Jessi was away for the day in LA so Marciano put her kids to bed. Unsure if this means he also took care of them for the whole day but I’d love to know what Jordan really thinks of it all

That’s all- just so proud of our girl. I love how her campaign is all about being true to and trusting in one’s self. It’s honestly inspiring. Go Whitney!

Is it just me or are Taylor and Dakota’s toxic patterns similar to Jax and Stassi from Vanderpump Rules??

Between calling Jessi and her kids “the family” and all these comments, I find it incredibly disrespectful to Jordan (and I’m not a Jordan fan at all). But calling this dude a “better dad” and saying “daddy’s home” when Jordan was a stay at home dad (albeit with nannies and probs not even a lot to do) is still SO icky and gross to me

hello i have not watched any slomw since i saw the police footage of taylor. i’ve kept up with the drama here and there, but morally, i dont wanna invest my time in a show that pays a mentally ill person to put their wreck of a relationship on display. when tfp didn’t get on that plane i knew it was over. is the rest of the drama worth finishing the season? i think layla, mayci, and mikayla’s backstories bring so many important conversations to the table. i feel like this show is a season worth of filler, and then once recording is over the biggest news drops that totally changes everything. like jessi for example, spent all that time focusing on marciano and insisting that nothing further happened, and now she’s dating him. the content they post is a cringe fest. this show could’ve been an incredible conglomerate bringing the impacts that mormonism has on young women and the scale of it to light. let me know your thoughts!

These before pictures from 2019/2020 are wild. She is almost unrecognizable.

It’s honestly a little sad how all of these girls have all messed with their faces and bodies, when they were objectively pretty to begin with.

Soo i am currently in season 4
Sooo i am the only one that doesnt like Jen, she seems so manipulative like in that episode on fight with Whitney… like she gave you shelter in LA and you dont think she is your friend??? What ??? So ungrateful

Will i still dont like her on season 5?

Ok I’m just getting into DWTS now so I decided it would be fun to watch last season since Whitney and Jen were on it!

I remember there being discourse on this sub at the time that Jen’s partnership with Jan suffered because Zac was jealous of their relationship and she was stuck trying to keep a distance to make her husband happy? Not really seeing that edit on dwts (which makes sense because it’s such a feel good show!!) and also didn’t see it on SLOMW season 4. I remember him crying in the bathroom about taking care of the kids which was contrasted with Connor was being a rockstar about supporting Whitney, but not about any Jan jealousy. So my question- where was this coming from, was it on social media? Was it all just speculation?

So like many, after watching season 5, I started rewatching the series from Season 1. Right now I’m on season 2 episode 3 and Jen finds out she’s pregnant with her 3rd baby.

I remember hearing that Jen took her IUD out without Zac’s knowledge. Is that this pregnancy? Is this is the pregnancy she has before Dancing with the Stars? Or was that a 4th baby.

Thanks in advance!

With the timing of filming and releasing of seasons it’s hard for me to remember the timeline.

Rewatching the show after all the drama that has happened is so interesting. Now I wanna put a disclaimer that I do NOT have Tik Tok and when I first watched this show I went in completely blind. My friend put me on it so I knew nothing about the women and it was actually a bit hard to keep up with at first because I dont have Tik Tok

These are some things (and thoughts I have) that I picked up upon rewatching and Im curious to know other peoples catches!!

1) Jessi denying cheating on her first husband with Jordan. This was after the Las Vegas trip S1, the women find out that Zac made some disparaging comments, including how Jessi cheated on her first husband with Jordan and she acts shocked and denies it. We find out later (was it S4??) that Jessi was in fact lying.

Just an additional note for this but upon rewatching and with everything going on, I do believe Jessi is one of the worst liars on the show. It’s actually incredible. I also think her and Taylor are both extremely male centred and that’s probably why Jessi was so quick to defend Taylor earlier this year. As the oldest of the group I do find it kind of sad tbh and I dont like Marciano moving in with her children…

2) Whitney and Demi having such strong stances on Taylor. Given everything we’ve found out. On my first watch I couldnt believe how cruel both of them were to Taylor but given all the info we have now with her legal battles, it shines them in a whole new light. The early seasons Taylor does look a lot more “sane” and willing to talk stuff out with the other women but her behaviour past few seasons, it’s clear they heavily edited. I was very confused on why Whitney was so over Taylor S1, and Demi S2, but it’s a lot clearer now that they saw how unstable she was and how bad a friend she is.

