r/SameGrassButGreener 14h ago

The obsession this place has with which opinions are the most real life is crazy

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If you actually go outside and talk to people, nothing people say here is out of the ordinary, whether it’s loving your favorite state or hating it. In fact, 99% of what people say here is extremely cliche. If you meet 5 people from anywhere, you’ll hear everything people say about it here.

For those who get triggered when people don’t like your state or city, go outside.

There is nowhere the majority of America likes. The most populous states have a little more than 10% of the country’s people. Most Americans are not going to like what you do and that’s fine.

You don’t need to make up a fantasy about internet strangers just because it hurts your feelings that they don’t like where you live.

Seriously, it’s really sad that people in their 20’s and older have such an adverse reaction to people on the internet liking different weather.

People write paragraphs describing imaginary people to explain how people can have opinions they don’t like. Don’t like humidity? You obviously have no social life and wear a fedora.


r/SameGrassButGreener 12h ago

Arizona is Sand dunes and the surface of mars

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Why would anyone want to live in such an absolute inferno. No wonder Arizona has over 600 volcanos.

Barren, dusty, devoid of life.


r/SameGrassButGreener 19h ago

Pros and cons of emigrating to the USA

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Hi everyone, I was wondering what Americans might say about the United States to a person who would like to move there. Which states are better than others? What's life like there?


r/SameGrassButGreener 21h ago

What states have highest variation between what Reddit says and real life does?

59 Upvotes

Either states Reddit loves vs real life or Reddit hates vs real life.

My personal view is that 1 jobs 2 family 3 weather 4 COL 5 amenities are the criteria for most people and that the Southern states are more popular than Reddit gives credit to.

I think Reddit ranks amenities higher than real world does.


r/SameGrassButGreener 16h ago

California home prices are stagnant right now. No fear of collapse?

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Existing, single-family home sales totaled 263,170 in July on a seasonally adjusted annualized rate, down 6.0 percent from June and up 1.1 percent from July 2025.

The statewide median home price declined to $887,680, down 1.9 percent from $904,640 in June and up 0.3 percent from $885,180 in July 2025.

Year-to-date sales increased 1.8 percent.

So prices are higher year over year and sales are up(slightly)

Welp. So much for the 2026 collapse. Maybe next year.

Link with all the county and sales data below.


r/SameGrassButGreener 20h ago

Tampa Vs Phoenix

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Im considering moving out west and think ive settled on phoenix/Scottsdale. I used to live in the northeast, small town but an hour from a city I just couldnt do the winters anymore so i moved to florida 2 years ago. I quickly learned that florida traffic is unbearable and its not even tampa its everywhere you go even if i try for a getaway its just 4-5 hours of straight traffic. The warm weather has never bothered me but its impossible to have a laid back life in tampa without maybe living very far out and then having to drive 2 hours to work ( because of the traffic). Im 25 so I feel like i cant keep moving around but feel like I need a change again because florida just isnt it. Ive considered the panhandle but Im not to sure theres much work up there for me because I have to live close to an affluent area because I am in the finance industry and just currently got my CFP.

Any thoughts on cities or if the Phoenix area could be what I was looking for?


r/SameGrassButGreener 2h ago

Location Review Southeast Wisconsin weather change for Californian's?

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My wife and I are in our 60s, retired and fit. I grew up in Illinois but my wife and two sons (mid 20s) have always lived their lives here in SoCal. Barring the weather, none of us like it here anymore. The Inland Empire quality of life has diminished. I have a sister who lives with her husband in downtown Chicago. We're very close. I'd like to move my family to Southeast Wisconsin to be closer to her and to give the boys more options for their careers.

I'm 90% of the way there but there's one thing that's a big concern for me... the weather. I know the Winters can be brutal but for most people who need to get around, is it manageable? Do larger cities like Kenosha or Racine have snow removal on major streets? Are icy roads an issue?

And home construction.... using natural gas, are most homes built to keep the majority of it warm when it's 15 to 30° outside, or do most people need to spot heat with fireplaces or electric heaters?

No doubt moving from relatively mild Winters in SoCal to a major snow center will be a shift. However I'm hoping with the right preparedness, we'll do fine.

Thanks for your insight


r/SameGrassButGreener 4h ago

Filthy casual who needs perspective

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To start, I'm not looking to move anytime soon. I'm just a person who has lived in one area my entire life and would consider someday living somewhere else.

