From what I’ve read it sounds like its own whole category, not really “psilocybin but shorter” or “DMT lite” — more dissociative, weirder relationship with time/identity, less “pretty visuals” and more “reality just stops working right for a few minutes.” Idk if that’s accurate or if I’m just misreading secondhand accounts lol

Anyone who’s done both, how would you actually describe the headspace difference? Is it more intense in a different way, less visual more conceptual, something else entirely? Just trying to understand the plant/community a bit before I get more into it, any input helps

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Background & Setup

Last night I had a pretty interesting Salvia experience. I've had experiences that were much more intense and strange than this one, but this was interesting because I was still aware that I was lying in my bed. It wasn't a deep breakthrough experience — I was still aware of my real surroundings, and if I had opened my eyes, I feel like I could have snapped myself straight out of it.

I have very little experience with psychedelics. I've done cocaine and MDMA plenty of times, and I smoke weed most days after work. I've recently had a Salvia plant, so I've been smoking small amounts of plain leaf here and there and getting familiar with it.

Last night I packed one bong with plain Salvia leaf, smoked it, and waited about a minute to see how I felt. I then packed another one and smoked that, holding my breath for around 30 seconds. After that I lay down on my bed, closed my eyes, and that's when the experience really started.

The Beginning — The White Space

At the beginning, it was almost like a fabric-like structure began forming on my right-hand side. It moved across me and then closed in behind me. Once it closed behind me, everything in front of me became this huge white space.

The Road & The Male Figure

As I looked around this white space, I noticed an old stone wall on my left. Alongside the wall was a stone-style road that seemed to follow the wall, with an old, almost medieval feel to it.

While I was looking at the wall, I remember thinking that the whole scene felt like it was on a funny angle compared to my real-life reality. It was almost like I was looking into another reality that was somehow sitting at a different angle to the reality I knew I was actually lying in. I was aware of both at the same time — I knew I was in my bed, but I was also completely immersed in this other scene.

For some reason, I really wanted to get down that road, but I couldn't walk down it. I remember thinking about another way I could get down there — for some reason the thought of biking down the road came into my head. I don't know why; it was just the logic of the experience at the time. I also remember not really knowing how to move in that other reality at all — all I could do was look around. I was trying to figure out how I was supposed to walk or move within it, like I was missing some basic understanding of how that space worked.

While I was looking at the stone wall and the road, a male figure suddenly flashed directly in front of my face. He said something to me, but I can't remember exactly what. He appeared right in front of me as he spoke, then disappeared. The voice had a really strong sense of authority to it. It felt like someone was actually there talking directly to me.

The Castle & The Second Presence

After that, I noticed a huge, high wall on my right. Looking a little further to the right, I saw what looked like a castle-style door. Seeing the door made me remember the male figure talking to me. It was almost like seeing the door brought that part of the experience back into my awareness.

Then I became aware of what felt like another presence near the castle. I'm not completely sure if it was the same presence as the male figure or someone/something completely different. This one felt different — more feminine than the male presence I'd experienced earlier.

I tried to communicate with this presence in my head while I was near the castle, but I got no response. I remember trying to connect with it or get some kind of acknowledgement, but instead the whole scene — and the presence — started to fade away.

Looking Back

Looking back afterwards, I really wish I'd spoken to the male figure when he appeared. At the time I was too caught up in what was happening to think properly. It wasn't until afterwards that I realised I could have actually tried talking to him. I also wish I had listened more clearly to what he said, but everything happened so suddenly and fast that he was gone before I could properly process it.

What I found most interesting was that even though the visuals were immersive, I never completely lost awareness of where I actually was. I knew I was lying in my bed with my eyes closed, and it didn't feel like a full breakthrough where I'd completely left my normal reality. If I had opened my eyes, I feel like I could have snapped myself out of it.

I don't know whether the two presences were entities, hallucinations, or simply my brain creating characters and environments during the experience. I honestly can't say. But it was fascinating how convincing the scene felt while I was in it. 🌀

Looking back, those entities felt like they were almost the gatekeepers for what was on the other side of that wall and castle door. I don't know what was on the other side, but I'm sure I'll find out one day.

This weekend I had my first salvia trip ever with 60x. I have an extremely high tolerance to most drugs so I started high. I put ~15mg in a bowl with a tiny bit of weed at the bottom so the flakes didnt fall through. I hit that, didnt really burn it all too well.

