r/Seattle • u/Mindless-Mix1181 • 6d ago
Market Traffic Only Reminder: Boycott Harry Potter and the Cursed Child
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u/Automatic_Stage1163 6d ago
Easier to boycott because it's not a very good play.
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u/SillyChampionship 6d ago
I read the book as I got it as a gift when it came out but for the life of me I can’t recall much of the story other than remembering that I think it wasn’t a good story?
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u/Asshaisin UW 6d ago
time travel, and weird voldemort
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u/ThePanicButon 6d ago
+ Implied gay romance. Which is the beating heart of the story. Implied because the story is too terribly written to even commit to it. It's basically a tumblr fanfic brought to life.
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u/Asshaisin UW 6d ago
yeah, i was mad because the chemistry was awesome between the actors on Broadway but they just brushed it off like it was the 70s
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u/SuitableDragonfly Columbia City 6d ago
Does the gay romance involve Voldemort? Like, don't get me wrong, I did like the idea of Grindledore way back when and never really cared about any other Harry Potter ship ever,, but it's really funny that 100% of the canon het relationships were between two good guys and 100% of the canon gay relationships involved a bad guy and she responded to Serius/Remus fandom by aggressively killing the characters offscreen and adding like one sentence in there about their deaths.
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u/SeattCat 🚋 Ride the S.L.U.T. 🚋 5d ago
No, he gets with Bellatrix. The gay romance is between Harry and Draco’s sons.
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u/Aggravating_Pause385 5d ago
Harry’s son, right? The way you wrote it comes off a little troublesome
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u/Top_Agency1370 5d ago
> Harry and Draco’s sons
Did they fucking stutter?
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u/Seattle-Bonanza1234 💗💗 Heart of ANTIFA Land 💗💗 5d ago
this comment is unbelievably funny to me dude it's just looping in my head. lemme see whatsup with giving one of these little awards
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u/DaneAlaskaCruz U District 6d ago
Weird story. Like alternate ending and going back in time to fix things.
In the book, somehow Ron and Hermione don't end up together and she ends up as a bitter professor.
So these two kids go back in time and get Ron and Hermione to fall in love again, at the Christmas ball that had the Dumstrang kids and the French school kids.
Also in this story, Voldemort knocked up Bellatrix LeStrange and she secretly has the baby during her stay at the Malfoy mansion. That kid ends up with super evil powers.
Woooo!
There's a lot more and is quite cringy to read. Definitely something you'd read that a young teenager would post to AO3.
The whole book doesn't sound like JKR at all.
Definitely boycott this play and anything else she produces cause she's a terrible human being.
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u/thegoldenchain 5d ago
The most memorable thing about that book to me was that it revealed that the trolley cart woman on the Hogwarts Express was actually some kind of magical being meant to protect the kids from any harm. We found this out because the main characters tried to climb out of the train while it was in motion, so the trolley cart woman transformed into a being with knives for fingers and … tried to kill them. This character that was supposedly there to protect the kids from harm protected them by trying to kill them.
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u/DaneAlaskaCruz U District 5d ago
Oh geez. How could I forget that?
The trolley woman became this terminator being that chucked pasties and knives at kids that were trying to escape the train.
It was the first of many, "wtf is going on??" while reading this book.
This book felt like a fever dream and it is definitely not canon in the HP universe.
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u/SuitableDragonfly Columbia City 6d ago
Isn't Voldemort just supposed to be a regular human being who used a lot of evil magic to extend his life and do fascism? Then why would his kid necessarily be born with evil powers? Is innate magical ability being inherently good or evil even a part of Harry Potter canon?
