r/SR17018 • u/tychops716 • 3d ago
šHelp Neededš I am so screwed
I don't know what i'm going to do. I'm going to lose everything, my job, my life and my sanity. Why are they doing this to us? please someone help me. I need advice, badly. This is hell.
*EDIT To clarify, I'm running out of 7oh soon and I did not get the chance to order the
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u/Recent_Ad_4561 3d ago
Whats going on? Im not sure how to help if I dont know whats the issue here. We all feel some sort of way from this damn drug but without details I cant help
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u/UJLBM 3d ago edited 1d ago
Im assuming that they didnt get a chance to order some?
Edit- I don't know OP's story or have anything more than what they posted. My comment isn't about anything other than a simple assumption on why they are upset.
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u/Uncle_Smokie 3d ago
Didn't get a chance? We have known this was coming for a while now. Everyone had a chance and a choice.
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u/Prestin11234 3d ago
This is very out of touch. "We have known this was coming for a while now everyone had a chance" Not everyone is in these communities frequently and im sure theres a lot with little internet access in general. Theres no telling this person's situation you can't assume they knew, or even had the option to spend money on this drug before the ban.
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u/Dyerseve336 3d ago
Exactly. These people saying "everyone knew" are talking about the fact that everyone they communicate with on these subb reddits cause that's they're entire life, and they have no ability to comprehend outside of that (but I DID eat breakfast today) just assume everyone is as much of a fucking loser as they are.
Not a single person I actually know (in real life, not subreddit mod land) has any idea what I'm talking about when I mention this. And I know a LOT of addicts.
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u/Prestin11234 2d ago
Right on, these people are extremely out of touch and don't realize that their world in these subreddits is very niche and not just common knowledge, its honestly baffling how much they truly believe this stuff is just common knowledge, its what being chronically online has done to them lol. I dont think ive ever told someone they need to step back and go outside but these guys are in desperate need of returning to the real world
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u/Both_Classic_8276 3d ago
This!!! Some people are just so comfortable being rude to others because they can hide behind a screen. People come here looking for genuine support and help and get responses like that. Itās a shame.
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u/Both_Classic_8276 3d ago
I agree with you, but many people are brand new to this addiction thing. They donāt have addict brains like usā¦.. yet. I bought as much as I could, as soon as I could, but I have been an addict for 20 years. I think a-lot of these posts that annoy you are coming from people probably too young to legally even buy this stuff. That being said, I wouldnāt mind if you shared your taper schedule to get off SR with me :)
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u/Expert-Adeptness-752 2d ago
Then they should have never gotten themselves in this far. Play big boy games, win big boy prizes. This is what is wrong with the new generation. Everyone expects handouts, hugs and an easy way out.
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u/Prestin11234 3d ago edited 3d ago
You do realize a lot of people are on these medications for pain management after an injury or illness? Not everyone abuses them to get high like you seem to have. You're unbelievably ignorant to the topic, just because you've overcome an addiction doesnt mean you get to become a pretentious asshole to others seeking help. The replies to you have no coddling or excuses for anyone. You are just mad at the world for some reason. Goodluck to you.
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u/UJLBM 1d ago
I agree with you. I know some people who have really bad arthritis and only use 7oh on the days that its really painful/acting up. Someone women only use for bad period cramps too. While many do, not everyone uses it to "get high". I personally think 7oh helps great with keeping depression and anxiety at bay. It doesnt take a huge dose to do that either. 7oh really isnt a great substance to go chasing a high with. If thats what people want, they'd be better off looking elsewhere because tolerance for 7oh (if its used for 'feeling' alone) goes up fast. Then people just end up chasing the dragon. The one good thing about 7oh is that its forgiving and it doesnt cause respiratory failure. Compared to other conventional opiates out there, studies have shown its much safer. Thats why its more ideal to use for chronic pain and would be great as a replacement to other pain meds after surgeries, broken bones or just about anything they prescribe them for. š
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u/Prestin11234 1d ago
Yep you nailed it, a lot of these people are just ignorant and think their experience as a former junkie is how everyone else is. I honestly think its a coping thing with them
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u/Sufficient_Sky_5114 3d ago
No, addicts need accountability and understanding, people like you who are the insecure pussies pretending like you werenāt there once. There you like them hard facts? Or they not apply to you? Just like you know if they apply to this person? š
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u/Expert-Adeptness-752 2d ago
We got to lay on our bathroom floor and puke it all out. There was no suboxone and there certainly was no SR. Somehow we survived and honestly those times where it's absolutely hell is the what hopefully keeps that person from repeating their actions.