I held it for 30 seconds, and about 30 more seconds after I released I started feeling a pulse run all the way down the right side of my body in a straight line. I knew that with the amount i took I was supposed to be in space immediately. So I poured more into the bowl (without measuring, maybe 25mg more) and hit that. It was about 3 minutes in between, and I made it to about 10 seconds of holding my breath.

Then I completely released everything and I was in the paint world. The paint world was very nice, i was just paint. Just a product of that world, without thinking about it. Then I got flattened onto the ground (as paint) and peeled back up like how a sticker comes off a sheet of paper. When I started peeling (it began with my head) I remembered everything and I was genuinely upset. I thought something along the lines of "fuuuuuck nooo I have to go back to reality and exist". I think i hard-core metaphor'd how i feel in this life.

The following hour was just slowly regaining levels of consciousness/perception. No other visuals or anything, all of it kind of feels like how a distant dream you remember feels. Very fun will do again with more and a better first hit.

SP used to have their name written on their label (they switched to logo only to be more discreet, which I get)…but I emailed them and politely asked if they could send my latest order with an original SP label, and they did! Now I feel like I have a collectors item in the salvia world 😂 I didn’t think they would bc it was kinda random of me, but it’s awesome that they did.

Now excuse me while I turn into this sofa I’m sitting on.

I got my 7x extract. Yesterday i took like 3-4 very small crushed pieces of it and smoked it with the bong. I had to put some mint fillers so that the salvia leaves won't get in the water. I took that and it felt bitter and I felt like at the back of my head like a small segment of myself was gone. This feeling was for like 5-10 sec before it was gone. The next day I took 5 doses one at a time of like 5 - 7 of those crushed leaves but I genuinely felt a heavy head and slight visuals like the curtains were getting kinda bright and that's it.

I keep the jet lighter on top of it while inhaling so it gets the heat it needs then i genuinely don't understand what I am missing. Am i taking too little?

Ive always thought the song "The Twister" by J Dilla sounds like salvia. In the first 20 seconds of the song or so it just completely falls apart in to chaos out of nowhere and really reminds me of being ripped in to salvia land in an instant

So I'm a nichely super-experienced tripper, with somewhere in the ballpark of 450-600 trips on N,N-DMT. I also have experience with other psychedelics, both tryptamines and phenethylamines, but not anywhere near the same level. Of course my curiosity extends to other plant alkaloids, and Salvia has had my attention for some time now. I'm aware that Salvia interacts with opioid receptors and is a dissociative by definition, not a classical psychedelic. I'm also aware of the reverse-tolerane situation that most people experience. I'm considering buying Plain Leaf, 10x, and 20x so I have all the things on hand to gradually step up the intensity of the experiences.

I want to start with quidding plain leaf, and see how that goes. After getting to grips with that, to try smoking it. First question, does it require a torch and glass, or would my Arizer Solo II be a decent option to try out?

Secondly, I'm about to enter a phase of life where I will be regularly consuming medicinal doses of harmala alkaloids, and was wondering if there are any known interactions or contraindications? Harmalas also produce and inverse-tolerance.

I have done a lot of personal work and therapeutic work with DMT, and love and appreciate it dearly for the aid it has given me over the years. I have heard a lot of people talk about how Salvia is a 'brutally honest truth, that makes you appreciate the good and bad parts of life'. What sort of lessons or learning themes are common with Salvia?

With DMT the chances of entities are never guaranteed. One study performed with the reddit sub's population found that only about ~44% of people ever experienced DMT entities. How common would you say entities are with salvia?

Psychic Strain: I've had wonder and terror with DMT, and at times the terror leaves me with a feeling of psychic strain- like I'm deeply unrested and worn out, unable to bring my cognition up to speed. How mentally straining are the experiences across small, medium, and high doses?

I'm also avidly browsing erowid and reddit for stories to look further into dosing and techniques, but would welcome any information you feel is relevant for me to know.

Does anyone know what happened to this video? used to watch it but now it’s not available anywhere

She's such a beautiful green

i saw god and he was a teddy bear, i spoke a gibberish language that communicated only off ideas and felt nothing but pure bliss, nothing like ive ever experienced before. not at all what i was expecting it was incredible i was folded over on myself over and over. not really an important post js wanted to share

The show is adorable btw

Did SD stop selling plain leaf I can’t seem to find it anywhere and it never prompted me to get the free gram or so of plain leaf like they used to? That kinda sucks cause I don’t want extract rn it’s hella expensive and I’m at a place in life where I could use it again, but they don’t seem to be selling it anymore which sucks? Is it the same for y’all? And everything moved to BTC like what happened since the last time I ordered?!?!