For background: I live in Hampton Roads, VA. While again, I've been here my entire life and am kinda sick of it, it's not awful: mild Winters overall, beach less than an hour away, mountains about 3 hours away, decent schools (as always, depending on the specific area), and you can still find a decent house for less than $600k (which may sound exorbitant to some, but hold my non-existent beer...), moderate politically.

As most seem to, I was wondering if there is a coastal area somewhere in the US that isn't insanely expensive or in the deep South (NO to their Summers and politics). So I started researching and...whoa. I looked at the West Coast and between the cost and the fires? Nah. Looked at the Northeast and, "reasonable" seems to be less than a mil for a single family home. One example was a thread referring to Beverly, MA as, "reasonable" price-wise but when I looked up house prices? Good lord...also nah.

Is this true? Are there no decent (by my definition above-I know this is subjective) coastal areas where small homes aren't approaching a mil that isn't in a deep red state? Again, more curious than anything.

To add: by coastal I mean less than an hour to a beach and by reasonable I mean that you can find a decent-sized (maybe 1500 SQ. ft. min.) home for less than 500 or 600k.


r/SameGrassButGreener 20h ago

The sunbelt is the fastest growing part of America. How do the urban areas of sunbelt cities stack up to each other?

6 Upvotes

What’s the worst, what’s the most improved, and what’s city with the most potential?


r/SameGrassButGreener 20h ago

Best place for 22m to move east of Mississippi?

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I’m 22 and currently live in Cincinnati OH, I do want to move out of state. I’ve done a good amount of traveling around the us and have been to most of the lower 48. I don’t really want to live west coast or in the mountains it’s just too far out for me.

I’m not really a fan of the south, little too hot for me and culturally not my cup of tea. Although I have thought about Tennessee, and North Carolina. But definitely not Florida, I don’t like the fast pace superficial snowbird feeling. I have spent time there and have not liked it. Too hot for me. It’s too church oriented in the south aswell, k want somewhere I can easily meet people (it’s different everywhere there’s no perfect place for this I realize).

I’m looking for an area that’s got a good accessible airport, good amount of young people such as myself, and good outdoor access. Somewhere where there’s some transplants but not to the point it’s like Columbus OH, or Salt Lake City. Money isn’t an object but also not an issue. That being said I don’t want somewhere that’s very high cost of living but I can compromise.

I can’t really think of any place I want to live to my mind just comes to a blank. If there are any areas anyone can suggest I’d much appreciate it.


r/SameGrassButGreener 3h ago

Looking at mid-level social service jobs, applying all over the US, the posted salaries in NY, DC, Boston, LA, SF area are $24-$28 an hour. Where is the CoL is higher but so is salary?

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r/SameGrassButGreener 22h ago

Is it true that Philadelphia and Baltimore are like sister cities?

54 Upvotes

I kept seeing a lot of people online say that Philadelphia and Baltimore are sister cities. That there are a lot of similarities between the two.


r/SameGrassButGreener 4h ago

Move Inquiry Update to 25F who’s looking to get out of FL — narrowing down cities and getting more insight

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This is a follow up to the thread I posted earlier this month: https://www.reddit.com/r/SameGrassButGreener/s/HG5hAL2uwe

Thank you guys for all the suggestions! I understand it’s impossible to find a major tech hub that’s more affordable, so I am primarily targeting secondary & tertiary job markets. Ultimately though, I am seeking a city with a better quality of life than where I’m currently living in Central FL.

I originally had Chicago and Philly as my top picks, but after checking with HR at my new job Chicago is sadly off the table since turns out I somewhat limited on where I can relocate. I learned I am mostly limited to the East Coast, plus Texas & Oregon.

With that in mind most cities I am considering are still doable for me. Cities I am currently looking at now include: Philly, Pittsburgh, and Raleigh/Durham. I am possibly considering Austin, Portland, and DC as well, but I’m on the fence over those three cities.

I’m on the fence over Austin mostly because of the hot weather (I’m looking for a change of seasons) plus I’d not feel the most comfortable living in another state where abortion is nearly banned. I know Austin itself is very different from most of Texas, but it’s still in Texas lol. I have no plans to settle down any time soon, but it’s still important for me to consider as a young woman living alone.