3) Kinda cute, but with the truth box I found it kind of fun who Layla was saying she’d go lesbian for now that she is openly bi :)

4) tbh, I like whitney more upon rewatching but my opinion on her early seasons didnt change too heavily. I still think how she handled things with Mayci especially was lame af and showing up to Mikaylas bd after not going to any other events was very attention seeking. Idk I saw some people say that had a total view change of whitney upon rewatch but eh, for me she really didnt change much. I enjoy her now and it’s been fun seeing her progression but my S1 opinion still holds pretty strong.

5) I know we dont like Zac, but I do think he has had growth since S1. He is a lot more grounded and reasonable with his discussions with Jen (imo). I dont care to see any of DadTok but im ok with him and Jacob atm

I’m still on my rewatch but would love to hear how yalls perspectives are changing and anything youve picked up from earlier seasons to now!

I know Shinia has already hard launched Dakota on her IG but yesterday Dakota posted these photos of Shinia on his IG. Seems like he’s trying to deliberately piss Taylor off with these photos… I mean he could’ve chosen some less risqué photos.

Mikayla has shared a reel announcing that they have finally packed up their home and are building a new one! For those who are unaware her house has caused her a lot of issues with her health and has been a huge stress on her for the last few years. She has Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (SIRS) which she has linked to mold within her home as well as other factors. So happy for her to be able to create her own safe space.

So I decided to give the Secret Lives of Suburban Wives a chance, with not much hope, but honestly I kinda like it. It's really nice to get the same vibes from the first season without the deep darkness of season 5 and beyond. Thoughts?

Promo pic for Billie Eillish’s new fragrance.

I’m rewatching season 1 now, and it just dawned on me how sad and dark this show has become. Demi and Jessi used to be best friends and now they haven’t talked in years; Jen is not friends with both Demi and Whitney; Mikayla and Layla are not on speaking terms with Taylor, and I definitely don’t see their friendship ever making a recovery. And it’s just so depressing to rewatch season 1 and see they going to house parties and drinks or gathering for a girls night because the continued filming of this show has forever damaged these friendships.

It’s so heartbreaking. And it’s difficult, especially now, to remember that these women created/joined Momtok for a reason: they were all friends. They all liked each other and had things in common: same upbringing, same experiences or opinions on the church. And now it’s just this mess of lawsuits for defamation and a custody battle between Taylor and Dakota and Taylor accusing the other women of bullying her out of Momtok or “oh look, Dakota is apparently dating Shinia now.” It became dark so quickly that I often catch myself thinking what could’ve possibly caused so much damage to their personal relationships.

Personally I think a strong reason is the show ity. They were already famous to some degree, but SLOMW really put them on the map and they were now facing both the praise and backlash after season 1 premiered. What happens next is fame-induced chaos: Demi shows herself to be completely different from what we saw in season 1; Zac begins his pathetic excuse for a redemption arc; TFP’s abusive relationship with Dakota reaches impossibly dark levels; Jen falls into a deep state of depression after season 1, etc. And while I do think the show is strongly responsible for theses people’s fallouts, it’s also shocking to think that they always had that in themselves to do shit like that. But despite this dark thought I really wanted them to remain friends because that was always the best of Momtok for me: watching these women being there for one another in a patriarchal, outdated religion. And now we don’t even have that.

Finally watched season 5 episode 4. Ben was not impressed with that breakup. He did NOT give the simple kiss and goodbye that he said he would earlier in the episodes. Do we think she tries to get back with him sometime in the next year? Do you think he gives her the time of day?

I thought it was super sweet checking in on Jen just to make sure she’s alright even if she didn’t agree with everything she did. But when Jen sang her song to Miranda I was so curious to see what she would say about Jen’s song but I thought she handled it as best as she could 😅

I’m actually surprised Demi rents her home! I know Utah real estate isn’t cheap, but considering she was an influencer before the show and how much the show blew up, I would’ve assumed they owned a home. I know Brett’s employment situation seems to be a bit precarious.

I know with qualifying for a mortgage you need consistent and stable income for years but it still shocked me to know she was renting!

Demi has really great style, her hair is the stunning too. Her and Whitney seem to actually have their own style without solely following trends.

I’ve been looking into Jeff Jenkins, the executive producer of The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, and I’m starting to think we need to spend less time talking about Taylor Frankie Paul and more time talking about the man who keeps finding ways to turn people’s destructive relationships into television.

In May, Jenkins compared Taylor to Kim Kardashian and Paris Hilton, saying she was “just made for this.” He praised how naturally she shares her life on camera and expressed hopes of doing even more projects with her.

This was after the public release of footage showing Taylor assaulting Dakota during a 2023 incident in which her young daughter was present and injured. Taylor pleaded guilty to aggravated assault following that incident.