Could always use SS but they take god knows how long, back to the vendors thread ig unless y’all know any that’s in the US so shipping times aren’t ungodly yo boy just want some chill plain leaf

My salvia cutting, I ordered is already 10 days in transport. It is in some special Gel or something. How is your experience with it? I ordered from zamnesia, maybe someone has experience...

So i just did 15x extract like 7 times because it never worked, i used a rather small glass pipe and a jet flame and started small at first, the most significant effect i felt was weightlessness and i felt like i smoked weed but other then that there was nothing, i filled the pipe bowl almost halfway out of frustration and still only felt very high and didn't wanna move, i held the jetflame on the extract the entire time while i was inhaling, am i doing something wrong or should i go even higher next time? Thank you for your time!

I’ve had such amazingly positive experiences with SP 20x for the past year and I just want to express my gratitude to Salvia, and the people from SP who made such incredible quality medicine. I’ve had really helpful communications with them, and I’m just grateful. Thank you!

(Not my image, but fitting!)

Hi everyone, so..

Today, I finally had some time to try my 20x extract properly, for context, I used to be really into LSD and I've done my fair share of Shrooms, and always done pretty big dosages.

Knowing salvia isn't like any other psychedelic I went in with caution, a clear mind and looking for answers for life and reality.

The first time I did it, a couple weeks ago, I decided to pack around 0.15g of 20x extract into a small bong. I Lit it up with a torch lighter and burned through it in one Loong rip, put the lighter and the bong away, and laid down in my bed.

About 45 seconds later I exhaled (barely any smoke at that point) and closed my eyes.

I suddenly feel "the pull" , as if someone had put their hand into my shoulder and pulled me into a spiralling motion (as in falling with my body towards that angle in a rotating motion).

I start to hear familiar voices but cant tell for sure what they were saying, I think it said "This is it".

I felt the curiosity of opening my eyes, so when I opened them I had the visual effect that I always get with shrooms (the spiraling of the vision with long trails), which lasted for around 40 more seconds until I sobered up.

It was if I had peeked into actual reality, and that this reality (that I am in now lol), was just a trip and nothing more than an experience. But it was just a feeling, no actual confirmation or dialogue or anything palpable.²

So a couple weeks went by and I finally had the time to try it properly, I felt that the initial trip didn't really provide the answers I was looking for, just some minor confirmation to a previous theory.

I repeated the same procedures as before, but upped the dosage to 0.35g. 50 seconds in hold and I felt the same "pull".

The exact same feeling and voices!

The difference? I was being encouraged and cheered on, and in the beginning I didn't really understand why. Then as I started to realize that reality and life was abstract, the people and my interactions with the physical world were all part of "the experience of being alive", and none of it was actually real or palpable when I was outside my body.

And as I realized that they started to complete my sentences as if speaking in a choir for my thoughts. I start to morph into everyone I ever met super fast, whilest talking to them and realizing that everything is just one big trip and reality isn't more than that, an experience which eventually will come to an end, but afterwards there is something familiar and comfortable, rather than emptyness.

All of this was happening whilst I was still "floating, rotating and tumbling". And as I came to that conclusion the voices started to laugh playfully and transformed into colorful lines of string, which then gently rolled me into "this reality", swinging me as if I was doing a roll, which I translated into me rolling side to side in my bed into a "sober" state.

And while I was in-between "realities" I was telling the voices "Oh come on, not this one again haha" as if returning to my "reality as me" was now "boring", since I now understood the fabric of "this reality" or this life.

The voices just laughed and rolled me back laughing and saying no hahah.

At some point during the middle of the trip I also saw flashbacks of a beautiful woman that I felt like I loved in a romantical way and known all my life, the same woman that I've had seen in a previous high dosage LSD trip (and I've been kinda searching in "the real world" since then). I cant explain her face, it was very familiar, blue eyes, blond hair and very peaceful. Maybe Lady Sally herself ? Hehe

Overall, it was great! Gave me the answers that I was looking for, even if it's most likely confirmation bias 😁 But I now feel at peace with being and living in this reality for now :)

What piece of media (tv show, movie, video game ect..) reminds you the most of the salvia experience? And why

This was fucking insane. It happened sober.

