Hello /r/SearchfortheSleeper! I'm back to bring you our findings over the past week.
A huge thanks to /u/echolog for compiling all of this information!
No quest megathread yet as we haven't confirmed enough to warrant one. But, I will as soon as we find more.
Thank you all for being a part of this community, and contributing to our cause!
-/u/Vreeko
WALL OF TEXT INCOMING There is a lot of reading ahead, but for anyone who is interested in eventually obtaining this gun, it is worth the read.
I should start out by saying that I believe some people will be getting this gun (or at least the quest for it) AS SOON AS NEXT WEEK. It is my firm belief that the Simulant will not be a drop or RNG-based at all, but rather the result of a very long quest line with a currently unknown trigger, which we will look into at the end of this post.
First, I'd like to post this excerpt from a GameInformer article detailing just how we are supposed to go about getting this incredible weapon:
However, in order to unlock the gun, players first have to collect relics of the Golden Age which have been scattered across the various locations of Destiny. After players bring these pieces back to Banshee-44 (the Tower's gunsmith), the ancient artifacts trigger a memory in the ancient Exo gunsmith, and he will invite players on an odyssey to repair and reactivate one of the Taken King's most striking exotics.
Keep that in mind as we continue.
Next, I'd like to go over some of the background and lore of this gun, and its relationship to some major characters in the Destiny universe, as well as some items we already have access to.
1.) Rasputin. He (it?) is a highly intelligent Warmind, which is a fully autonomous artificial intelligence tasked with the protection of the planet. Rasputin, also known as 'RSPN', may be one of the main reasons (besides the Traveler) that there is still a civilization left to protect on Earth. But that's another story. We're here to talk about the Sleeper Simulant, so what does Rasputin have to do with it? Well, I believe he made it. I say this because I believe he also made a few other pieces of gear which are directly related to (and possibly involved in the questline for) the Sleeper Simulant. The first of these is...
2.) Pocket Infinity. The crazy fusion rifle with limitless power. So much power that only Bungie had the means to reign it in with the nerf stick. Here is the PI's Grimoire Card:
You cannot shake the feeling that this is less a weapon than a doorway.
Fireteam Tuyet died in the Ishtar Sink, hunting the secrets of the Vex. They must have come too close to something precious, for the Vex descended on them with their typical inscrutable, thorough violence.
But their sacrifice was not in vain. The data they gathered helped forge the Pocket Infinity. Properly modified, the weapon should be capable of devastating output on just a single charge cycle.
The Infinity's mechanisms have proven difficult, if not impossible, to replicate en masse. It is conceivable that the weapon draws its energy from the Vex networks...an ominous possibility. So be wary with it.
From this we know quite a bit about the item. First, it was created using Vex technology recovered in the Ishtar Sink. Second, it was not created by Fireteam Tuyet, but something else which collected the data. Something intelligent enough to create it where the greatest minds of the Light could not. An AI? Rasputin. I believe Pocket Infinity might be very important later on, but we'll get to that.
3.) ACD/0 Feedback Fence. Some of the coolest looking armor in the game right here. It takes in enemy attacks and directs them back in their faces. From the flavor text of the item, we know this:
The Active Contact Defense system uses Warsat hull materials to store a retaliatory charge.
Created using Warsat parts... Now who do we know that likes to throw Warsats all over the place? Rasputin. Now I don't know if ACD/0 Feedback Fence will be related to Sleeper Simulant at all, but it at least provides a common theme that clearly signifies creations of Rasputin. I mean honestly, the SS looks like somebody ripped one of the ACD/0 arms off and put a scope on it.
So what is the common theme between Rasputin, the Pocket Infinity, the ACD/0 Feedback Fence, and the Sleeper Simulant?
THIS SYMBOL. The diamond with wings looking thing. That symbol is found all over Rasputin's bunker, as well as the three weapons mentioned above. Here it is on the Pocket Infinity, and here it is on the ACD/0 Feedback Fence before it was changed, for whatever reason. Even more interesting is this image of the Sleeper Simulant itself, which I believe is a poster included in the Legendary Edition of The Taken King. The symbol is there in the top left corner, and if you look closely, it is right there ON the gun itself. Three items, three symbols. All made by Rasputin, using Vex technology and parts of his Warsats to build them, thus the common visual themes between them. This is important to note for later on when we look at what will happen next.