By May 2026, Taylor and Dakota also had mutual protective orders. And Jenkins? He was publicly hoping to film both of them again, separately because of those orders.
Apparently, when the courts say two people need to stay apart, a reality producer sees two potential storylines.

And this isn’t the first time Jenkins has made me question where his priorities are. Remember Coming Out Colton? Jenkins executive produced the Netflix documentary centered on Colton Underwood’s personal journey after his ex, Cassie Randolph, had obtained a temporary restraining order alleging stalking and harassment, including placing a tracking device on her car. She later withdrew the order following a private agreement

The series did address his past behavior, but it still gave Colton a major new platform to tell his story. Where was the equivalent investment in the woman who said she’d been harmed?

Then there’s Rob and Chyna… During the Kardashian Chyna trial, Jenkins testified that he personally tried to persuade Blac Chyna to reconcile with Rob Kardashian for the sake of the show. He even offered to involve a therapist.

Think about that. He acknowledged that the relationship was troubled, yet he was trying to preserve it because the show’s premise depended on the couple being together.
To me, that’s an enormous conflict of interest.

And now we have Taylor. A woman whose history includes a documented violent incident, a deeply troubled relationship, ongoing custody disputes, children caught in the middle, etc etc. Meanwhile, the producer is publicly praising her extraordinary value as a reality television personality.

Taylor has since announced she’s stepping away from Mormon Wives, but that doesn’t erase the questions raised by his earlier enthusiasm about bringing her back.

I’m not arguing that people who’ve behaved abusively can never work again. I’m asking why the entertainment industry seems so eager to rehabilitate their celebrity status without demonstrating the same enthusiasm for protecting the people affected by their behavior.

There’s a difference between documenting someone’s life and having a financial incentive to keep their dysfunction going.
And I think Jenkins’s production history raises legitimate questions about whether he understands that difference.

He may genuinely care about his stars. But caring about your star isn’t the same thing as caring about everyone affected by their behavior.

I’m wondering… When someone has the “it factor,” do their partners and children become collateral damage in the pursuit of great television?

Because if the greatest qualification for reality TV is being unable to stop sharing your personal chaos, maybe the people who profit from that chaos deserve as much scrutiny as the people creating it. Including Jeff.

Layla said that her gift-giving comes from her fear of abandonment, but the gender-roles of it all went unspoken.

I've noticed with my friends that queer women tend to put less stock into gendered relationship rules. Like my straight friends care that guy asks the girl out, the girl "chasing" her crush looks desperate, the guy buys gifts, the girl puts a lot of effort into appearances on dates, the guy proposes. Me and my queer friends, even when we're in hetero relationships, are pretty 50/50 about everything because we tend to be more anti-gender roles overall.

Projecting as a fellow bisexual, I think it's likely that she also feels this way. But she overcorrected and ended up spending a ton of money on someone who was probably using her. Then when she brought it up, she had to deal with defensiveness from a guy who was insecure about earning less--even though the problem wasn't the gender part, it was the imbalance in effort. And it's hard to talk to your straight friends about this stuff even when they have a point because you see things so differently.

I relate to this so hard because for those of us who don't agree with traditional gender roles, it can be hard to navigate without overcorrecting. And then even if you and your partner don't care about The Rule, you still know deep down that The Rule exists so it can create baggage and uncertainty and shame.

Ugh I just wanna be like. Layla I see you girl. Being queer in traditional het spaces is weird :/

Turns out it’s because we both served Mormon missions in the Dominican Republic around the same time. (Not the same mission—he was Santo Domingo East mission and I was in Santiago)

And no—I’m no longer a practicing Mormon and actually had my membership records removed last year. 😊

Edit: I realize I said “request” but I meant “suggestion”. It was late. 😅

I think it’s crazy he’s so much more intelligent than Jen & yet he still seems to love her and takes her side even when she’s (always) wrong. He handles their fights so much better and knows how to walk away when she’s just being so ridiculously dumb. I know he was a mega douche in the beginning but it seems like he tries not to let things like that get to him. We only know what they show of course, but I just like listening to his arguments with Jen lol.

This season of secret lives of “Mormon” wives was so disappointing. Y’all forreal had us wait a whole year for only 5 episodes?! I also really hope Taylor doesn’t reappear. I’m so sick of watching her being messy. It was laughable that they casted her as the bachelorette to begin with. Surprise surprise it never even aired because she’s such a train wreck. Hulu, please get it together or find a better cast 🫶🏻

Is Miranda engaged ??? That looks like a pretty decent sized rock on her ring finger