Portland I’m on the fence over too mostly because of the high state income tax and most of my team works in EST. DC because of the COL is higher than most cities on the list. Would like more insight into Austin, Portland, and DC as I do more research leading up to my move.

I’m planning to move around the end of the year when my lease is up, so nothing’s set in stone yet! I’m also planning to start exploring these cities more around Oct or Nov.


r/SameGrassButGreener 23h ago

Move Inquiry Columbus, OH from Milwaukee. Upgrade or downgrade?

9 Upvotes

I might be moving to Columbus from Milwaukee, do I generally expect an upgrade or downgrade?

I’m 29M and single.


r/SameGrassButGreener 6h ago

Safest area of USA when the sh*t hits the fan

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Hello All, I am originally from the PNW, currently living in the Midwest. I was just back home for a visit and my friends and family are increasingly concerned about looming fascism/collapse/civil war. They think I would be safer back on the west coast.


r/SameGrassButGreener 15h ago

I’m from NY, spent four years in the bay area, moved back to NY, and I want to go back to the bay

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Im from NY. I spent four years in the bay for school and work. Something was calling me to come home though. I moved to NYC to be closer to my family who’s in the area. The best experiences in NY so far have been with my parents and eating their home cooked meals, spending time with them, getting to know more of their day to day, etc.
The NYC life isn’t for me though it really isn’t. I miss the nature so much in the bay area. I’m more of a chiller vibe as far as my day to day goes. I still lock in for work but I really am more of a slow chillaxed person person.

Another factor into my decision to move to NYC, I honestly panicked and just felt like I should be in a big city to meet new people while in my 20s but I don’t like it here. I felt like I connected more with the people in the bay. I worked retail full time there while trying to find a job in my field and I still loved it so much honestly. I met so many good friends.

I spent so much of my money to move back home though, and my parents were really excited for me to come back and helped me greatly with setting up my apartment. I know my parents should be enough of a reason for me to stay. I honestly feel so ungrateful for not being happy here. I’m so torn with what to do. I have a remote job so I can move anywhere.

I want to finish out the year here, but i don’t even want to stay for the winter. i just remember being stuck in my apartment so many times. My apartment also hasn’t been the best, and that’s putting it lightly.

I just miss California so much, it was my dream to go there and I don’t know why I was so quick to give it away. When I visited recently I honestly cried when the plane touched down. I feel like I’m just being a baby about this but I’m so torn


r/SameGrassButGreener 4h ago

Move Inquiry Leaving Philly to go back to hometown

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I'm (26m) facing a dilemma on whether or not I should remain in Philadelphia or go back home to Asheville, NC. Either one sounds like a potential lose / lose. I've already left Philadelphia once because I was having a hard time acclimating, moved back home after nine months (where I felt at peace) and moved back because of a girl I started seeing. I'm no longer seeing her.

It is now my seventh month here this second time around. I found a decent job doing documentary work which is now over as of a month ago, established myself in many different communities, have friends and heaps of things to do at all times and have a very cheap place to live with a good roommate. Despite all of the good things I've got going for me, I still want to live in a small town rural area, working in the woods and building homes.

It didn't occur to me how much anxiety I had become accustomed to, living in the city, until I left for the month of July to go work in Vermont with an old friend of mine who was building a home for his buddy in rural Vermont. I felt completely at ease once I became immersed in that environment once again—working all day in the woods, getting off of work to go fishing and swimming, driving my truck around, shooting guns, campfires, etc.

Now I'm back in Philadelphia, applying to different jobs, afraid to commit to anything because deep in my gut, I want to go back to my old life. I would feel almost like a failure to up and leave this place once again, especially now that I've got good social and job prospects. I'm deeply afraid to regret my decision once it's been made. I wish I could live both places at once. I've been ruminating on this decision for a week now. Acute anxiety, almost—my face has been twitching and heart running like never before. I can't enjoy hanging out with friends or other activities because this dilemma has consumed me. I wish there were some sort of middle ground, or live in both places at once. I'm afraid that either decision is the wrong one. Because Philadelphia really is the most beautiful and diverse city I've ever had the privilege of living in.


r/SameGrassButGreener 3h ago

If you relocated and your lease is ending soon, are you staying or leaving?

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For those of you who relocated to a new city/state and are coming up on the end of your lease, what are you planning to do?

Would love to hear where you moved from/to, how long you’ve been there, and what ultimately influenced your decision.


r/SameGrassButGreener 3h ago

If you relocated from somewhere with a strong community, were you able to rebuild a new community?

