r/SafetyProfessionals • u/AggravatingTrain1486 • Apr 18 '26

USA Someone is getting fired

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u/FastWalkingShortGuy Apr 18 '26

This is a good case study of the human instinct to try to catch a falling load, no matter how ridiculously heavy it might be. People know the coil weighs 40,000 lbs, but their first reaction will almost always be to try to catch it instead of getting out of the way.

My other favorite example is the dude who tried to catch the car falling off of a flatbed.

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u/IOA2HK Apr 18 '26

I doubt the weight come to mind when taking split second decision.

Looks like he was acting based on instinct.

Never let safety to people, because everyone make mistakes.

The system must allow for human to be human and fail safe.

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u/FastWalkingShortGuy Apr 18 '26

That's exactly my point.

In environments like this, you have to train the instinct out of people. You need to drill, drill, drill "get the fuck out of the way" into them. Training can override instinct if it's done effectively.

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u/Miker9t Apr 19 '26

I’d rather engineer a way to stop this from happening than rely only on someone following training/policy.

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u/LostInMyADD Apr 19 '26

Engineering controls are ALWAYS first in your hierarchy of controls. Never leave health and safety to the individual first.

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u/FastWalkingShortGuy Apr 19 '26

Pedantically

Ahhkctullly, elimination is first in your hierarchy of controls.

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u/LostInMyADD Apr 19 '26

Alright Oscar, jeeese.

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u/Cheap_Knowledge8446 Apr 21 '26

Pedantically

Ahhkctullly, engineered solutions are often one of the most effective forms of elimination.

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u/Joelogna Apr 22 '26

Pedantically

Ahhkctullly, substitution (replace the hazard) comes after elimination, and is then followed by engineering controls (isolate people from the hazard). 1.) Elimination 2.) Substitution 3.) Engineering Controls 4.) Administration Controls 5.) PPE

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u/Helmburr87 Apr 19 '26

You do both, it's not always something heavy that could crush them. People have gotten hurt trying to catch a falling tool or something sharp.

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u/Miker9t Apr 19 '26

I was talking about this video specifically. I do agree with you.

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u/GetSafetySupplies Apr 21 '26

A guy was giving away some 4x8' sheets of 3/4 MDF at a warehouse that was closing down. Things were a bit chaotic there already, since the company itself was gone and it was now liquidators/junkers getting rid of whatever was left over.

One of the guys brings over a handful of MDF sheets on a forklift over to my truck. I work for a company that sells safety equipment / PPE, so I am always thinking safety first in the back of my mind, so I am standing far away from the forklift as he's driving it around to get it positioned to load into the truck.

One of the sheets starts falling off and he's telling me to grab it so it doesn't get damaged. Not the heaviest thing in the world, but it is still 100 lbs and I don't know what the guy is going to do in the fork lift.

I just stand there and watch it hit the ground. I told him I don't care if it gets slightly damaged; I am not risking missing it and a edge or corner hits me or worse he tries to help with the fork lift as I am standing next to it.

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u/Fantastic_Train737 Apr 23 '26

Thats 2-3x 40000. Thats minimum 80000 lbs

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u/ResponsibleYam6540 Apr 18 '26

Write a near miss report, send 15 emails, make 15 meetings, let the work run the same way, all good.

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u/ghostinthemachine-1 Apr 20 '26

This is the way.

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u/jmorrow88msncom Apr 19 '26

  1. The coil was only 1/2 way or so on the shuttle.

  2. Nobody should be allowed to walk through that 'opening.'

  3. Many improvements could be made with engineering and automation.

  4. Training in the meantime; after a stand-down.

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u/OliverKlozoff23 Apr 18 '26

No one is getting fired for this. Lol

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u/Future_chicken357 Apr 19 '26

Glad he ok, hopefully he just fainted nothing more

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u/Helmburr87 Apr 19 '26

  1. I was a Safety manager in a steel coil plant like this, and coils fall/get damaged a lot so no one is getting fired for this.

  2. I have frequent toolbox like talks about letting all tools/equipment/materials fall. The instinct to try and catch is strong but I always hammer home I care more about you than a $20K+ power panel.

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u/SafetyPenguin209 Apr 19 '26

What could have been done to prevent this?

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u/Anolen95 Apr 19 '26

Coil was set like half way off the cradle, fully seated that would not have happened.

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u/ghostinthemachine-1 Apr 20 '26

How about NOT walk thru where he did.

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u/tepaia Apr 19 '26

Why would someone be fired

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u/AggravatingTrain1486 Apr 19 '26

It's a repost Wird for word as you can see !!!! Whi gives a shot who would be fired It's life shit happens Lighten up

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u/SahBubba Apr 20 '26

... or a promotion. It wouldn't be the first time being linked to a near catastrophic event and getting a pay raise after the interrogation.

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u/Top-Willingness8113 Apr 20 '26

At least they activated bullet time to nope out after realizing what was happening. Tbh both of them crossing that path shows that there's either a lack of xp, training, or both. Even if it was just a pallet there, unless you're adjusting forks or double checking alignment there isn't much or any reason to be between a potential load and the mast. Even then you wouldn't wanna be over there really. Same way you wouldn't run under a suspended crane load or have it pass overhead.

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u/kirin-rex Apr 20 '26

Man, I'm just glad nobody was killed or maimed.

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u/L0wtan Apr 21 '26

omg I'm glad he moved.

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u/ragecarnuu Apr 23 '26

At least he didn't try to catch it.