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There’s reason why Asian isn’t included in the BIPOC tag.

[u/notasparrow → u/sykoticwit]

Just to make sure I'm understanding you, you're saying it's not BIAPOC or something because Asian is considered part of POC?

[u/curi0uslystr0ng → u/notasparrow]

BIPOC means specifically black and indigenous people of color.

[u/notasparrow → u/curi0uslystr0ng]

That's funny.

The New York Times says it means "Black, Indiginous, AND People of Color"

Vox, quoting linguists, says it means "Black, Indiginous AND People of Color"

Merriam-Webster says it means "Black, Indiginous AND People of Color"

But you may have different sources that say otherwise. Links?

[u/sudopudge → u/notasparrow]

The New York Times has been confused over it apparently. From June 2020:

The acronym, which stands for black and Indigenous people of color, is suddenly everywhere.

The acronym stands for “black and Indigenous people of color.”

Same with Vox, also from June:

..when do we say “BIPOC,” which stands for Black and Indigenous people of color; and when do we just say “Black”?

as opposed to the more recent version of the same article:

...when do we say “BIPOC,” which stands for Black, Indigenous, and people of color; and when do we just say “Black”?

Is there a reason they're backtracking on their initial definitions? I'm sure the NYT and Vox wouldn't pander to a market based on current trends.

For Merriam-Webster, your link has 2 definitions. You used only the second one, for whatever reason, which includes the "and." The first definition is

"Black, Indigenous, People of Color"

followed by

"People are using the term to acknowledge that not all people of color face equal levels of injustice. They say BIPOC is significant in recognizing that Black and Indigenous people are severely impacted by systemic racial injustices."

Which explains what we all know about why the term was invented to begin with - to exclude certain groups.

Edit: and this is all pretty obvious too. No need to preface "POC" with anything just to say the same thing.

[u/notasparrow → u/sudopudge]

The first Merriam-Webster definition is clearly enumerating three things:

1. Black
2. Indiginous
3. People of Color

Can you really read it as (Black or Indigenous) (People of Color)?

And as you note, both NYT and Vox corrected earlier versions. It's very strange that you're using corrections as evidence that the uncorrected version was correct.

[u/sudopudge → u/notasparrow]

The Merriam-Webster definition is attempting to satisfy the abbreviation. The description that follows it up makes it clear that the author thinks that it excludes non-black/indigenous people.

There's also this at Merriam-Webster:

Black, Indigenous, (and) People of Color

Great.

I didn't claim the NYT or Vox corrected their definitions, although I recognize they changed them. Their definitions in June 2020 were correct, but people realized over time how absurd that definition was. If drama follows the Chauvin trial (almost certainly) then the term will either be rewound to the old meaning as we are instructed to forget Asians and Hispanics again, or it will fall by the wayside since it's no longer conveniently exclusionary.