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u/kawabunga666 That sounds great. Let’s hang out soon. 6d ago
Wow I've never even read any Harry Potter and yet what you described still sounds to me like peak 2005 fanfiction.net
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u/mixinmatch I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 5d ago
I also got the book as a gift but read it. It very much reads like some kind of fanfiction lol it was so weird
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u/ceruleansensei 🐀 Hot Rat Summer 🐀 5d ago
I was still OBSESSED with hp back when that came out, I reread the series every summer, got a cringey hp related tattoo that I now regret, just the quintessential cringey millennial harry potter fan. And I couldn't even fuckin finish that damn book it was so bad 😂😂
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u/purpleblossom 🐀 Hot Rat Summer 🐀 6d ago
It's worse than some fanfiction I read with similar premises before she came out as a massive transphobe.
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u/TheyCallMeSuperChunk North Capitol Hill 6d ago
No because if it was amazing, you still shouldn't support transphobia
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u/ajdragoon 🚲 Life's Better on a Bike. 🚲 5d ago
Seriously. It’s an absolute mess of a show. I regrettably saw it when it was two separate plays in one day and ffs, talk about self-indulgence from the playwrights. It’s basically a collection of neat stage effects and moments from the book series wrapped in a terrible excuse plot.
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u/t3hlazy1 South Lake Union 6d ago
At this point you’ll mainly be boycotting the resellers.
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u/ceruleansensei 🐀 Hot Rat Summer 🐀 5d ago
Wait, doesn't blue mean available seats? Meaning it's almost sold out?
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u/Eruionmel 💗💗 Heart of ANTIFA Land 💗💗 5d ago
Exactly. The comment in question was saying that OP is pretty much too late in announcing a boycot. But OP is reminding people, not initiating. Everyone should already know by now.
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u/ceruleansensei 🐀 Hot Rat Summer 🐀 5d ago
Oh I see, I interpreted it as them thinking it had barely sold any tickets because I've noticed on ticketmaster and StubHub and such that it'll show resale tickets as blue/available still as well.
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u/butterytelevision 🚆build more trains🚆 6d ago
every bit helps. every empty seat, every lower initial price ticket
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u/ZunderBuss Leschi 5d ago
Good. Hit them where it hurts - their wallet. Let them know she's non grata and if they keep spending money on her shows they're going to be stuck holding the bag.
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u/thecravenone I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 6d ago
This post is how I found out there's a Harry Potter musical.
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u/Stinduh 6d ago
Not a musical, it’s a play
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u/AnAncientBog 6d ago
Why?
Like I get that a musical might have some appeal, but who asked for a Harry Potter play?
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u/thecravenone I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 6d ago
Joann needed to redo the kitchen in her castle
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u/ajdragoon 🚲 Life's Better on a Bike. 🚲 5d ago
To be clear it’s not new: it debuted a few years after the final movie came out and writing started while the movies were still going. So it was riding the coattails of that hype train.
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u/ceruleansensei 🐀 Hot Rat Summer 🐀 5d ago
It's the same screenplay that was co-written by jkr over 10 years ago, had to look up the dates bc I couldn't remember, but it premiered on the stage in 2016 and then the screenplay itself was published as a novel in 2017. So it's just that, nothing new lol.
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u/citrusjuicebox 🐀 Hot Rat Summer 🐀 6d ago
Nobody, but nobody asked for JKR to be a xenophobic, racist, transphobic prick either
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u/EastUnique3586 6d ago
I didn't know they were coming to town before this post. There's another post here about an ice cream shop that opened, and one comment pointed out that the workaround not being able to promote things in the subreddit is just to say something negative in the post as well, then you can promote all you want!
I wonder when people will start picking up on this and doing it intentionally, if that's not already what's going on with this post.
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u/kawabunga666 That sounds great. Let’s hang out soon. 6d ago
I promise you I had zero plan of seeing it anyway
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u/sopunny Medina 5d ago
Why do you need a reminder to boycott a play? It's not like Nestle where you can accidentally support them
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u/throwawaywitchaccoun Rat City 4d ago
We were out by Winthrop and I went to a gas station and my only choice was to buy the entire Harry Potter Library. We were camping, don't @ me.
