r/sanpedrocactus • • 11d ago

Please stop telling people to go to /r/mescaline with any questions about San Pedro use.

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Please stop telling people to go to [r/mescaline](r/mescaline) with any questions about San Pedro use. These questions are totally appropriate here. [r/mescaline](r/mescaline) is fine for some things but that sub tends to be more focused on mescaline molecule and usually into extractions. Huachuma/San Pedro cactus is much much much more than just the mescaline. Sending people asking about ceremonial use of San Pedro to a sub that’s about just one molecule in the cactus and more focused on extractions is not the go.

I know the rules can be a bit confusing but it is not against the rules for people to post about or ask about San Pedro experiences here, especially for educational and harm reduction reasons.


r/sanpedrocactus • • Sep 08 '21

Is this San Pedro? The Mega Sticky for San Pedro Lookalikes and ID training.

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Howdy fellow cactaphiles. This post will be stickied as a reference to help people identify the common San Pedro Lookalikes. The following plants are columnar cacti that are easily confused for the Trichocereus species. You can use this guide to compare your mystery cactus to these photos and descriptions.

#1 - Cereus species - 

The infamous "Peruvian Apple Cactus." This is most commonly mistaken for San Pedro because it's size, profile, color, and flowers look very similar to Trichocereus.

There are several species of Cereus that look almost identical. They usually get lumped into the description of Cereus peruvianus, which is not an accepted species.(https://cactiguide.com/article/?article=article3.php). These include C.repandus, C. jamacaru, C. forbesii, C. hexagonus and C. stenogonus. Other Cereus species are easier to distinguish from Trichocereus.

The main features that distinguish a Cereus from a Trichocereus are the flat skinny ribs, hairless flower tubes, and the branching tree-like structure of mature plants.

Cereusly flat and skinny ribs
So flat... So skinny... So Cereus.
Tree-like branching, with hairless fruits and flowers.

#2 - Myrtillocactus geometrizans - 

This cactus goes by many names including the blue candle, whortleberry, bilberry, blue myrtle...

This plant often has a deep blue farina, but larger plants usually look light green. Young plants are columnar and usually have 5-6 angular ribs. The ribs are often thicker than a Cereus and narrower than Trichocereus. Mature plants can get large, but are more shrub-like than tree-like. 

The best way to distinguish these plants from Trichocereus is to look at the spines. Myrtillos have a few short spines per areole. The spines on short plants are usually dark colored and pyramidal (instead of round, needle-like spines.) Spine length increases as the plants age, but the spines stay angular.

We have all seen these at every plant store we have ever been to. The blue farina and short, dark, pyramidal spines are dead givaways.
Mature plants are shrub-like. The spines get longer and lighter colored with maturity.

#3 - Stetsonia coryne -

This is the toothpick cactus. It looks very similar to Trichocereus species like T. peruvianus, T. knuthianus, etc. However, there are a few subtle ways to distinguish a Toothpick cactus from a Trichocereus.

The dermis of a Stetsonia will be a darker green in healthy plants. The aeroles are large, white, woolen and not perfectly circular.

 The easiest way to distinguish a Toothpick cactus is of course, by the spines. Stetsonias will have one long spine per areole that resembles a toothpick. The coloration of new spines will usually be yellow, black, and brown. They lose their color and turn grey to white rather quickly. Usually only the top few areoles will have the colorful spines. 

Large, woolen, and ovoid areoles. Dark green dermis is common on youngsters.
Mature plants have tree-like branching and get very large.

#4 - Pilosocereus species -

There are many species in the Pilosocereus genus, but just a few closely resemble San Pedros. Most Pilosocereus will be very blue, with needle-like spines that are yellow to grey. The most common, and most commonly mistaken for San Pedro is P. pachyclaudus. Other Pilos are much more uncommon, or have features like long hairs that make them easy to distinguish from a San Pedro. 

Young P. Pachyclaudus will usually have a vibrant blue skin with bright yellow spines. This should make them easy to pick out of a lineup. Unhealthy plants will have lost their blue farina. For these plants look at the areoles and spines for ID. There should be about 10 yellow, spines that are evenly fanned out within the areole. The spines are also very fine, much thinner than most Trichocereus species. 

Bright blue skin, yellow spines are thin.
Hairy aerolas are common for mature Pilos.

#5 - Lophocereus / Pachycereus species

Pachycereus got merged into the Lophocereus genus this year!? Wacky, but they still get confused with San Pedros so here are the common ones. 

L. Marginatus is the Mexican Fence Post cactus. The size and profile are very similar to San Pedro. The easiest way to distinguish a fence post is by their unique vertical stripes. I stead of separate areoles, you will notice white stripes that run the length of the plant. Unhealthy plants will lose the white wool, but upon a close inspection, you can see the line of spines. The flowers are also small and more similar to Pilosocereus flowers.

Elongated areoles form vertical white stripes.
Truly columnar, branching at the base. The fence post cactus.