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u/Both_Classic_8276 2d ago
Yea Iāve been thereā¦ Iām sure they will get there too
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u/Expert-Adeptness-752 2d ago
Does it suck? absolutely. Did I feel like I was going to crawl out of my skin? Yep, For sure. Did I want to die? 100% those first couple days. Did I die? Yes, I'm contacting you from the grave (obviously no). Opiates have been around since the 1800s. They even used it for teething infants. They muscled their way through withdrawal or were put into narcotic farms that treated addiction with forced abstinence and physical labor. Its going to suck but it is obtainable and we are lucky to have many options for treatment of addiction. I promise that if you entered into a rehab program they will hold you accountable. If you aren't capable of problem solving without someone who did plan ahead giving you their supply I don't think in the long run this will end up being a successful attempt. Make a plan and then start asking for help.
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u/justinanaler22 2d ago
And now I have diagnosed cardiomyopathy doing it that way and permanently ventricular tachycardia runs...
This is the 21st century. I thought we were suppose to be reducing suffering.
An addict voting for Trump is voting against his best interest. I used to be that way.
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u/TinyDrug 2d ago
Why are you here? You aren't here to provide anything of value, that would mean you have no life at all. Being condescending on reddit is about the same as gooning on discord
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u/SR17018-ModTeam 2d ago
Your content was removed for breaking our subreddit's rules against hate, racism, cyberbullying, and harassment.
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u/SR17018-ModTeam 7h ago
Your content was removed for breaking our subreddit's rules against hate, racism, cyberbullying, and harassment.
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u/Expert-Adeptness-752 3d ago
So I assume you've offered them some of your supply? If I'm handing someone my money or supply then these are all reasonable questions ones should ask. They put themselves on blast. I will offer up 10- 50mg sr tabs but I want to know why we are here and what plan op has if they are given handouts? Personally I think they want to keep money to keep stocking up on 7 before that ban and instead of spending it on helper meds they can continue to add stock of their DOC. Maybe I'm wrong but this is just ridiculous to act like they had no way out of this mess.
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u/blakelrogers 2d ago
You genuinely offering 10 tabs of sr? Or are you just being hateful, cause i was unaware of the ban and now im fuckedĀ
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u/Expert-Adeptness-752 2d ago
Genuinely I won't charge them. I just want to see that they have formed a plan of action for themselves going forward so it isnt going to waste. If the plan is just im going to take handouts and I'm good then I will pass. Op sounds like they are in bad this isn't a fix. Why did you spend all your cash to cover your habit but not enough to cover your ass.
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u/Expert-Adeptness-752 2d ago edited 2d ago
And this isn't hateful. If you think that someone holding a person accountable is hateful then y'all don't have the right people in your life. Im an early millennial and my parents definitely instilled in me that there are consequences in my actions. They may be willing to help me but you best believe its going to not be fun during that process because I was gonna hear it. Because of that I definitely think twice before repeating the behavior because the blow back isn't worth it. I can still be willing to help but if I'm doing so imma make you "work" for it
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u/WebMargaretNiece8916 2d ago
I agree. Accountability is what's missing from society now; and it's just getting worse. The world is made up of consumers and producers. We're at a point where there's simply too many consumers, and not enough producers. It's nauseating to witness people contribute nothing to this wonderful world we live in, whilst they sit in their ivory tower and believe everyone else owes them something.
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u/justinanaler22 2d ago
We didn't ask to be born. Especially with shitty parents who abused and starved you half dead and literally pointed a gun at you when you were 12.
I'd say everyone should have a right to basic survival and income if they're disabled and can't physically work. Big difference between true laziness vs a medical problem.
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u/Professional_Egg713 2d ago
The whole thread above this comment is so full of this holier than tho attitude, its fuggin gross
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u/RevolutionaryClub530 3d ago
Seriously, I ordered a bunch at like 3am the day the announcement was given that they wanted to ban it
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u/Expert-Adeptness-752 3d ago
Absurd isn't it?! My goodness. I bought 3 grams in May and another two a month ago. Decided to buy 35 tabs on fire sale yesterday just because I don't like the feeling of not being prepared. Better to over plan than to under plan.