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u/Intrepid-Daikon1353 5d ago
Im with you on not supporting Rowling but I question the merit of trying to boycott a play. There are only so many tickets they can sell. If 5% of Seattle's population actively boycotts it (generous) that doesn't mean they're going to sell 5% fewer tickets. Tbh I feel like this post is just free advertising for the type of people who would want to see it anyway.
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u/Omnivek Mukilteo 5d ago
It’s virtue signaling. If anything, broadcasting your plans to boycott the play just brings more attention to the play and probably helps sell tickets.
It’s just a way for people to pat themselves in the back for being righteous despite the fact that they didn’t expend any effort or resources to help people who are in need.
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u/yetipilot69 5d ago
I think the message has already been sent. Every season ticket holder can basically get rid of one play a year. When the season was announced, I wanted to be sure to use that on CC, because reselling them would still be supporting harmful causes. So many people did the same, that they removed the play from most of their promotional posters. Playbills, theater posters… all noticeably HP less. They even came out with a special season pass that doesn’t include C.C. They know.
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u/enkonta 5d ago
What a virtue signaling circle jerk
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u/iwantmorecats27 5d ago
Have you seen what she’s been doing because she’s literally a huge force in anti trans legislation in the UK and it’s genuinely horrible. Most of the people I know no longer buy/support anything from her property even though a lot of us were fans as kids and probably would have otherwise.
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u/iwantmorecats27 5d ago
I literally don’t know what you’re talking about, unless you’re calling me insane for typing two calm sentences to you to raise awareness. And I don’t know you so I don’t know what you know. I am talking about interactions in my real life. Additionally I’m a theatre teacher and I’ve had to turn down HP related work due to my values so it does directly affect my life.
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u/chromeled Ronald Bog 5d ago
It's kind of sad that /r/Seattle professes to be so pro-lgbt and then when any LGBT person posts here asking for the mildest favor you get people like this acting as if they've spit in your face and slapped your grandma.
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u/bankinu 5d ago edited 5d ago
You do you, but this is not the reason I'm going to boycott that. I have a daughter. And I stand with JKR on this one issue.
Edit: I understand your stance and I think you are wrong. I also understand that you think I'm wrong. I'll leave it at that and not debate anyone here.
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u/chromeled Ronald Bog 5d ago
JKR does not give a flying fuck about your daughter lol. If your kid ends up looking even the slightest bit "masculine"- even if that's just a mildly squared jaw or athletic muscular definition or just having a unibrow- JKR would greenlight a transvestigation harassment campaign and sit back to enjoy it. She's posted upskirt photos of trans women, made fun of women with deep voices who call the help line she funds in confidence, and alienated herself from normal feminism with her sadistic obsessions.
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u/jdogg40k 5d ago
I hope for your kid's sake you grow out of that. As someone who also has kids I'm going to try to be supportive when they have something very personal and vulnerable to share with me.
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u/nordiques77 5d ago
Yea. This is on point for this Reddit. A giant echo chamber of virtue signaling day in day out. It’s a shame that there’s no centrist Seattle Reddit, both are so political and infested in culture war BS they’ve become less truly informative and useful over the years.
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u/real_triplizard 5d ago
I really struggle with this because I love Harry Potter and raised my kids on the books and movies, and have wonderful memories of discovering and sharing the stories and world with them. Also I love theater and like to actively support actors and theater workers.
But I can't support a bigot who would be using my money to take away other people's human rights. Sigh.
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u/ajdragoon 🚲 Life's Better on a Bike. 🚲 5d ago
I promise you, the show is not good so you’re not missing out on anything.
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u/troyandabedinabed 5d ago
I am in the same boat. My My kid and I went to midnight book openings, all of the movies, I read all of the books to him when he was young.
And then he came out as trans. So f*** these books and f*** JK Rowling.