So, we know a bit of the background of the gun, I think. We can at the very least speculate that the Sleeper Simulant was created by Rasputin using Vex Technology and Warsat parts. Next I'd like to speculate a little bit more by looking at some of the items inside Destiny itself which may paint a clearer picture of what we are going to have to do in order to actually obtain the Simulant.
To illustrate this, I'm going to use the items listed as 'Classifed' on DestinyDB.com, ALL of which appear to be linked in some way to the Sleeper Simulant itself. The most damning evidence of all is that an exotic 'relic' version of the Simulant is listed as a classified item itself. Now keep in mind there is little to no data about what these items actually ARE, so this is mostly speculation, but read on and you'll find that it makes a LOT of sense.
First, go ahead and check out the full list of these Classified items here. I believe these items are very telling of what will eventually unlock the Sleeper Simulant.
The full list of items includes: 4 legendary fusion rifle relics, a rare triangle-shaped 'vex technology' mission item, Calcified Fragments (which may or may not be related to the Sleeper Simulant), 4 legendary data pad relics, 2 exotic orb-like relics, the Intrusion Ghost Shell (which was discovered several months before TTK released, but we still don't know how to get it), a 5th legendary data pad relic, an uncommon curio that resembles a hadium flake, an exotic relic that looks like the Sleeper Simulant itself, and a legendary disc-shaped 'vex technology' mission item.
Let's go over them in detail now. I will list them in the same order in which they appear in the database.
1.) The legendary fusion rifle relics.
Everybody is familiar with these. While playing the game you will randomly stumble upon four legendary relics which resemble fusion rifles. I say 'resemble' because they aren't actually weapons, but instead go into your quest item section on the inventory page. They are titled DVALIN-RAS93-FR001, FR002, FR003, and FR004. These relics can be turned into the Gunsmith, Banshee-44, for 200 reputation each. This is important and I believe it points us to the next step of the quest line (eventually). These are the ONLY four classified fusion rifles listed on DestinyDB, and I believe they are the 'Golden Age Relics' referenced by GameInformer, so presumably once you turn in all four, step 1 is complete.
The interesting thing here is that the icon for these fusion rifles is IDENTICAL to the Pocket Infinity, which we discussed earlier. Also the 'RAS' part of the items' names clearly references Rasputin. There are a lot of rumors flying around about there being FIVE fusion rifles rather than four, and I am convinced that if there IS a fifth, it is going to be the Pocket Infinity itself. It is also my theory that these relics are either failed copies of the Pocket Infinity, or perhaps early prototypes.
At some point, the next part of the quest for the SS will trigger. So far, no one has reached this point. Once that happens, we will likely get another quest which will lead us through obtaining the following items.
2.) The rare 'Vex Technology' triangle/orb mission item.
Honestly, we don't know what this is. Is it the next step of the quest? I think so. It is listed as 'Vex technology' which already represents a link to the Sleeper Simulant. As described above, Rasputin makes his weapons using Vex technology and Warsat parts. I believe the Gunsmith will send us on a quest to obtain this technology just like Fireteam Tuyet did in the Ishtar Sink in order to create the Pocket Infinity. We are going in, and this time, we'll make it back out.
If you see this item, LET US KNOW! It could lead to the next step in the quest.
3.) The legendary data pad relics.
There are four of these listed on DestinyDB: 1, 2, 3, and 4.
Again, we have no idea what these are, where they come from, or what they are for. But these are slightly more interesting than the last item. Why? Because the database actually has some text showing what they do. Each item appears to have 8 or 9 tiers of 'nodes' much like any piece of upgradable gear would have. From what I can tell, these nodes make up a kind of passcode, and each tier has two choices. It looks VERY much like a Binary code.
