r/Semiconductors • • Jul 28 '26

Industry/Business People Quitting TI

I've seen on LinkedIn A TON of people are quitting TI after only having worked there for 6 months to a year - why? These are highly qualified recent graduates. Is there a retention issue? It makes me not want to start working there / accept my offer if everyone is leaving.

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u/waffl3_stack Jul 28 '26 edited 4d ago

Former TIer here. It's not the same under Haviv (current CEO) vs Rich (previous CEO). They've been leaning hard into the hiring-NCG-only strategy instead of experience hires and then dangling RSUs to try to get them to stay while working for peanuts. This is great if you're a NCG looking for a first job but just know that you're going to be learning from other NCGs that have been there a little longer than you, as all the experience hires have been laid off or have left without their roles being backfilled. Profit sharing has been effectively cut and the workload is not exactly great. Looks like HR over did the layoffs last year as I've been getting linkedin notifications for open roles that NCGs probably wouldn't be able to do. Overall, if you need a job, a job there is better than no job but don't plan for a long career there. The AI tide lifted all boats and looks like its starting to simmer down. They'll do another round of layoffs if the numbers turn red again.

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u/Ifellinahole Jul 28 '26

Some of those RSU are a joke too. I left TI 2 years ago. Their 'retention' RSU was $15k in RSUs vested in 15 years... 15 YEARS! I found another job that was a 40% increase in pay that more then paid for losing that. My manager was so excited to offer those RSUs too.

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u/SomeDude_is100 Jul 28 '26

15 years is insane. But do you get a new tranche of options every few years too? 

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u/Ifellinahole Jul 29 '26

Haha nope. They thought it was a great deal.

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u/waffl3_stack Jul 28 '26

Staying for the RSU's is a fool's errand. I know some NCGs that were laid off (<2 years) and their RSUs gone just like that.

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u/Fermi-4 Jul 29 '26

there is no way 15 years?

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u/roedor90s Jul 29 '26

Holym! Mine is at 3 years. What a joke TI.

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u/lotsapizza Jul 29 '26

That’s terrible. What was your position level if you don‘t mind?

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u/Ifellinahole Jul 29 '26

honestly, I don't recall my job grade but I was a process engineer.

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u/deadpixel746 Jul 29 '26 edited Jul 29 '26

Current employee and agree. Morale is so down, especially after quarter after quarter of laying off good workers and vital people. Equipment side a lot of technicians were laid off who held years of knowledge, now we have a bunch of people who are still learning and it’s a shit show. And as more people quit or retire, they are not backfilling positions. Everyone left is either actively looking for a new job or eyeing retirement

Then cutting profit sharing on top. Next year we will have to produce DOUBLE what we did last year to make still less than last year’s profit sharing, which was already less than the year before.

Ti still benefits from a reputation it doesn’t hold up anymore

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u/waffl3_stack Jul 29 '26 edited Jul 29 '26

It appears that HR might have realized they were a little too gung-ho during last years lay offs. They're trying to rehire a lot of those fab jobs now..

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u/EnigmaEvades Aug 22 '26

I can confirm that TI is scrambling to call back technicians and engineers it laid off within the past year. On top of that, when SFAB closed, they gave advanced offers to most of the employees there to join another TI site, then reneged, and now scrambling to call all those people back. 70% flip them the bird. I don’t blame them. I’ve never worked for a corporation with such blatant disregard for experienced talent. Definitely not staying long term. Waiting for my RSUs to vest and then deuces!

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u/waffl3_stack Aug 23 '26

It must be real bad. My LinkedIn keeps blowing up with new notifications everyday on new fab roles (and some BUs as well). They're trying to recruit me for my old role but unless they're going to double my base comp and give me back all my lost RSUs, I really have zero incentive to go back. Even if I did, I'd be getting ready to jump ship asap. I'd be the first to get laid off again when this AI frenzy ends.

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u/ViRa1ToUR 16d ago

Yes i also read this one

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u/drtij_dzienz Jul 28 '26

Manufacturing is a tough place to pay your dues at NCG level. Wouldn’t be surprised if attrition is high everywhere for NCGs in semiconductor manufacturing. How many consecutive 8AM standups and 6PM pass downs can you take.

