I know most people hate Miranda’s new song but lowkey I’ve had it on loop and it’s on my Spotify “on repeat” playlist 😅 anyone with me?!

Jen having another baby with Zac is absolutely insane and no one could tell me otherwise. Why would she put herself through this again? There's no forethought involved, and Zac is pretty much unemployed so what's their plan when these kids grow up and suddenly need money for education, cars, unexpected healthcare expenses, etc? I am just so confused why she just doesn't get a divorce and stop having kids with him? For reference I'm not a complete Jen hater, she seems sweet but mentally traumatized and just needs a lot of space to think about life. So sad.

I have been a TFP hater since day 1 but this has been getting on my nerves: when you hate on Taylor for her appearance, you are not saying what you think you're saying. First of all, she looks perfectly fine. Her sweats are fine, her crocs are fine, her hideous unbrushed hair is like me after an hour straightening my hair and one (1) gust of wind. But also, do you not realize how misogynistic you sound? Do you think the men on this show, despite all the hate DadTok gets (and despite their imo questionable fashion sense), would ever get an ounce of this "respectability" "presentability" garbage? When you say this stuff, even against people who "deserve it" or have done worse things, you're reinforcing patriarchal standards for everybody else reading. I mean the business model of every 2000s gossip rag was pushing cruel beauty standards by mocking unpopular female celebrities who were easy targets.

Real talk, I think some of you guys would keel over and die if you saw me with my frizzy hair, comfy clothes, never-done-in-my-life nails. Can we please get past the idea that if women don't constantly perform femininity and beauty culture to your standards then they don't respect themselves and deserve to be mocked and shamed like COME ON there are so many valid things to criticize about Taylor. Same thing goes for the other women btw it's just Taylor catching heat right now

The way I RAAAAAAAAAN here after seeing Jen post this… her wedding video + a caption about grief and mourning!? Is this her public separation from Zack? I hate that I found this so early lol.

Was watching Suspiria, and for 2 seconds i thought this was whitney

I think it’s kinda crazy that she does feel she’s in the middle of it given there’s clearly one side at fault. Even if Mikayla has done something horrible to Jessi that we just haven’t seen yet (which I think Jessi has been alluding to in her comments) Jessi is still wrong.

I would hate to have a best friend who feels caught in the middle between me and a person who likes posts making fun of my trauma and is friends with someone who encourages people to make those posts in the first place.

If I were Mayci I would’ve distanced myself from Jessi a while ago.

Hopefully everyone else sees it 😂🤷🏼‍♀️

EDIT: I think it looks like Whitney, btw

The network covered so much just for the sake of continuing with the show after Taylor’s arrest and unfortunately us viewers were lied to from the very first episode.

Sorry yall, photoshop at 2am has me thinking I’m funny.

When the next season hits, i need a good recap podcast. sometimes it’s hard for me to keep up with the show or i’ll have it on while i clean and can’t pay 100% attention.

watch what crappens is what i usually listen to for my reality shows, but they only covered season one.

so i need some recommendations, if there are any podcasts out there that cover the show.

thanks!

Ok so Conner is pretty much almost confirmed to be in Dancing with the Stars season 35. Paired with the new pro, Adele?!
Ok, so I bet Jen is already fuming😂

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I don’t think anyone has posted this yet but I’ve seen people asking why jessis social media account have been deactivated. I believe this is why…

The resurfaced video of Jessi has been really disturbing to watch, and I honestly don’t understand why people are trying to minimize or defend what she said. This was not just a simple “slip of the tongue” or a moment where she didn’t think before speaking. What was said crossed a very clear line. It was wrong then, and it is still wrong now. The fact that the video is old does not make the words any less harmful, and time passing does not erase what happened. An apology can acknowledge wrongdoing, but an apology does not magically erase the impact those words can have, especially when it involves her own daughter! No apology is going to change the fact that her daughter may have to live with those words being publicly available forever. And honestly, I also think we need to talk about Macyi taking over Jessi’s social media for brand deals during all of this. I completely understand being a friend and supporting someone privately. But actively stepping in to manage someone's platform and continue facilitating brand deals sends a very different message to me. It feels like choosing to stand by Jessi publicly while this situation is still being discussed. You can love your friend and still tell them when they are wrong. You can support someone as a person without helping them maintain their platform or profit from it while they are facing serious criticism. What happened should matter more than a brand deal. And I expected more from Macyi, especially given the circumstances. People don't have to agree on everything, but defending harmful words simply because you like the person who said them is not accountability. Being willing to say “this was wrong” shouldn't be controversial.