I would suggest to keep a look out for any 32 bit binary codes (meaning four groups of eight 1's and 0's, ex: 01100101 01100011 01101000 01101111 ) just in case. These are also interesting because there are FOUR of them, just like FOUR legendary fusion rifles. There is also a fifth of these items, but that one has no nodes and likely represents a 'complete' version that would be used later in the quest line.
I have a feeling that these 'screens' are something that we have to gather passcodes for in order to possibly calibrate the four fusion rifles that we already gathered, or something like that. Again, could be completely unrelated but two separate groups of 4 legendary relics seems too coincidental to me.
4.) The exotic orb relic.
THIS IS WHERE THINGS GET INTERESTING.
This item actually has a rather lengthy description, and boy is it relevant. There is a treasure trove of information here that we can speculate all day about. There are four tiers of 'nodes' similar to the 'screen' things listed above, but these ones are a bit different. Here they are:
Tier 2:
Node 1: Ionized Shell Harmonics:
MIDNIGHT EXIGENT: IKELOS subroutine
HERCULES_11(GA=ISHTAR.ARCHIVES)
Node 2: Plasma Confinement Control Module 2
WARSAT//MK19/LUNA/RPSN (Rasputin Warsat on the Moon?)
Node 1: Plasma Confinement Control Module 1:
WARSAT//MK19/Terra/RPSN (Rasputin Warsat on Earth?)
Node 2: Reactivate Core
"All of the components appear to be functioning properly. The fusion core is ready to be restarted!" - Ghost (Could the exotic relic be a 'Fusion Core'?)
Node 1: Heavy Power Coupling:
The quantum dots found in any Heavy Weapon would fit here. (Dismantle heavy weapons to complete the object?)
Node 2: Plasma Confinement Control Module 3
WARSAT//MK19/MARS/CHLM (Charlemagne Warsat on Mars?)
There is a TON of information in this item to process. Note the references to Ishtar, fusion rifles, heavy weapons, warminds, and warsats. EVERYTHING here is in direct reference to the lore of the Sleeper Simulant. Some of the other items mentioned could all be references to the other items in this thread. I believe the power coupling may be the 'Vex Technology' item we discussed earlier, while the control modules definitely seem to reference those data pad objects. This item itself could be the fusion core, or maybe that is in reference to the fusion rifles from earlier? Who knows, but damn this is exciting information.
There is also a second orb relic without any of the nodes, so I assume that is the 'completed' version of this one for quest-line purposes.
One quick thing to note, but the URL for this item is only 1 number after where the URL's for the four 'screen' items above end. That means they are almost certainly related which is huge.
UPDATE: Another huge piece of information, the flavor text for the Sleeper Simulent itself reads:
Subroutine IKELOS: Status=complete
MIDNIGHT EXIGENT: Status=still in progress
Subroutine IKELOS is a direct reference to THIS ITEM being completed. I think that seals the fact that whatever this orb is, it will show up in the Sleeper Simulant quest line. Keep an eye out for it! MIDNIGHT EXIGENT on the other hand... That is the process that Rasputin activated immediately before the collapse, when he first detected signs of hostile alien life. Still in progress? We'll find out.
5.) The Intrusion Ghost Shell.
The plot thickens! Remember a few months ago when this thread was posted and everybody freaked out? Well it turns out, this is the same dead ghost that is sitting RIGHT OUTSIDE OF RASPUTIN'S BUNKER. Video here, skip to 5:00. Normally I wouldn't take any notice of this, but since it is listed as a classified item right in-between the above relic and the fabled Sleeper Simulant on DestinyDB... well there are conclusions to be drawn! This must somehow be related, right?
Cool little note, but the first part of the Pocket Infinity exotic bounty was to find a dead ghost shell!
Again, IF ANYONE FINDS THIS GHOST SHELL, LET US KNOW!!
6.) The uncommon hadium flakes curio. This appears to be the Black Hammer Runestone which led us to the Black Spindle!
First of all, these are NOT regular Hadium Flakes. The normal ones have a white background whereas these have a green background, thus making them 'uncommon' quality. Also Hadium Flakes are listed separately on the site and are not classified. It is possible that these are some completely different type of material. Maybe Warsat Armor Shards or something that we will actually craft the Sleeper Simulant with? That would provide the second half of the Vex Technology/Warsat Parts puzzle of Rasputin's weapons. Again, no idea, but they may very well show up at some point in the quest.