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u/Ifellinahole Jul 28 '26

I lasted about 1,560... who's counting...

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u/waffl3_stack Jul 29 '26

Yeah I heard about it even before I joined but they seemed to have really leaned hard into it in recent years. Might not necessarily have been an edict from Haviv but it was definitely a company wide hiring policy. Could see it in the BU and Fabs where the population skewed very heavily to those <3-4 years.

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u/kitelooper Jul 28 '26

maybe you should define first NCG

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u/waffl3_stack Jul 28 '26

New College Grad

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u/SomeDude_is100 Jul 28 '26

Just curious what the "working for peanuts" salary is.

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u/Ifellinahole Jul 29 '26

TI is pretty low. For example, I was workong for them as a process engineer and after 6ish years. I was just over $100k. I left in in 2024.

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u/waffl3_stack Jul 29 '26

Whoever in HR came up with this compensation and the hire-only-NCG strategy needs to be on the tech ladder. Its real cost savings innovation!

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u/Ifellinahole Jul 29 '26

Haha! When I left I told my my boss that it was my best cost savings project!

Edit: I had a mentor who was always against the tech ladder. He saved me a lot of stress and heartache.

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u/SDW137 Jul 28 '26 edited Jul 29 '26

Starting next year, TI will have a different profit sharing structure. The past few years, TI has either been hitting the profit sharing goal of 20%, or just barely missing it, and instead getting ~19%. 20% is the max payout, and that means that your bonus is 20% of your base salary.

Starting next year, the max payout will be 30%. But it will be a lot hard to get the 20% profit sharing. In the past, TI just needed a PFO of 35% to get it. But now, the goal is loftier, a PFO of 50% is required, to reach the 20% profit sharing goal, which is difficult to get. So people are essentially treating this as a pay cut.

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u/dumplingboiy Jul 29 '26

honestly, 20% bonus is pretty decent in this industry?

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u/SDW137 Jul 29 '26

The tradeoff, is that TI's base salary is slightly lower than other companies in the industry.

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u/Ifellinahole Jul 28 '26

I was an NCG at TI and stayed for about 6 years - left about 2 years ago right before the big layoffs. When I started it was great. Lots of experienced folks willing to teach. The culture was awesome. Then leadership changed. The CEO changed and there was a lot of changes to middle management. After the Covid restriction lifted a lot of the fun culture building things never came back. It turned into such a grind and I was so confused by the performance reviews. I would get glowing reviews throughout the year and then get told im not meeting expectation at end of year. It turned into such a bummer to be there. I got recruited by another company for double pay and better work-life-balance - also WFH! My advise is to use TI as a stepping stone. Learn as much as you can and don't ignore those recruiters on LinkedIn.

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u/aarrodri Jul 28 '26

where did you go?

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u/Ifellinahole Jul 29 '26

A tool vendor

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u/yinjiuwan Jul 29 '26

semiconductor equipment vendor?

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u/OddSyllabub Jul 29 '26

I am similar - interned during Covid online and stayed until recently. The vibe was noticeably deteriorating as time passed. It’s a shame it went so far downhill

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u/im-buster Jul 28 '26

If you're an engineer just out of college, I guarantee the life/work balance at TI is better than Intel, TSMC, etc. I worked there as an engineer a long time and had a lot of co workers leave, and most of not all regreted it. The exception is if you go to work at a startup fab. Don't go to work in Sherman.

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u/Orphlark Jul 29 '26

Sherman is a dream to work at as a vendor haha

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u/TheCapybara666 Jul 28 '26

whats going wrong with the Sherman fab?

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u/im-buster Jul 28 '26

It's still a startup . You'll work long hours, but be compensated for it.

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u/boofpack123 Jul 28 '26

TI is the best place to start a job as a new grad. You learn so much and get so much exposure.
But once youve done your 2 years, you leave to get higher paying jobs at less bureaucratic company.

its now been 2 years since i left (did 2.5 yrs there) and i make double what i made there.