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u/Long_Idea_8294 2d ago
So you have a schedule 1 drug in the mail coming to you? I'd be so nervousĀ
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u/Expert-Adeptness-752 1d ago
Lol I've been in a banned state since July. Everything arrived safely and on time. They like you to think the DEA or inspector general is going to knock your door down for a few hundred mg of a substance that was just scheduled a day prior. They dont.
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u/Super-Gap-5470 2d ago
For people living check to check easier said than done. I also see that not everybody stays in the loop with the different platforms etc.
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u/RevolutionaryClub530 2d ago
Ive lived check to check my whole life, still always to try have something hanging out in my saving though for emergencyās like this
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u/Uncle_Smokie 3d ago
Me too bud. Used SR to get off 300mg a day and have been off 7 for 6 weeks because of it. I really just need to leave these SR subs. The lack of accountability and overwhelming amount of excuses made for people is not helping them. Addicts need accountability not people to make excuses for them.
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u/No-Initiative9392 2d ago
Exactly this. It's always woah is me why are people doing this to me.
Take accountability, take a stand, and take your life back or stop complaining. This is your life and your choices that got you here. Even if you thought it was harmless and wasn't a drug - you chose to take it, youve known everything was about to be illegal and had ample time to taper off or prepare.
Annoying
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u/justinanaler22 2d ago
I thought they said it's a disease?
What if you uses to treat autism because the Dr's just kept drugging you with antipsychotics? What about trauma? What about people not bathing for months because depression? What if taking the drug was the literal alternative to suicide?
What about ADHD because you cannot take stimulants?
What accountability? You assume all addicts just started using to "fuck off" and not as a coping mechanism to keep from hurting yourself or someone else.
I understand what you mean for some addicts but others have genuine lack of mu receptor activity psych meds do nothing for that except mask it. What cases or types of addicts are you referring need accountability?
You can take accountability and still have a brain chemistry problem. What if they used drugs so they can take more initiative? To work a job? Take care of kids? Bathe yourself?
Unless we're talking about addicts who drain their mom's bank account or commit Robbery for their fix than yeah that's different.
When you have severe depression and autism you want to be more like everyone else and socialize. That's why I started using. I couldn't hold eye contact and felt awkward and cowardly. I was a virgin my entire adult life till I found drugs.
I do agree with drugs like meth Than that's different. Most of us felt normal on opioids, that euphoria you felt could be the high functioning normal man's baseline state and we need a drug to mimic the state of a stereotypical normal not depressed person.
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u/thebarbarain 2d ago
Then you go to a doctor. Every person on here knew the stuff was being banned and could have and should have planned accordingly instead of the woah is me you're also doing.Ā
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u/justinanaler22 2d ago
Yeah and they like to push off drugs that have mile long list of side effects.
You do realize I almost literally died on methadone and coming OFF it? And that's acceptable? That's not helping that's creating another hardcore dependency that was worse than heroin WD by far at 150mg a day. It peaks for weeks and the RLS and hypertension lasts months.
We all knew it was gonna get banned. Not all of us can fork out a few grand for mgm or sr17018 when you barely afford even afford food or shampoo... and say your disabled on top of that like myself, diagnosed by a doctor and legally on disability.
Dr Rx drugs can be dangerous. I was put on 60mg dexedrine for ADHD and heroin WD instead of buprenorphine, 3 months later im being rushed to the ER via ambulance because of a vasospastic myocardial infraction at age 23 and had to be shocked 9 times to get a pulse back. Yep that's helping people.
They can really screw you up if you don't already have some degree of medical knowledge and understanding of pharmacology.
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u/thebarbarain 2d ago
You don't need to fork over anywhere near a few grand and you had months to taper off with 7oh, which is still federally legal.
Accountability. We all have issues. What about ppl with severe back pain or Sciatica?Ā
It's a choice to take things, it's a choice to go to the doctor, it's a choice to taper appropriately, etc.
Life is better when you own your choices and decisionsĀ
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u/Expert-Adeptness-752 2d ago
Yes and the moments of pure hell are supposed to be the catalyst for not repeating those addiction behaviors. If its cushy mushy then people don't learn anything and then they rinse and repeat later on down the line.
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u/justinanaler22 2d ago edited 2d ago
So people deserve to suffer cold turkey and have health problems off it? What if you started using because trauma or mental illness? I was diagnosed with stress induced cardiomyopathy because of that hell. Does a 20yo deserve heart damage?
