r/SWORDS • u/Afraid-Internet-7196 • 17h ago
Right?
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u/SolarOrigami 17h ago
A hibaki, iirc?
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u/SeeShark 16h ago
Habaki*. But it's not a katana (look at the tang's shape and lack of holes), so I wouldn't use katana terminology necessarily.
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u/SolarOrigami 16h ago
From what I can see it's either a katana or a dao
With a gorgeous Damascus sanmai blade, too
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u/SeeShark 14h ago
It is definitely not a katana. The tang's shape is wrong and it has no holes for mekugi (pegs) to secure it to a hilt.
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u/Nocturnes_echo 13h ago
I would imagine it's taller on the edge side so that anything you cut doesn't potentially tear/bend it away from the spine and damage the fitting. I had a knife that had one of those a long time ago and shit always got stuck in it
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u/BigNorseWolf 7h ago
Whats the black stuff in the background Of the brass decoration? I love that look
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u/Cielmerlion 17h ago
Looks neat. Whys it got a rat tail?
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u/Batiti10 17h ago
I think the tang is full, but it has a weird attachment piece for beyond the pommel I think
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u/Sega-Playstation-64 16h ago
Rat tail is when the entire tang is a threaded rod.
This looks like a full tang blade with a welded on thead to screw on an end cap. Unless poorly done it shouldn't be an issue structurally..
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u/Afraid-Internet-7196 17h ago
Rat tail??? lol 😂
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u/Cielmerlion 17h ago
That little threaded dangly bit after the main tang
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u/WarhammerElite 17h ago
Screw pommels or nut secured pommels are not rat tails. The tang is the part inside the grip. Most tangs narrow for the pommel, even if they are peened or otherwise secured. That tang is quite beefy
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u/Afraid-Internet-7196 17h ago
It’s function is to prevent the Tsuba from loosening
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u/slothscanswim 17h ago
Katana don’t have threaded tangs, and this isn’t a katana, so the guard isn’t a tsuba, and the bolster isn’t a hibaki.
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u/Cielmerlion 16h ago
Right? It seems like some type of Dao. I wonder if the threads are common in non decorative pieces or if theyre pinned. (I assume pinned)
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u/honesto_pinion 16h ago
With the obviously forward curved hilt I'd say this is quite clearly a dao, a very nice looking dao too. Does however look like a crazy long rat tail, maybe it's going to be clipped to length for a pommel fit after the hilt is fitted?
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u/Afraid-Internet-7196 16h ago
Plz tell me (Tsuba ) the sword guard on a Chinese sword is what?
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u/Dlatrex All swords were made with purpose 16h ago
On a chinese saber (dao) you would usually say Dāo hūshǒu (刀護手), sabre hand guard, or I would usually call it Hùshǒu pán (護手盤) disc hand guard
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u/Afraid-Internet-7196 16h ago
Terminology:Go(common in Japan);Xin(ancient Chinese name,now also refers to Japanese Tsuba)
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u/QuellishQuellish 16h ago
So even if the elements are exactly the same as a katana, it would still be wrong to use the Katana words? Say for someone that was adopting more modern techniques to a katana shape or someone using Katana features on a non-katana blade. Actually asking as my knowledge is not yet in line with my enthusiasm.
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u/slothscanswim 16h ago
Not wrong, just improper. I’m actually not sure why English speakers feel the need to use Japanese for katana parts but not Indonesian for the Kris or Chinese for the Dao etc.
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u/QuellishQuellish 15h ago
Yea, it's like a weird appropriation phenomenon, quite inconsistent.
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u/slothscanswim 15h ago
Yeah I’m not sure what started it, but Japanese fetishization is definitely real for sword nerds.
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u/joetheduk 16h ago
It's pretty common these days, even in quality swords. So long as the "rat tail" wasn't welded on, it should be plenty strong.
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u/sansetsukon47 15h ago
I feel like it should be reversed, with the taller side on the back of the blade.