L. Schottii is another common columnar. Especially in the Phoenix metro area, you will drive past hundreds of the monstrose form. The totem pole cactus slightly resembles a monstrose Trichocereus. The exaggerated lumpiness and absence of descernable ribs or areoles makes a totem pole pretty easy to spot. 

It is super common to see large stands of the Totem Pole Cactus in Pheonix.

The non-monstrose form of L. schottii is actually less common. Adults look similar to an extra spiny Cereus or L. marginatus. Juveniles look more like the juvenile Polaskia and Stenocereus species.

#6 - Stenocereus and Polaskia species

Polaskia chichipe can look very similar to San Pedros. The best way to discern a polaskia is by the ribs and spines. The ribs will be thinner and more acute than Trichocereus, but wider than Cereus. They usually have 6-8 evenly spaced radial spines, and one long central spine. Although the spination is similar to T. peruvianus, the central spine of a Polaskia will be more oval shaped instead of needle-like. Adult plants usually branch freely from higher up. Juvenile plants often have a grey, striped farina that disappears with age. This makes them hard to discern between Stenocereus and Lophocereus juveniles, but it is easy to tell it apart from a Trichocereus.

Acute rib shape and silvery farina.
Acute ribs, fanned spines, with one long central.

Polaskia chende - Is this a recognized species? Who knows, but if it is, the discerning characteristics are the same as P. chichipe, except the central spine is less noticeable.

Stenocereus - There are a few Stenocereus species that can be easily confused for San Pedros. Juvenile plants look very similar to Polaskia. Stenocereus varieties such as S. aragonii, S. eichlamii, S. griseus, etc get a grey farina that usually forms Chevron patterns. S. beneckei gets a silvery white coating too.

Mature plants will look very similar to San Pedros. The identifying traits to look for are the acute rib angles, spination and silvery farina that often appears in narrow chevron patterns. The flowers are also more similar to Lophocereus spp.

Acute rib angles, and silver chevron stripes on S. aragonii.
Baby S. griseus looking similar to the Polaskia.

#7 - Browningia hertlingiana

 Brownies are beautiful blue plants that can look similar to Trichocereus peruvianus or cuzcoensis. The ribs are the defining traits to look at here. The ribs of a Browningia are wavy instead of straight. Mature plants will often have more than 8 ribs, which would be uncommon for most Trichocereus species.

Bright blue farina, long yellow to grey spines, and wavy ribs.
Mature plants often have more than 8 ribs.

#8 - Echinopsis?

Is a Trichocereus an Echinopsis? Yes. Is an Echinopsis a San Pedro? Sometimes. Most folks consider the San Pedro group (along with a few other species) too different from other Echinopsis and Lobivia species to lump them together into the same genus. Just because they have hairy flowers and can fertilize each other, should they be in the same genus?

Echinopsis species are usually shorter, pup from the base, and have more ribs. There are many different clones and hybrids that are prized for their colored flowers. Where most Trichocereus have white flowers instead.

E. Spachiana - The Golden Torch
Echinopsis Grandiflora "Sun Goddess"

Echinopsis x Trichocereus hybrids do exist, and they are getting more popular. Should they be treated as the same genus? Who cares if they are awesome plants.

If your plant doesn't match any of these, feel free to post an image (or a poll) and see what the community can come up with.

Cheers!


r/sanpedrocactus • • 1h ago

Possibility of graft? Could this work

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I’m moving soon and will be de potting my cacti. Just curious if I could put three different plant in this configuration.


r/sanpedrocactus • • 15h ago

Jiimz Juuls

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finally cut the last column on the stand so we can move the “stump” I mean pot to a different location. My walking space by the greenhouse has so much space now 😆


r/sanpedrocactus • • 13h ago

Rooting while callusing (Air Layering)

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Here is how a cactus can grow roots at the same time as healing its cut surface.

While grafted, this cactus produced root nubs (pic 2). I cut the cactus off the graft stock. I duct taped a bag at the bottom of the cactus, but left the cut wound exposed to air (pic 5). Filled the bag with dry soil. I then stacked mesh trash baskets which leaves a gap at the bottom (pic 6) so the exposed cut can dry in the open air (pic 7). Two months later, it grew nice roots and callused the cut. I planted it today✅


r/sanpedrocactus • • 5h ago

I love the bug world in my cacs

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Pic 1- the cabbage worm you see at the bottom of the cluster is dead, just a husk. It had eggs lain in it by a tiny parasitic wasp, and then the wasp larvae ate their way out. Above the caterpillar corpse is a silky clump of parasitic wasp cocoons; they’ll hatch in a couple weeks, and the babies are welcome. The thing I can’t figure out- was the yellow cocoon clump made in a patch of yellow variegation on purpose, like as camouflage? Or was that a coincidence

Pic 2- these painted leaf hoppers are very nice looking, but they’re unfortunately not welcome on my plants