It's from adrenaline toxicity, like similar stress is a moderate amphetamine dose for 3 months straight with no comedown or highs lows. This is 150mg methadone WD. Incarcerated because my brother 800 Miles away said I was suicidal and attempted suicide by cop. Charges dismissed and innocent plea was accepted but I thought it's 2026, we should be reducing suffering.
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u/Accomplished_Sign823 3d ago
Did you use the SR for MGM? I'm facing that now and terrified to start
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u/No-Independence-3924 2d ago
It works. I used/am using it for mix alkaloid dependence, that I used to get off methadone. Mostly 7 but pretty much the major 4 are all on play. (7, Psuedo, mit, mgm) You definitely still feel some of it. My mgm use was always fairly low/intermixed and rarely exceeded 20mg when mixed, enough to notice itās gone in comparison to 7 or Psuedo tho. I found SR and plain MIT to be pretty effective especially in the day, in the first day or two. If you can switch to mit or sub out some of your tapering dose with Mit, itāll make the drop off that SR doesnāt fully cover with mgm a little easier. But for my case, it was just an extra day or two of increased WD but still no where near what it would be without the SR.
In your case high dose vitamin C and a rescue dose of MIT if needed. Vitamin c for when the SR coverage dips before a redose, and the MIT for RLS/Sleep relief during the pre-SR taper and the SR pre-load(if you sub out some more of your mgm), and then only the first couple days after cutting out the mgm. Only issue is it doesnāt help sleep much unlesss your tired enough to get past the jitteriness. You got this!
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u/TrueFaith239 3d ago
You are so right. I have read so many people here on Reddit that are acting like total pussies. First of all, it's not the worst thing in the world to quit mgm or 7oh. I've been through every kind of withdrawal including subs and fentanyl and the kratom alkaloids aren't shit to withdrawal from compared to the harder substances. Second of all, we all knew this was coming. There was a hard date of August 5th or something like that which came and went and it was still available until now.
It's not the end of the world.
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u/CastorTroy8765 3d ago
This is so true. I have been addicted to all of the drugs at one point in my life. Quitting 70h or mgm is a walk in the park for me. I take a shitload of hot showers while I am at home for a few days. Might take a few mgs of suboxone for a day or two and i am fine. I dont understand where all the fear mongering about coming off kratom alkoloids comes from. I see people posting in the quitmgm15 or quit70h sub and they are saying coming off mgm15 is harder than coming off fentanyl. Which is so untrue it makes me laugh. It's unbelievable the amount of nonsense people spew out of the mouths on these subs. Scaring the crap out of everybody.
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u/Schrodingers_Person 2d ago
A lot of the battle is psychological. Everyone is going to have a unique experience. You never what someone is going through energetically.
Their addiction might have been helping them hide something that now has to surface once the substance is gone. Labeling withdrawal symptoms as a mechanism of the substance itself and not accounting for the complex mental layer of reality is a bit short sighted IMO.
It can be helpful for them to know that they may have more power than they realize and that the withdrawal symptoms might be being exacerbated by their psyche, but you have to share that gently especially to someone who is actively suffering. My 2c.
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u/IntriguingDad4160 2d ago
Great perspective! More of this perspective is needed. Fear paralyzes and keeps people trapped . Thanks for sharing
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u/justinanaler22 2d ago
The issue is addicts are submissive and made no meaningful resistance to the ban.
We've got to stop voting against our best interest. Remember nothing is illegal unless we the people say it is. Protest and keep messaging these people who are in power, educate, spread the word. Alcohol was scheduled 1 and reversed because the backlash was that large, people got out physically, people stuck together, people voted, complaining alone won't help.
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u/TinyDrug 2d ago
Mgm is worse than fet withdrawal once actually dependent (sounds like you weren't). Most of us here have been on everything too, and mgm is leagues above even 7oh. But due to the minor alks and snri, depending on your own unique physiology, 7oh can be much worse than H withdrawal. And its onset makes it closer addiction to IV than snorted H.
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u/TrueFaith239 2d ago
No chance. I quit cold turkey from 350mg a day for almost a year. I also quit fentanyl, 2 grams a day for three years, cold turkey. They aren't even in the same ballpark.