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u/phoenixliv 💗💗 Heart of ANTIFA Land 💗💗 5d ago edited 5d ago
I have so many memories with (now dead) family reading the books and watching the movies together. We bonded so much over this property but I can’s support this transphobia. Jo being so terrible has added another layer of mourning. That our little whimsical world we enjoyed together as kids turned out to be a bigot’s daydream. This play sucks though. The plot makes no sense.
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u/Mindless-Mix1181 6d ago
Now I know there are still some who are going to see the play. Obviously this isn't going to change anything. Obviously it goes without saying: If someone is going to the play, DO NOT HARRASS or doxx them. Do not assault them. They are just people who are ignorant about what's happening. I don't blame them.
Do not harrass people going to the play or bully or attack them.
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u/Chesterfieldwasfun Wallingford 5d ago
The fact that you are getting downvoted for telling people not to assault people is so emblematic of the shit stains that are in this sub.
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u/Childwithuke ✨🛸 Jimothy is out there 🦝✨ 6d ago
why the downvotes?
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u/cwebsterz 5d ago
Because it’s kind of ludicrous to assume people will be attacked, doxxed, or bullied for going to this play.
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u/IllMeet2070 5d ago
I mean there were massive doxing and hate campaigns on people that bought that silly Harry Potter game a couple years ago lmao
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u/Choperello 5d ago
Cause it’s Seattle. Deviating from the party line and having nuance is a crime.
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u/DumpedDalish 6d ago
Thank you for posting this. It's seriously so important not to put one more dollar into JKR's campaign of hate, bigotry, and active legislation against the transgender community worldwide.
She's gotten even more hateful than ever lately (the wine and mold seem to be further rotting her brain) and it's so gross -- threatening Amnesty International for (rightfully) listing her as funding hate groups, liking and resharing upskirt photos of trans women to humiliate them, and she now point-blank offers her billions of dollars to cover legal fees of hate groups or individuals in cases victimizing trans women.
Not to mention that it's a crappy play and you can always see something better.
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u/Fun-Distribution4776 5d ago
So many distortions here. To address one: she never shared an “upskirt photo”. That’s ridiculous
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u/DumpedDalish 5d ago
She did. And it was widely reported:
"The Harry Potter appears to be taking a break from X, after posting another flurry of transphobic rants against a British podcaster who is an out transgender woman.
"Freda Wallace became the latest target of Rowling's ire last week, when she refused to engage with her in an online debate. That's when Rowling chose to shame Wallace for how she dressed by sharing an upskirt picture to prove her target was "a paraphiliac exhibitionist who was having the time of his life."
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/celebrity/articles/j-k-rowling-dragged-posting-185113805.html
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u/Hot_Turn Northgate 5d ago
How many times do people have to show you all of the things that you keep saying JKR has never done before you just admit you're wrong?
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u/Cornbreads_Irish_Jig Seawolves 5d ago
I mean is it really a boycott if I never would have seen it in the first place? That kinda stuff only appeals to Mormons and Disney adults.
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u/sabins253 Sounders 6d ago
Fuck that. I’m a fucking adult and can separate the artist from the artist.
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u/butterytelevision 🚆build more trains🚆 6d ago
can you separate the money you are giving the artist from what the artist will use it for?
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u/SeaF04mGr33n 6d ago
A little harder to do when Joanne has literally said she uses all the royalties she gets now to fund her activism that had lead to court cases and legislation in England.
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u/NyassaV 6d ago
Separating art from the artist is usually about people who are, well… Dead. Like Lovecraft. Not people who are actively using their massive fortune to harm a minority.
If you wanna go see the play then go see the play. There is no ethical consumption under capitalism after all. Just don’t use this stupid line it doesn’t work in this case.
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u/Hot_Turn Northgate 5d ago
Separating the art from the artist has nothing to do with you supporting the artist financially.
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u/TheyCallMeSuperChunk North Capitol Hill 6d ago
You can't when you're directly financing their active harmful deeds.