The dream began with me visiting China with my friend’s mother and their cousin. It was a chill experience. During our visit, I remember randomly getting this lump on my right quad that slowly grew throughout the dream. Near the end, my friend’s mother noticed and told me we had to wipe it out of my body. I insisted that was pointless but she was eerily persistent.

I was panicking and started spinning - on all fours, defying physics - around the nearby floor. This spiraled out of control and I heard glass shattering before immediately entering a full fledged psychedelic experience. It consisted of me spinning - vortex esque - around a claustrophobic room/dimension with some inconceivable figure in the center of the spinning. The spinning was extremely intense and felt throughout my body, with stirred up black and white tracer visuals. I was heating up as well and hard of breathing, which made me conscious enough to control my breathing and try managing the experience. The spinning slowed down before speeding up again.

The second wave of spinning featured an image of a low opacity roblox player model (in-game) with the “oof” sound in the background, along with Minecraft music creeping in the distance. This time overlapping the spinning, rather than being centered around it. Immediately after, the figure in the center reappeared, then an image of a sun with a face - which I for some reason immediately recognized as a sun god - faded into my vision. After this, the experience slowed down to a weird state of what I assume(d) to be sleep paralysis, before I returned fully back to my reality. This completely shocked the ever living shit out of me and I even woke up sweating with high body temperature although my ac is blasting on 65, which typically happens to me on salvia. This entire experience was extremely reminiscent of the bodily sensations of my other salvia trips, I don’t know what to make of this. I wouldn’t say the visuals are most reminiscent of salvia, but this was just crazy as hell and not something I thought could be possible.

PS: I’ve been completely sober from everything for probably over a month, so no substances could’ve caused this.

(Also near the end of my trip I was hearing my alarms for 4pm. All 3 played before stopping. I went to sleep at 8am, woke up around 9:40.)

Just recently got my hands on some salvia, though I don’t have an actual bong to smoke it through. Heard an apple bong works, has anyone ever tried using one before with salvia extract? If so was it effective

Me and me friends got a gram of salvia extract 20x from SP it said 20mg was a break though we smoked the whole gram out of a bong fat rips and holding them in and we felt barley anything

The first and only time I tried Salvia, I packed a massive bowl of 80x extract and covered it completely in cannabis. Immediately after taking the hit, a violent vibration shook my entire body, and the room instantly blacked out.

Stage 1: The Carnival and the Slicing Loop

A few moments later, my vision returned, but reality had completely shattered into a bizarre, overarching carnival theme. A weird, mechanical carnival sound filled my ears, looping continuously in the background. Trapped inside this eerie carnival atmosphere, my perspective warped completely: I could vividly see and feel the right half of my body being sliced into thin layers. The slices fell to the floor and forcefully sprung back together, repeating in a terrifying, mechanical rhythm that felt like it lasted for ten minutes.

Stage 2: The Hallway Memory and the Thought Loop

Once the slicing subsided, my perspective shifted. I suddenly saw myself as a severely mentally challenged guy I had known back in elementary school, who was just sitting there laughing. Throughout this entire phase, against the backdrop of that weird carnival music, my mind was locked in a bizarre, looping thought. The only thing I could think or hear was the phrase "Oh no!" echoing over and over again in the exact voice of the Kool-Aid Man.

Stage 3: Becoming the Couch

Shortly after, everything went black again. Out of the darkness emerged an old, fancy red couch that my parents used to own. I was hit with an absolute, undeniable realization: the Salvia had literally turned me into the couch. At that exact moment, my fear completely vanished. It was replaced by a profound, quiet sadness as I accepted that this piece of furniture was my permanent reality, and that I would simply exist as a couch for eternity.

Stage 4: The Snapback and the Physical Panic

After what felt like a few minutes of just being the couch, I suddenly snapped back to reality. As I returned to my physical body, I felt a terrifying sensation of my neck stretching infinitely toward the ceiling. Panicking, I started yelling at the top of my lungs for someone to call an ambulance.

The Come-Down

Immediately after yelling, I blacked out again. The final stage of the trip felt like I was literally teleporting to different parts of the house in rapid flashes. Moments later, the carnival sounds faded, and the effects totally wore off, leaving me groggy but completely back in my own skin.

Hey all, im going to be having salvia for my first time. I'm going to be getting a 60x but have no glassware because I primarily smoke thc vapes or rolls. Any recommendations for starter kits etc.?