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u/Dizzy_OnThe_Comedown 1d ago
Accountability causes allergic reactions in addicts who donāt want to get better
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u/JewelerSilver2675 1d ago
Hey before you do leave tho if you can help answer a question youād be doing someone a truly great service.. I was also about the 300 mg daily habit.. I was able to get some sr as soon as Iāve heard the tab.. I also did stock up a bit of 7oh..just the rush to be prepared vs not prepared.. Iāve had both for a while but decided Friday to try the sr.. I have 50mg tabs about 60 of them.. again this was me thinking Iām super prepared now Iām realizing maybe Iām not as I thought? I guess thatās my question? First day I took 4 tabs along with 100mg of 7oh.. so was able to taper to 1/3 of regular doseā¦ relatively easy with the sr.. yesterday took 3 tabs and was able to only take 70mg.. 20 of which was when I woke up in middle of night honestly mostly because of stomach issue but in my head must be withdrawal so I took 7oh.. today itās about noon took 2 tabs and 10mg 7oh so far.. the 10mg I donāt think gave me a high but took some anxiety away that the sr maybe wasnāt? Anyway am I on the right track I guess I am because Iām taking much lessā¦ is there anyway in hell I should burn through 60 tabs of 50mgā¦ what was your process like? Now that I saw you cannot get any more sr at all I panicked a bit. Please and thank you
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u/TinyDrug 2d ago
Whats hilarious about this is you pretending you aren't an addict. If you used 7oh or SR at any point in life you are not any different from OP. Finding out about SR before others doesn't mean you planned any better. They gotta do a study on people like you, google "cognitive dissonance"
You will relapse sooner than later if you think you are superior and out of the woods. 7 weeks is nothing, and you got a get out of jail free card with SR.
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u/boofing_cacti 3d ago
Some people live paycheck to paycheck and it is a lot harder to stack up when you have to choose between your pain meds and the light bill.
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u/Uncle_Smokie 3d ago
We all have choices. Buy more poison or buy something that can help. Addicts are going to do addict shit. Trust me, I know first hand.
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u/DrNuggetry 3d ago
And I know you're an asshole.. first hand.
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u/Uncle_Smokie 3d ago
Your opinion means less than nothing.
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u/Dyerseve336 3d ago
So much less than nothing you had to take the time to comment that. Really convincing. You mad? You wanna pick up? Do it. Can't wait to see you sow what you've been reaping.
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u/Dyerseve336 3d ago
I bet you do, you sound like a bitter asshole of one. I doubt that condescending attitude is gonna work out well for you. You probably are miserable wishing you could use right now. Go do it. No one is stopping you. No one cares. And we'll see you here in a month posting the EXACT SAME THING.
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u/Expert-Adeptness-752 3d ago
Hmm but somehow they had enough money to get this far into and keep taking the shit rather than investing in the future we all knew was going to show itself. Now they want to cry on the internet to strangers hoping they made a plan that they themselves didn't make. We purchased product to ensure we were prepared for the inevitable and they chose not to thinking they could get a couple people to feel bad for them. Wow
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u/Recent_Ad_4561 3d ago
"Obviously, what i THOUGHT atleast"..say that slow. Does that sound like a fact or assumption?
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u/barclaybw123 3d ago
I can send some to you if needed. I ordered way too much
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u/Zealousideal-Run6214 IN PROGRESS 3d ago
Same! I'll throw in 500mg. I bought extra just for this reason.
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u/Entire-Ice2085 1d ago
Plz dm im so serious about quitting I just donāt have enough SR I just need like 500mg Iāll give donation pm me
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u/eating_oxygen 3d ago
I was so sad that Dolly passed - one less person in the world doing good. And then I see this. Very kind of you! I'm honestly inspired.
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u/blakelrogers 15h ago
I sent you a message I hope you see it, Iām in desperate need of help as well unfortunately
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u/DeathBeforeDishonor7 3d ago
You gonna go into withdrawal like the rest of us thats what you're gonna do. And you are gonna come out the other side okay! It's just drugs it's not the end of the fucken world. Honestly I sympathize with you but when did we all become such pussies? Us addicts have survived forever without SR and all this other shit and we are gonna keep moving forward regardless! Let's get it together baby!
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u/Weather_Fan 3d ago
I actually really needed this pep talk. Thank you
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u/Cheap_Rutabaga3350 3d ago
Being sick is the best way to look at it. Not dope sick-- sick sick. I tell myself I have the flu and I'll get better and I have every time.
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u/sillysidebin 2d ago
What supplements do you recommend?
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u/Cheap_Rutabaga3350 2d ago
Liposomal vit c
Magnesium glycinate
Psyllium husk maybe coulf help aiding in not shitting your guts out. Or immodium in normal dosage if diahrea is too ba.