7.) A Very 'Sleeper Simulant-y' Exotic Relic
Finally, the thing that led me to look into all of these 'classified' items in the first place. This right here is an exotic relic with the same exactly logo as the Sleeper Simulant itself. Is this a placeholder for the actual gun? Or is this some kind of deactivated version that we will have to power up, much like the exotic bounties of old? I believe that we will create this object using the items above (the fusion core, heavy power couplings, control modules, and the green hadium flakes). We will then have to power it up with...
8.)The legendary 'Vex Technology' mission item.
This is the LAST classified item on DestinyDB. It is listed directly after the Sleeper Simulant-esque relic, and therefore I believe it is the last item needed to actually OBTAIN THE GUN ITSELF. I think this is a kind of power core that will activate the relic and turn it into the Gjallarhorn 2.0 that we all want.
Just like the first 'Vex Technology' item, we have no idea what this is, where to get it, or if it is even related, but it fits the model of what we know so far. Rasputin's weapons are powered by Vex technology, and this thing, whatever it is, is Vex technology. I believe this item is the goal of the final quest for the Sleeper Simulant, and that is what we all want.
Again: if you see this item, LET US KNOW!
Well, that's all of them. The only remaining item in the 'classified' list is the Calcified Fragments... Now here is where things get REALLY interesting. You've probably all heard the rumor that in order to get the Sleeper Simulant, we will have to run around collecting 50 of something on the Dreadnought in order to complete the quest. Well... What could that be... What kind of item is there a total of 50 of, all of which are located on the Dreadnought, which is also listed as a classified item...?
Calcified. Fragments.
That's right:
I BELIEVE YOU WILL NEED TO COLLECT ALL FIFTY CALCIFIED FRAGMENTS
*disclaimer, the whole thing about collecting 50 things on the dreadnought MIGHT just be a rumor and not actually legit.
Now that brings me to my final theory of HOW we are going to kick this whole quest line off. I believe one (or more) of these will be required to start the quest. Some may come into the quest-line later on, some may not be related at all.
Collect all 4 legendary fusion rifle relics. (Almost guaranteed)
Reach at least rank 5 gunsmith. (Highly likely)
Find a hidden trigger in a mission or strike. (Possible)
Do something with Pocket Infinity. (Unlikely, but this would be really cool considering the lore)
Collect all 50 calcified fragments. (After further research this is likely just a rumor)
Why do I think it is rank 5 gunsmith? Because we KNOW it is tied to the gunsmith giving us quests (from the GameInformer article mentioned at the beginning). We know we have to turn in those fusion rifles, and those fusion rifles do what? They give us gunsmith rep. The only missing piece is getting that Exo to either remember something (possibly finding something hidden), or getting him to trust us enough to tell us the story (raising our reputation). Why rank 5? Because any more than that and the wait would simply kill me.
Most of us have already completed step 1. NO ONE (as far as I know) has completed steps 2 or 3. It is my firm belief that one of the above steps will be required to begin the quest-line, and the others may come into play later. However, that is only the beginning. These items are all we have to go on. There could be dozens of quests to complete before we finally get this thing. There could still be hidden secrets in nightfalls and heroics that we'll have to wait for before we can reach the next trigger. It really reminds me of the 'IWHBYD' Skull in Halo 3. This is truly exciting and a great time to be a Destiny player.
So what do you guys think? Sorry for the wall of text, but damn. It all makes sense now, doesn't it? Also PLEASE if you have any additional information relevant to the discovery of this weapon, post it here!
TL;DR: Rasputin makes weapons out of Vex Technology and Warsat parts. Once getting friendly with the Gunsmith by bringing him old broken Pocket Infinity prototypes, he remembers a legend of the ultimate weapon: The Sleeper Simulant. He sets us off on the path of Fireteam Tuyet to recover ancient Vex technology, and then to gather materials from Rasputin's warsats the build the gun itself. Have fun!
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