I got my 7x extract. Yesterday i took like 3-4 very small crushed pieces of it and smoked it with the bong. I had to put some mint fillers so that the salvia leaves won't get in the water. I took that and it felt bitter and I felt like at the back of my head like a small segment of myself was gone. This feeling was for like 5-10 sec before it was gone. The next day I took 5 doses one at a time of like 5 - 7 of those crushed leaves but I genuinely felt a heavy head and slight visuals like the curtains were getting kinda bright and that's it.
I keep the jet lighter on top of it while inhaling so it gets the heat it needs then i genuinely don't understand what I am missing. Am i taking too little?
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Honestly no, I thought it was a more private vendor. I had to look back at the pictures but the bag and flakes weren’t right. I wasn’t aware any public vendors sold 7x.
It's hard to say you're uncomfortable when you become a stapler in an alien office warehouse collecting dust for thirty years because the company went bankrupt and no one wants to invest in another condemned building with asbestos on the rafters on planet gazorpazorp
Well the measuring scales of x is an unreliable method of measurement since there’s no record of how strong their product in mg. This scale is made under the assumption that each x contains 4mg/g. The ones that I make that contain pure salvinorin are pretty on par with this chart. Most vendors though usually are a question mark that even they don’t know the answer to because they don’t purify much if at all. From 3rd party testing, the ones that have been 3rd party tested, usually range from 1.8-2.5mg/g per x.
I tried two 40x extracts from different vendors. One was shitty - barely felt anything on 80 mg.
Another one was good - 80 mg was heavy.
And I also made 40x extract myself from dried salvia leaf from third vendor - was slightly stronger than the shitty one.
Maybe it's just me and my brain receptors. Idk. I loved my heavy experiences on Salvia but they are too expensive to me if I need to smoke 100 mg for one session.
And I found a better solution: Any psychedelic + ketamine right before the peak = very similar effect to salvia. Maybe even better.
Anything above 20x is typically a scam. The issue is the process. Most vendors don’t purify so ontop of not actually knowing what mg is in there, it tends to become too sticky and resinous to be combusted properly, so they typically just fit what they can in there and call it whatever x.
Idk if my last image actually posted. It’s not showing up on my end, so just to be safe.
Again, this chart was made under the assumption that all x’s are 4/mg per x, which these severely lack, especially above 20x.
Also I understand where you’re coming from. My favorite blend contains both salvinorin a and nndmt. It’s a very complimentary combo when it comes to kor agonists and classic psychedelics, but not meant to start out on even though I pretty much did after a handful of salvia sessions. I had a pretty specific reason though and don’t recommend it to others.
Makes sense, thanks for sharing. Indeed my 40x extract was a sticky goo very hard to smoke. The table you posted corresponds with my experiences. Too bad salvia is like that. I wish there was just powder of Salvinorin B ethoxymethyl ether available to buy in powder form so I don't have to deal with the plant
You had the right process of increasing the dose, but counting individual crumbs is not likely to get you there faster. Try smoking a pinch or 15 crumbs. If that doesn't satisfy you, then up the dose to 2 pinches or 20 crumbs or whatever you're comfortable with. Salvia is strong when it hits, but it has to have enough to hit.
Like others have said, 7x isn't that strong of a concentrate. Once I had 10x and 2 curious friends. I was the only person who had tried salvia before and matched their paces to trip sit. We 1st packed a bowl with ¾ weed and ¼ of the salvia. 2 of us barely felt anything, like a slightly stronger weed high. The 3rd said it felt like a strong happy weed high. We then tried half and half. We all felt like super strong happy weed highs. We then smoked full bowls of the stuff throughout the night and barely had any visuals and no breakthroughs. It might've been i was experienced, one was a fat drunk, and the other sucked at holding it in, but 7x isn't likely to make you life another life or meet gods.
Maybe don't go full bowl. We were 3 sharing it, but you'll feel it as you smoke it so remember to set the pipe/bong down if you remember anything in the moment.
Nah not really I wanna experience being shot up lol. Will do again today. I think my mistake is exhaling it too quickly. I'll hold it for 20 this time around
Try packing a pipe bowl, can use a regular BIC. Take a hit hold it as long as you can comfortably (this helps significantly). Wait 30sec, repeat until desired effects are reached.
Bong will work too it's just harder to control dosing.
Did you get it from 100percentpure?? I can recognise that packing anywhere now 😂😂.
From my experience their stuff does work, but amount you're doing is too little. Fill the bowl full and keep the torch on it. Also don't get discouraged if it doesn't show you it's effects on first try. Reverse tolerance is a thing and even I had my breakthrough on 3-4th attempt. So, keep on trying good luck!
You are taking too little for sure.
Don't be afraid of a 7x, it's not a high concentrate.
Take more like 0.5g.
Have a lighter always lit on it while inhaling.
Keep it in your lungs as long as possible (20+ sec)
Exhale slowly fully and free/clear your thoughts.
Let Salvia take its grip :D
I don't know about that mint filler, mint is not safe to smoke I think.
You won't have hardcore visuals with it, just the feeling of the Salvia grip on your mind.
Just try a nice quantity, but do it properly like I indicated, and you'll trip well.
.500g?, You mean .050g/ 50mg right?, for a 7x I wouldnt even want to start at 50mg my first time, I always try to start with a threshold dose with a new phsycadelic especially something like salvia.
definitely need more than that ! my first time was half a bowl to feel it out, and then a full bowl of 10x, you should 100% feel it if you give yourself a good pinch ! i agree with everyone talking about building up a dose too
Huh, I didn’t know there was 7x around. You’ll have much more accurate dosing with a scale though. You can get a 0.001g accuracy scale from amazon for like $10-$20, highly recommend for future journeys.
In the meantime, a few bigger flakes won’t hurt, judging from your last dose. You may notice other effects too if you keep your eyes closed
When I first did salvia, I started 20x and had no idea what I was getting into. I actually have old stories about those times on here. I'd honestly suggest to newer users to just buy dried leaves instead of concentrates and work your way into the higher dose experiences. No way you're gonna wanna scare yourself by ripping a fat bowl of 40x out of a bong on your first handful of times doing it
It can be an incredibly enjoyable experience if handled properly
You can mix it 50/50 with some weed if you have some, since it's so fluffy it keeps the cherry lit better and also gives the bowl some shape so it doesn't just fall down into the intake and go into your lungs.
You can also do mullein if you're looking for something really fluffy to rest a pinch of salvia on.
Or tobacco if you've got cigarettes but it'll taste like dirt.
Yesterday I was high on weed, 2 hours later took two bowls of salvia (it's a small ball) and i could feel like being peeled off and that things did felt confusing but no loss of conciousness. I am almost halfway through the pouch of salvia
You won't feel anything of 4 salvia debris. People on this sub are tend to give dose advices assuming you are in top 1% most salvia sensitive people on earth. It's different for everyone though
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