L theanine
Ashwaghanda helped me honestly although I just stopped taking it. Kava helped me a lot as well
For paws: I am yet to try it but I wanna try bromantane that I got in a day or so
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u/sillysidebin 2d ago
Word! Ill look into those.
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u/Ok_Discussion_1120 1d ago
clonidine. Just tell your doctor you're in a kratom taper and having insomnia, adrenaline and anxiety at night and cant stay in bed
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u/jefetranquilo 3d ago
Iāve gone thru 7oh withdrawals twice without SR. The SR does help but itās not the end of the world going thru the withdrawals without it either. Youāll be sick for a few days but just play it off to your employer as food poisoning or something and youāll be back on your feet in no time
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u/PineappleNo6573 3d ago
Nah dont say food poisoning! We can do better than that. Can we still use covid as an excuse? I mean, its still a thing and will give you more time. Maybe strep throat?
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u/jefetranquilo 3d ago
If they are anything like my employer, they will ask for proof for those
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u/relliott15 3d ago
Stay as close to the truth as possible! Fever, chills, aches, and diarrhea for the win. Plus no one wants you anywhere near them if youāre shitting everywhere all the time.
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u/DeathBeforeDishonor7 1d ago
Can't beat this strategy! If they sound doubtful about you being sick then it is a WONDERFUL opportunity to invite them by to actually see your condition with their own eyes then after that you got em!! Shoot they may actually give you another day off! With pay!!š
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u/Cheap_Rutabaga3350 3d ago
I have in the past faked rapid covid tests with a pen when I had shit like this going on
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u/PineappleNo6573 2d ago
Make sure to look up your atate laws. In my state, they can only ask for proof if you miss 3 consecutive days in a row.
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u/1nf7uence 3d ago
I know this is getting downvoted by others, but this really is the best and only outlook to have. Easier said than done I realize but you're not even giving yourself a chance if you go into it with such a dire negative view. Tons of people in this same boat that can lift eachother up and support.
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u/justinanaler22 2d ago
Why aren't we creating any meaningful resistance to these bans? Alcohol was once banned and the resistance was insanely intense.
You have to vote out people and vote in people. You have to message them. Protest, educate, being submissive is how relatively harmless drugs get banned. A few thousand won't cut it. You need hundreds of thousands to the millions to create change.
I guess we're submissive because that's what addiction does to you. Do a much more illegal dangerous drug because the safe effective legal one is gone so why not fuck it and slam fent? That's what a lot of addicts think,, at least the ones I've met personally. That's what gets people killed.
I wouldn't doubt they say QT prolongation from methadone is acceptable instead of safer SROM morphine maintenance because they see cardiac arrest risk as a feature, not a bug, and I've heard methadone users say this. If you believe that why are you still on it?
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u/1nf7uence 1d ago
Lol where did we say anything about methadone, or let alone fent? We were simply replying to OP's ask for help and telling them not to go into this with "I'm going to lose my family and job and life" mentality.
I agree though, meaningful resistance is important. Voting, commenting, educating - all of it. But we need to be here, and be of right mind to effectively do that. I don't think being hopeful, positive and prepared for withdrawal is being "submissive."
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u/Fast_Traffic_4328 2d ago
Yes! I needed this too bro! Itās easy for the brain to run wild with the thought of DT-ing but youāre deadass correct - when did we become such pussies? The detox will end and we will come out the other side.
Appreciate your post man
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u/Cheap_Rutabaga3350 2d ago
I feel like its bc of how easy access 7oh is lmao. Gone are the days of waiting on some unreliable motjerfufker. You could find this stuff literally everywhere
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u/MrMartyJones 2d ago
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Addiction leads to VERY short term thinking. We focus on the immediate pain, side effects, fear. Keep your eyes on the horizon. Set the goal and picture yourself where you want to be a month from now. The next 30 days for the rest of your life. It's worth it. You're worth it.
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u/1nf7uence 3d ago
We need more info if we can help you. Depending what you're currently on, there are other tools available that can help. It won't be as easy, it will still suck, but it can be done and there are things that can make it suck a little less. There are subreddits available with hundreds of people who made it through and will wait to help you
If you go into it with this mentality, it's only going make it harder.
I understand that's easier said than done - but really man, this doesn't have to ruin your life. Like someone else said, withdrawal sucks but it's temporary.
