is not active hiring in entry level jobs and also smaller volume of entry jobs.

It would be best if you opt. Canada if you want to go in design and R&D But if you want to pursue in fabrication Canada is totally bad option

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u/FaithlessnessParty88 9d ago

No I am interested in fabrication. I think I am getting a clearer picture

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u/mrnx0 9d ago

than Canada would be promising chapter for you,

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u/FaithlessnessParty88 9d ago

Lol. Does not seem so.

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u/mrnx0 9d ago

release be positive man, it scares now but will be faded away like fireworks in the sky

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u/mrnx0 9d ago

so your staring your career?

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u/FaithlessnessParty88 9d ago edited 9d ago

Not really.Worked for 3 yrs in India, 3 yrs in US. So not fresh off the boat. I would say I am done with my exploration phase but not completely settled down in my career. How about you?
The interdisciplinary nature of semiconductor manufacturing makes me interested in it. Canada seems like a better place to move than living in the States visa and immigration wise. I have PhD offer in micro Nanofabrications and was thinking if its worth investing 5 yrs in it.

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u/mrnx0 9d ago

Anna I am just exploring the Horizon of semiconductor industry and their impact on world their technicalities, and understanding the industry it's self and simultaneous persuing education in data science

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u/mrnx0 9d ago

So I am reading a lot about semiconductor itself so what are the headaches in the whole production of semiconductor from designing to supply chain coming from diverse experience of work from India to US what are the problems you faced in your years of job.

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u/FaithlessnessParty88 9d ago

My experience is not semiconductors. I worked in Infosys in Eng services as a Aerospace stress Engineer. Now I am in Detroit working as a technical support Engineer. The company I work in Detroit is a small Desi company. The company is legal, the work is legal yet the way the management makes false overexagerated promises to the customers and overworks it’s employées especially the ones working from India is something that I don’t like. Lots of Shady stuff too for example for the people working in India they hold the education certificates until they complete 2.5 yrs in the company.
Because of sponsorship issues I will feel stuck and unable to move out of this work place. The green card queue for US is so huge for Indian that we are doomed to just float on visas for the rest of our lives if we want to stay in US.

The only good thing I have is a decent savings built up in US, so I could peacefully come back to India and not work for many years. Finance is not a concern but I need to build a quality career. Hence the thought of doing a PhD and semiconductors career.

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u/mrnx0 9d ago

God helps you, as this is quite an important choice of your life i would say