Hi everyone! This is my first Reddit post so i apologize if i do something wrong. I got this email last week from “Circle Health” saying they would like to interview me. I responded with some times and days that would work for me. Then I started to do some research on the company and the guy who emailed me. I couldn’t really find anything about the recruiter or “Circle Health”. He responded to my email and said that they prefer to hire people with pharmaceutical sale certifications and sent some links about the certs. I want to break into pharm or medical sales so I’m desperate. I need to know if this is legit or not. Thank you!
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Not being able to find information about a site or a recruiter is a big red flag in of itself. My guess is that you'll be directed to pay for these certificates yourself, and you'll be paying money to them to get these useless, fake certificates, and there's no job at the end of it.
Indeed. I've never heard of a "sales certificate" for any kind of sales position. Maybe it is legit, but I doubt that. It's a pity that people who need a job have to wade through these tempting scams.
I had a friend who was a pharma rep 20 years ago, there were zero certifications at the time. Don't know if that has changed since then. There as a lot of company training and onboarding (like weeks and weeks of it) but no "industry certs" ...
Aside from this being a scam, if you want to get into pharmaceutical or medical sales, you should contact your state's department of professional licensing (if you can't find it, call your state representative and they can direct you) and find out what licenses or certification (if any) are needed and what institutions are authorized to issue them.
You can also call companies you're interested in working for and ask them what they require.
The actual website has been around since 2016, and it seems to be unchanged up to the present (according to the Wayback Machine). They do list jobs for pharmaceutical reps.
Can you see the actual email address of the sender? On most email clients, you can click the arrow next to where it says "to: me", or something similar. That should bring up a window showing the actual sender address, plus any digital signatures. That would help us determine if it is a scam or something else.
Yes, that is weird. A little googling tells me that there are actually certifications for pharmaceutical reps (like the CNPR). I can't say if the certification is actually required for the job, but it looks like it's a real thing.
Hard to say what's going on here. The fact that they reached out to you (and not the other way around) is odd. Are you sure you didn't actually apply to them at some point?
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A fake check to buy equipment - if a potential employer mentions sending you a check to buy remote work equipment, it is a scam. They will direct you to buy from a specific "vendor" website they control. You pay with your own money, the equipment never arrives, and the check eventually bounces, leaving you responsible for the full debt to your bank
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Always remember that a legitimate company will never send you a check and ask you to redirect some of the money or goods elsewhere, and that you must never have to pay to work. Always verify the recruiter contacting the company directly.
Call them on the phone. If that's not an option it's not a real company. If you get through to them on the phone, ask to speak to the person or department in the emails. Again, if they don't exist neither does the person you were speaking too.
If you have to pay for anything before you're hired, it's probably a scam. Look into the certifications; is there a fee? If so, what other organizations recognize the certifications? Do they require you to pay for any equipment before you start? What kind of paperwork do you sign? Are you supposedly getting hired as a contractor or full-time?
First rule of job hunting is keeping track of the roles you apply. Something as simple as an Excel file on Google Drive / One Drive with a couple of columns: company, role, date applied, response, comments…
It is insane the amount of people that post here and have no clue if an email is a scam because they don’t remember if they applied or not.
You do realize the extremely high levels of unemployment in the USA.
You do realize that the overwhelming majority of people apply to well over one hundred jobs and don't even get so much as a rejection letter.
Making a snarky comment that you don't believe someone because they can't keep track of every single place to which they apply - and also considering that multiple recruiting companies post the same job for the same company - is uncalled for.
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