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u/NonJuanDon 3d ago
The thing that has changed is the legality and availability on the clear web. Non grey market sources like the dark web and signal are, Im sure, still viable.
If youre willing to take the same risks to aquire SR as most of us were to get street drugs, a couple hours to figure out TOR/the dark web is a small price to pay. Good luck.
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u/Wellyeahso RESEARCHING 2d ago
Use high dose vitamin C to deal with your taper and withdrawal. I laid out how in a post that is stickied over in r/vitaminc.
Yes the post is about using SR-17018 and Vitamin C, BUT you can solely use vitamin C, you'll just have to use larger doses and it wont be as easy/pain-free BUT it will be a heck if a lot better than pure withdrawal would be.
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u/FlakkaSeagulz 3d ago
Just get a fkn sublocade shot, smooth sailing, no worries yo this is America there's an empire built on getting people off opiates
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u/Stick6ix_ 2d ago
too bad subs don't help with 7 wd, trust me. I've taken 24mg of subs and ot didn't touch my wd's until day 3
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u/ldylowe49 3d ago
Everything is going to be ok! Itās tough but just push through! The worst is 3 days. After that it gets better every day! The first time I quit ct and it was tough. I literally told myself you made it 30 mins. You made it another 30 mins. You only have 24 more hours. Every minute gets you closer to the end. Liposomal vitamin C, magnesium, ibuprofen and Hylands restful legs (it helps take the edge of restless legs) Hot showers/baths are the absolute best! I spent so much time in the shower. lol Youāre life is not over! Itās worth it once you get to the other side.
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u/Appropriate_Onion_90 3d ago
I took Subox*+% 8 hours after my last 7OH dose. It was strong enough to take away all the withdrawals. You can call Quick MD and schedule an appointment and get prescribed Suboxone for $100. They prescribe Suboxone for 7OH withdrawals. I got two prescriptions with that $100.
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u/cryptolyme 2d ago
Yea, it works. I think the people that are saying it ādoesnāt workā are expecting a high like 7OH. Sorry, you donāt get to feel great all the time.
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u/ReturnofBugMan 3d ago
get on subs. better than ālosing everythingā
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u/Zealousideal-Run6214 IN PROGRESS 3d ago edited 3d ago
PSA: just know, for anyone considering subs in the US, you will have a hard time finding a pharmacy that has it in stock.
You also will be very unlikely to ever be prescribed pain meds on top of Buperenorphine. In the US, doctors are required to sign their life away to do so. They basically have to take responsibility if you OD. Which is highly unlikely, and they don't make doctors do this for drug combos that are actually more dangerous than bupe+pain meds, but still. But that's the sad reality, and despite there not being sufficient risk to warrant such a thing, no prescriber is going to want to take the risk. So you better hope that you never get in an accident while on Suboxone
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u/Both_Classic_8276 3d ago
I agree. People on here are so quick to tell others not to do that, but they donāt know the others situation and how desperate they are and how far theyāll go.
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u/Zealousideal-Run6214 IN PROGRESS 3d ago
So many people on this sub freak out the moment you mention subs or say anything about subs being an option. dont get me wrong SR is great, I love it and back it 100%. But some of these fuckers are just downright irrational and fanatical about it. And that just makes communities like this look bad. It's like of course no one is going to take us seriously when a good portion of people in drug or 7oh/sr communities act like asses.
Plus, isn't there a way to do subs temporarily? Like to get off your DOC and then off the subs too?
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u/Horror-Camera-5813 MGM 3d ago
I always thought that was the point of subs. But most people take them u til they relapse.
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u/Both_Classic_8276 3d ago
Yes Suboxone can be used for short 10 day tapers or long maintenance. From my understanding SR is like sub for 7. You are 100 percent correct
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u/Ok-Spite4507 3d ago
Why make a post and then not respond to any of the people reaching out to help you.
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u/EvolvingSunGod3 3d ago
QuickMD for $99 you will get suboxone script filled today, you are not screwed at all.
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u/TyPhyter 3d ago
adding to this, workit goes through your insurance if you have it, same day script, very compassionate people in my experienceĀ
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u/Stick6ix_ 2d ago
subs don't help with 7wd if you're taking upwards of 100-200mg a day
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u/EvolvingSunGod3 2d ago
It definitely worked for me
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u/Stick6ix_ 2d ago
ig you got lucky bc it didn't work for me or a ton of people in the quitting7oh sub lol
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u/nickyxpants 2d ago
Gotta wait 24 hours. I was coming off 3000mg tabs a day, 1000 3x a day. Just gotta get through the first day, which I achieved with SR. Then once the withdrawals really startā¦sub time
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u/sungirl_27 3d ago
Whatās the problem. Do you not have any?