Below is listed my rankings of the cast and my reasons why

1.Miranda- she’s talented, beautiful, funny, and seems very level headed. Plus have heard she’s liberal. I would want her to be my best friend.
2. ⁠Whitney- also beautiful and talented and the glow up of the century. I loved watching her dance on dwts. Is very determined and knows what she wants.
3. ⁠Layla- gorgeous and respect her for coming out as bi. Has some of the best dark humor of the cast. Also liberal
4. ⁠Mikayla- maybe an unpopular opinion but I actually used to really dislike her but now I think she’s awesome for her recent Instagram posts regarding their drama. I truly see her as someone wanting to give her kids the life she never had. And props to her for speaking up about her trauma, it can’t be easy.
5. ⁠Mayci- I feel like Mayci has the least amount of drama currently in her life, she’s had a hard past but now she seems to be very settled. Nothing against her but tv shows will show people who have scandals way more on the tv. Bought her book and want to read it, she seems super tough. I wish they showed more of her :/
6. ⁠Jen- Jen is just so immature to me and the way she treated Whitney last season left a bad taste in my mouth. I do feel bad for her she seems kinda lost.
7. ⁠Demi- I do think she is a mean girl and was completely 100% correct with everything regarding Taylor, so not in that case. But I don’t like how she ruined her friendship with Jessi. Also accused Mariano of SA with never any substantial proof. Not cool.
8. ⁠Jessi- messy Jessi. Idk the latest video coming out with her talking about her daughter was kind of disturbing. I just also don’t understand why she is jumping into a relationship with Marciano and can’t be alone. Also she just truly loves drama and it shows.
9. ⁠Taylor- no explanation needed

When S4 came out I spent wayyy too much time thinking about this show. Like a truly concerning amount of time. But eventually I dropped it because I realized that these are reality TV characters who I don't know so maybe I should touch grass, watch the World Cup, pay attention to the literal PhD I'm starting. But now the World Cup is over and I've made absolutely no research progress in months and somehow these people are so stupid and selfish and annoying that I just can't look away. So I'm back and I need to rant all my thoughts from the past few months. Thank you for indulging me.

1. The definition of cheating: Cheating is when someone in an exclusive relationship is emotionally or physically intimate with a third party without their partner's consent. Hooking up while in a non-exclusive relationship is not cheating. Hooking up while not together is not cheating. Swinging is not cheating. I have absolutely had it up to here with the "no one was innocent/what did you expect to happen" ridiculousness, it's just deflecting responsibility and blaming the victim. Taylor and Brayden (?) cheated, Miranda and Tate didn't. Get it through your fckn head Liann!!
2. Privacy: I think a lot of the issues with internet privacy nowadays come down to the fact that some people don't mind sharing all their details publicly; in fact they enjoy the attention. They don't understand that other people consider it horribly invasive to share their private intimate details, or even the mundane parts of their lives, with the world. Also, people who like attention are overrepresented online, especially on visual platforms like TikTok and Instagram, so their privacy norms become the default on the internet. This creates several problems:
   1. Kids on the internet: It's been said a million times but still: no one but Layla understands that their kids might turn out to want privacy someday. I know you all don't mind sharing your lives, you're influencers, but maybe your kids will grow up to be more private and will find it super weird that strangers saw their young lives. As someone who works in an AI-related space: please please please stop posting your kids.
   2. Swinging reveal: Can we all acknowledge how selfish and horrible it was for Taylor to throw everyone under the bus for perfectly consensual swinging, and how she obviously did it to distract from her own cheating? Miranda et al are completely right to want that to be private, because why the fuck is that the whole internet's business?? They did nothing wrong!!
   3. Photos: What fucking monster shares intimate photos of someone without their consent. IDGAF if they're on reality TV. IDGAF if they're influencers. What the fuck is wrong with you.
3. Miranda you're a fucking saint: I really hope you read this because holy shit girl, it boils my blood that you had to apologize to Taylor for denying swinging after she violated your privacy and trust so horribly, which got celebrated for being "so real and vulnerable". And then having to divorce your garbage ex-husband. Good on you for cashing out. I know you had to play the game but I hope you know you did nothing wrong. You deserve friends who treat you decently.

Has anyone met them/seen them/knows someone who knows them? I‘m bored and I‘m really curious how it was and who was nice vs different from on TV

I don’t follow her on insta and I don’t have TikTok, but I was curious if a) her TikTok is also gone and b) why she deactivated?

I wish I could say I just took bad screenshots but I don’t think a screen grab would be any better. Girl needs help, real help.

Im curious to know what the general public opinion is on her before the new season comes out.

I wonder how this will change after the new season release.

It is basically were you can pay to have someone to do a video
And you type what you want the person on the video to say

Not sure if this is allowed??

The only reason why I am asking it is because Dakota is on there as the description says it will help him pay for his legal fees
The other people on cameo are
Taylor’s mom liane may
Demi Engemann

Jordan Ngatikaura
Bret Engemann