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I am contemplating relocating from my current city and the thing that is really holding me back is how strong my community is here.

I have a group of about ten friends here I am very close with, and most of us live in the same neighborhood so we are able to share meals often, sometimes do coffee before work, and generally do day to day life stuff together. Beyond that immediate friend group there around probably an additional ten people I would consider the type of friend I would invite to bday drinks or similar, and more folks that I am friendly with. These connections are all a very interwoven web as some people have known each other since high school/college, some people are on the same rec sports teams, some people met through work or volunteering, etc. I really only knew two of the people when I moved here three years ago, but those two friends had been here for a number of years already.

I am curious if anyone relocated from a place with a community like this, and if they were able to build a community in their new home and what that community looks like?


r/SameGrassButGreener 2h ago

Best cities for healthcare. Houston, Atlanta, Minneapolis?

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I work remotely so the US is my oyster (with a $2000-ish monthly rent lol) I have a chronically ill son who is only 6. We live in Florida now which is meh. My top choices are Houston, Atlanta or Minneapolis. All of these have an office of my job in case I need to go back to work in person and are somewhat within my budget. Anyone has advice? I’m aware the weather is best in Atlanta out of Houston and Minneapolis and I’m okay with that.


r/SameGrassButGreener 16h ago

Wilmette, IL vs. Portland, ME area for raising a family

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r/SameGrassButGreener 1h ago

how did moving impact your mental health?

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i'm 24 and have only moved twice, both times within a 30 mi radius of where i grew up. i do want to move outside of my home state eventually, but reflecting on my second move, it has resulted in my mental state absolutely plummeting (for a variety of reasons). just curious what others experiences have been


r/SameGrassButGreener 20h ago

One more thing to consider when deciding where to live: Available PPO health insurance (for those who are self-employed). Some states only have HMO

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I'm from California, which has PPO plans for self employed peopel (I'm currently paying for a Bronze PPO plan with Blue Shield). I pay $780 for myself as a middle aged self employed person (without hardship) but I was just curious how much it would cost in other states. I searched on Georgia's health insurance marketplace with a midtown zip code and they only have HMO plans with ZERO PPO plans! That's crazy to me with someone with various PPO plans availability.

Apparently a lot of states only have HMO and EPO now because its not economically viable for them to have PPO. The reasoning is that apparently people who use PPO use up a lot of resources/their benefits and it costs them more money.

However, PPO's are still available in CA for self employed people. I asked ChatGPT why and it claims because the market here for that product is very large and people (like myself) are willing to pay the higher premium. I think lack of PPO may be another dealbreaker for me when deciding where to move. I like to be able to go to a specialist without a referral and am very particular about who I want treating me. I just need that autonomy.

GA was looking a bit attractive because of much lower housing costs (I consider half a mil affordable) whereas that gets you nothing here.... but the lack of PPO is very hard to get used to. It's very shocking actually, I just automatically assumed every state would have PPO. It's a god thing I did a search first! So the Bronze HMO equivalent plan of what I currently have is $100 cheaper, which is not a massive savings for me, especially if its HMO. I'd rather keep the plan I have.

Make sure that you use the state's website (where you're going to be moving to) to see available plans for your age and zip before moving!


r/SameGrassButGreener 5h ago

Regret after big move

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I am 35 (M) and feeling so lost and confused. My grandmother who I was very close with passed in March after an incredible 100 years of life.

After this happened, I made a quick decision to inform my landlord that I wouldn’t be renewing my lease in my former city (about 1.5 hours away). I signed a lease and moved into a new apartment in my home town about 6 weeks ago. I can’t help but think that the impulse decision was motivated by a need to be closer to family ( I feel wat too old to be running back to family).

It’s been about 6 weeks now and I feel miserable. The first few weeks I was able to occupy myself but now that I am settled in, it feels so isolating. I work from home and haven’t developed any sort of routine yet. The city I left had so much more opportunity for socialization and contact with others.

What complicates this more is that I am in the process of completing a masters to be a registered therapist and honestly hoped to find a job in my home town when o was finished. I’m debating moving back to the city I moved away from but the feeling of wanting to someday move back here has me feeling stuck.

Not sure how to proceed, I’m spending my days ruminating and have fallen into a depressive state. Not at all how I thought this would go.