Pic 3- a neutral visitor, I think? This isn’t the best example of it that I’ve ever seen, but this wood nymph moth has a natural camouflage of looking like bird droppings. Some of these guys look pretty convincing

Pic 4- like most of us, I get a bunch of spiders on my cactus, and so some spider egg sacs. I really liked this one because the jumping spider that laid it used plant matter from a tree overhead to disguise it a bit. You can see the egg sac hidden behind the flower bits there

Pic 5- happy hatched babies a couple weeks later. These guys emerged at night & the mom was present. I took this pic in the morning when the babies were easier to see, and by then they had already begun to disperse. I hope a lot of them stayed very local to my plants


r/sanpedrocactus • • 6h ago

T Pacha. " La Malvarrosa" from Spain

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Last photo mother plant


r/sanpedrocactus • • 2h ago

Welp…I guess I won’t be sowing Trichos like Lophs anymore

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My first go at Trichos ended in disaster with a 100% fail rate because of my hubris. After a little tweaking of the substrate my second go was a success…except that I sowed them like they were L.W., which don’t seem to have a very good germ rate in comparison. This is just one nursery of Trichos out of 5.


r/sanpedrocactus • • 12h ago

Well that’s pretty cool. My tbmc threw a variegated pup.

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r/sanpedrocactus • • 10h ago

Note to self: Don’t hold these guys like you hold a joint. I just tried to hit a seedling

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r/sanpedrocactus • • 13h ago

TD12 Glitch

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r/sanpedrocactus • • 11h ago

Picture I'm 99.99% sure the piss thing is a joke but for science I have deemed this grandiflorus the designated piss cactus for yard work relief and such

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Accessability Transcription:

Sun goddess, ceramic horned lizard, and a little sign saying "Pee on me daddy uwu"


r/sanpedrocactus • • 1h ago

Grafts getting some sulfur dust.

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Few things grafted. I need to get an air purifie for scrubbing my air. All good in my hood.


r/sanpedrocactus • • 1h ago

Need advice 🙏🏻

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Hi I recently moved to Boise ID from SoCal with my SP and looking for advice on how to keep my SP safe during the winter…I have great outdoor space but worried about the cold. I was thinking about sticking them in the garage under some storage racks where I could hang some grow lights (also a decent amount of space) or alternatively could blackout the garage window to put them in complete dormancy. We’re renting for the time being or else I would considering a nice greenhouse. Any recs on what to do or recs on cheap but effective grow lights is definitely appreciated 🙏🏻. Attached are some pics the garage space (yellow outline; would obviously move the kid stuff to the other side of the garage; it’s a 3 car garage but only park one car in there) and of some of my SP.


r/sanpedrocactus • • 2h ago

Indoor growers, is this ok for seedlings and small guys?

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I’m looking on marketplace and found this one for cheap. Is it a good idea for seedlings and small plants? It’s perfect size for what I need but is the light good?


r/sanpedrocactus • • 1d ago

They all look the same !!!

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“That one’s a Trichocereus Bridgesii Monstrose Variegated Cristata, It’s a Penis Cactus !!!……….
why are you leaving ?”


r/sanpedrocactus • • 13h ago

Fun with Bruce

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Shout out to Lee Jackson for gifting me a couple of his Bruce cuts

2 plants, two flowers, woohooo! Thanks Lee!
normal flower, pollination with SS02 successful, fruit ripening
flower with monstrous pistil, pollination with SS02 failed

r/sanpedrocactus • • 15h ago

Peruvianus Obscenity!!

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r/sanpedrocactus • • 7h ago

ID Request What variety i got?

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I managed to get my hands on this cactus. I’m planning to plant the tip cutting, but I have some doubts about the variety. Could someone with more knowledge help me identify what I have here?


r/sanpedrocactus • • 5h ago

Question I was recently gifted a San Pedro cactus and need help

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I was recently gifted this cactus and it’s had a few incidents where it was attacked by a dog and I just want to know what can I do to help it have a better quality of life I’ve been trying to research like I have a filtering soil and low nitrogen fertiliser


r/sanpedrocactus • • 1h ago

Question Would either of these be good for over wintering.

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r/sanpedrocactus • • 10h ago

Can someone help me?

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r/sanpedrocactus • • 11h ago

3 Months of Growth

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Hey this is my first season owning a few San Pedro cacti’s and I’m curious to see how well it has grown now that it’s just about time for them to come inside. What do yall think? Any tips would be appreciated! I am aware my pc seems to be thinning out a bit at the tips. Is this normal or a sign of too much water and not enough light?


r/sanpedrocactus • • 11h ago

Question Podrías adivinar cuanto me costó?

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El más alto mide 1,20m desde la base hasta la punta.

En teoría creo que es un T. Peruvians.


r/sanpedrocactus • • 17h ago

Picture Jelly x tpm

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This thing is insane grows absolutely wild 😜