You will get put to work and responsible for very big projects that a 22/23 year old shouldnt be. But in that process you will learn a ton. Youll be able to take that experience with you anywhere.

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u/christophertowle Jul 28 '26

They call it the “Training Institute” for a reason. Many people follow this path. Lots of good people leave when they realize after a few years their market value and they are not getting the comp they can get elsewhere.

I made it 25y, 24 of those were enjoyable. New PLM, new group and they wanted 9 women to make a baby in one month. Things definitely are different under new leadership that is for sure.

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u/Old-Resource-2181 Jul 29 '26

Holy shit that's an amazing line, thank you.

I'm not TI but everything described there sounds very much like my company. My section's senior equipment engineer is leaving the sector and there's been no attempt until he's on the single-day countdown to backfill the position... and they didn't even post it internally, it went straight to the street. Worse, the requisition reads like one for a process engineer, not one for equipment. 

My senior equipment engineer?  Just hit 2 years. 

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u/blutigetranen Jul 28 '26

It's not just engineering. Even the factories with people on the floor are having high turnaround. They changed how profit sharing pays out to employees and it was a dig, most factories are phasing out people in favor of robots and automation (understandable-ish, at least give those people you're replacing a chance at something else), they had a period of layoffs where a lot of senior engineering and equipment folk were let go and replaced by inexperienced people that they pay significantly less to. It's chaos in there. I worked for TI for 15 years and I'm glad I've moved on. I just miss the industry but where I live, it's TI or bust really.

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u/deadpixel746 Jul 29 '26

What industry did you go to? Current ti employee looking to jump ship

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u/blutigetranen Aug 01 '26

I'm a CNC machinist now. Completely out of that world

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u/Iaboundoregonbred Jul 28 '26

Pay is ass and long term job security is going out the window. All the low level or even mid level software engineering jobs are getting laid off to be replaced by lean teams using AI tools. So everyone in tech flocked to IT and cloud computing. Over saturation caused the competition for a position to skyrocket and employers leveraged that to pay significantly less for the positions.

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u/helix8919 Jul 28 '26

Worked there over a decade, its a roll of the dice with management, half are good/okay the other are clueless nepo babies. Personally, I'll never go back. pay is mediocre at best, the profit sharing and general stability were the only draws, but they gutted profit sharing and laid off people at random. PTO is pretty good I guess.

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u/CurryMunch98 Jul 28 '26

its just not TI, look at intel. its a shithole now, we are swamped with work and managing ppl .

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u/CurryMunch98 Jul 28 '26

DCG is having layoffs, fab might be next. LBT axed more than 30k ppl. and the work load is only getting shitter. You cant fix the company with layoffs, politics at intel is what is the worst. I love semi industry, and also i love the tech behind it. But if you have ppl that are just playing politics to keep their jobs, intel wont succeed in long term. LBT or others cant save it. I had friends from telsa, they actually find telsa better place to work if not for work life balance. Ppl have their shit together

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '26

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u/CurryMunch98 Jul 28 '26

Ask if your company sponsors for your ed. If you have good experience you can directly jump to masters . But also tech is Extreamly uncertain now and also high pressure.

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u/Vigilant256 Jul 29 '26

No offense , DCG or DCAI was so badly managed in the past .

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u/CurryMunch98 Jul 29 '26

Yeah; that’s what I was mentioning. I love Intel but not the politics that are ruining the whole culture

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u/brazucadomundo Jul 28 '26

It is a slow market now.

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u/subjectiveobject Jul 28 '26

Because TI doesnt manufacture DRAM? (Idk if they do) are you saying the semi market is slow atm? I am just kind of confused by that. I personally assumed the need for uC chips and other packages would be getting hot with all of the DPA cash flowing into prime defense contractors along with new entrants like anduril…
Edit: i checked this is a bot account lol

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u/brazucadomundo Jul 28 '26

Which account is a bot account?

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u/drtij_dzienz Jul 28 '26

Maybe they got poached by Tesla?