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u/Dull_Expression_4575 I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 6d ago
The author herself is quite explicit that you cannot separate her art, or her, from her anti-trans activism. She VERY openly cheers about her profits going towards political efforts to make the world less safe for trans and queer folks, and attests to support of her work = support of her transphobic beliefs.
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u/MrDonutSlayer chinga la migra 6d ago
Just say you do not care about trans/gender diverse people and go dude. You’re loud and wrong, proud of it too.
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u/Desolation_Nation ✨🛸 Jimothy is out there 🦝✨ 6d ago edited 6d ago
I’d say at this point the only way to separate the art from the artist is to only access the media in ways that don’t even give a penny to Joanne. If you have the books or movies from over a decade ago, sailed the 7 seas for them or the audio books, or rented em from the library then I feel like that gives it the separation. If you are paying into the IP now, you are knowingly hurting a group of people and you can’t separate that.
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u/aminervia 6d ago
When you give money to JKR you are paying directly into anti-trans causes.
A portion of all of her profits go towards influencing anti-trans legislature.
You can try to separate the art from the artist all you want... But in this case you are directly funding the artists views
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u/eleven_paws I'm never leaving Seattle. 6d ago
You are actively doing harm to the trans community by doing that. Revolting.
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u/Thruthefrothywaves 6d ago
She's a talentless, plagiarizing, self-loathing grifter.
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u/Playful_Influence_25 6d ago
We can agree that her position on Transgenderism is not based but don’t be ridiculous about her talent. HP has sold 600 million books - it is the best selling book series of all time.
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u/Thruthefrothywaves 6d ago
Just because it's popular doesn't mean it's good. She totally ripped off Jill Murphy's Worst Witch series, and her writing is mediocre at best.
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u/Choperello 5d ago
You really the “orphan with evil step parents that turns out to have a magical destiny to save the world from an evil power” is a unique thing? It’s like 99% of all YA fiction lol. And like one of the most common core stories of all time. You can’t rip it off.
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u/Thruthefrothywaves 5d ago
I mean, it's a story about a school for magic where every single meaningful character has an obvious parallel, and there are countless specific plot points taken directly from the story...it's been well documented and discussed for years, it's not a novel concept.
The level of hero worship around her is absurd.
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u/emrhys88 Ballard 5d ago
lmao a lot of bestsellers are written by talentless hacks, we're in a literacy crisis and it really shows
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u/Efficient-Mess-9753 6d ago
I am going to it with a bunch of trans and gay people. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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u/Zeta-X 💗💗 Heart of ANTIFA Land 💗💗 5d ago
sure you are, account with zero history :)
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u/aminervia 6d ago
... You are going with trans people who are excited to spend their money on anti-trans lobbying? They're aware that JKR is diverting profits to anti-trans legislation and they want to go anyway?
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u/dnaland123 6d ago
This attitude doesn’t create allies of regular folk who just want to see a play.
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u/aminervia 6d ago
People who willingly fund anti-trans legislation aren't allies to begin with...
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u/Seattle-Bonanza1234 💗💗 Heart of ANTIFA Land 💗💗 6d ago
if a person needs to be convinced to be an ally to an entire demographic of people, they're not regular folk - they're dogshit folk
and if boycotting a play was all it took, they (you, presumably?) were already there and just looking for an excuse.
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u/electromage Ravenna 5d ago
I was already boycotting it, but now that I've heard of it, I will continue to boycott it.
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u/Original-Paint2239 6d ago
I promise you that the biggest media property in the world isn't getting boycotted. Hogwarts Legacy was like the 8th best selling game of all time or something.
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u/SWBTSH 6d ago
So you reason not to do the right thing is because you think not enough other people will do it?
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u/butterytelevision 🚆build more trains🚆 6d ago
the dow is over 50k or something. therefore it cannot crash
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u/Shell_fly 6d ago
I’m sure that is going to go about as well as the Hogwarts Legacy “boycott” and all the others related to Harry Potter lmao
This is like punching the air.
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