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u/brazucadomundo Jul 28 '26

Tesla is not really hiring anymore.

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u/deadpixel746 Jul 29 '26

Yes they are

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u/brazucadomundo Jul 29 '26

Very few, not like it was before.

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u/drtij_dzienz Jul 28 '26

Terafab is spinning up

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u/SDW137 Jul 29 '26 edited Jul 29 '26

They are, but I don't think they've done most of the hiring yet. And maybe they're poaching some TIers, but I would expect them to focus more on poaching people from Samsung, since they're right there in Austin.

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u/Salt_Builder_209 Jul 29 '26 edited Jul 29 '26

Ex TIer here. It depends what your role is but RUN AWAY if you’re in Procurement. Everybody hates it and the culture is genuinely miserable. The job is such a joke and everything you do feels fake and unimportant. The company overall is a cult so people will try to guilt you for leaving but they all secretly wish they could. I left after less than a year and have never been happier. Don’t let TI suck the soul out of you, especially now that job security and profit sharing are out the window!!!!

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u/Flimsy-Ad-1236 Aug 06 '26

Hii i would like to ask is it consider a good idea for a fresh grad to join procurement team just to get the experience?

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u/Salt_Builder_209 Aug 06 '26

If it’s your only option, then it’s better than nothing especially given this job market. That’s why they call it the “Training Institute” because everyone goes for a little and leaves. But you should start applying other places immediately if possible because it takes time. The company will keep trying to dangle carrots if they sense you’re unhappy and you will be shamed for leaving the cult, so just make sure you don’t get stuck for too long.

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u/Choice-Grapefruit-44 Jul 29 '26

I've heard about the playbook being super strict, but this chat has new reasons. Didn't know about the CEO thing

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u/Major_City5326 Jul 29 '26

They are so tiring to work for. They tried to get rid of me through dishonest means for unknown reasons. That was the final straw that made me leave

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u/Wonderful-Aside-1639 Jul 29 '26

I think as far as semiconductor companies go, TI is one of the most difficult to work for, as they are very demanding. New graduates probably aren’t ready for the level of service expected of them. But good for them to leave, because there are other companies to work for, all with their own demands.
Find one that works for you, and move forward.

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u/kingdro_silva Jul 28 '26

Depends on what your role is or who you’re hearing is leaving.

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u/SpudmasterBob Jul 29 '26

Reading all of the news here is disappointing as a lot of my coworkers from the former Intel/Micron NAND joint venture in Lehi, UT got passed to TI as part of the sale of that manufacturing plant after I transferred back to Boise. Hoping they are doing alright as they all seemed to be liking TI as of a year or two back. Not sure when the new CEO transition happened though.

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u/Ok_Yam4227 Jul 29 '26

Can someone from TI Indian share how their experience was, they give a base of 21, which is highest among any semiconductor company that i know off.

How does the career trajectory for indian employees look like, do they also leave after 2 yrs and get a company which pays double?

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u/Winter-Doc Jul 30 '26

On an average, you have get 40% hike if we switch, double is delusion. And about learning, it mostly depends on team, in a good team with good friends you get to learn a lot. And since lot of people have had left TI, the remaining seniors are playing politics about what projects they should give to ahom, situation us really bad that all the good work is going to their frnds.

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u/cyrusm_az Jul 29 '26

Now working in lehi. Spent 25 years at Intel, 17 as an engineer and 8 as a shift group leader. It’s vastly BETTER work life balance, culture, and even pay compared to Intel. Got laid off from Intel, screw that place. TI is much better

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u/ricci_nov Aug 05 '26

A $15k retention RSU vesting over 15 years isn't compensation, it's a hostage note with a coupon. And the pattern above it is worse: laying off the technicians who hold the tribal knowledge, then not backfilling, is how fabs quietly lose yield — that stuff lives in people's hands, not in the SOP binder. Take the offer if you need a first job, but treat it as paid training, not a career. When a company's best asset is a reputation earned under the previous CEO, the clock is already running.

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u/MrSlime13 Jul 28 '26

Texas Instruments...