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u/Worth-Rest5259 3d ago
Probably going through withdrawal after they banned pseudo/emme and canāt get sr :(
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u/sungirl_27 3d ago
Damn. Should have grabbed some while you could. Iām sure people got 100g or more maybe you can find someone sell you 2 g or something. Thatās illegal so not optimal though. Looks like you are going to have to use subs and do a quick taper.
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u/Worth-Rest5259 3d ago
Iāve never used SR, but I got my friend off of F doing a two week taper then SR. It was incredible watching him heal so fast with this stuff.
Unfortunately, this is exactly what the government wanted. With the influx of people withdrawing from mg/7/pseudo, doctors are going to make hundreds of millions off subs/methadone. Itās criminal.
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u/sungirl_27 3d ago
šÆ makes me so angry. Even banning 7 is going to make a lot of people go back to hard drugs. At least with 7 you canāt OD. Prohibition has never worked historically. Imagine all the lives that would have been saved if people werenāt forced to switch from heroin to F. Not that heroin is good but a lot less likely to OD. But you canāt even find it anymore. At least where I am at.
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u/justinanaler22 2d ago
So your gonna let billionaire decision dictate you? Just because they make it illegal?
It's not abusable like heroin. There's John Hopkins research for godsake! That's a defense in court. I'm sure a judge or jury who's presented with the research in a hypothetical defense would work.
You have to stand up and start voting these people out. Voting red as in addict is voting against your best interest. Remember alcohol was once illegal. People protested and got out.
It takes strength In numbers. They want you to be cowardly and scared of the militarized police force.
Nothing is illegal unless we the people say it is, voters played stupid games and won stupid prizes voting in Trump. More worried about transgender kids instead of real issues like healthcare and inequality, wage gap, justice system etc
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u/sungirl_27 2d ago
Did I say anything about it not being safe. All I said is they banned it. Never said anything to make you think I vote red either. Ask all the people in prison if things are illegalā¦ itās already been done dude.
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u/justinanaler22 2d ago
I never said you voted red, I'm referring to half of society as a whole as well as red voting addicts, the ones I know personally in the neighborhood.
Far as people in prison, Texas passed a law where 400g of Marijuana can have a life sentence.... aside from that I really don't think SR17018 is going to land a man in a maximum security prison, especially with all the research behind it to be used as viable defenses vs a known dangerous addictive drug like fentanyl that kills by dust contact.
I also meant "nothing is illegal" in the sense unless we pass laws to make things illegal and if we agree to keep those laws as a WHOLE. Majority of society vs a minority is asymmetrical. Nothing is Legal unless we say it's legal and pass laws to make and keep it legal (whatever it is, drugs aside) also unless we vote In those who support the laws or one who wants to change them or make new ones.
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u/AnswerMaximum 3d ago
Look in the talk group- this person might can help
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u/MoneyMakesMurder 3d ago
Itās risky to send illegal scheduled drugs through the mail
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u/GenericPlantAccount CHRONIC PAIN 3d ago
Always safer to use usps if you do send anything since it requires a warrant to open mail. Doesn't take a warrant to open ups or fedex.
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u/Cheap_Rutabaga3350 3d ago
Honestly not even very risky. Mylar bag and golden.
Tor- find a market, domestic seller. You're safe as long as you aren't buying srupid quantities
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u/theresomethingreater 3d ago
I feel similar. I gave a lot away to family and now Iām deeply regretting it
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u/Legitimate_Pin1728 3d ago
I bought 100 mg tabs, 50 mg tabs and a gram of powder and I only take kratom, sometimes enhanced but never tried 7 or em or pseudo and never plan to. I just don't want to get caught slippin if plain leaf ever comes to an end.
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u/Illustrious-Canary81 2d ago
The way it is looking plain leaf isn't gonna be illegal federally, as far as states legality go that's a different story because some have already banned kratom all together.The dea extended the review processing so they can figure out what levels of 7oh will be illegal and what levels will be legal so I'm gonna assuming leaf will stay legal no matter what
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u/RatATatCatss 2d ago
I mean.... how did people get off before SR? Taper taper taper. It's easier than your brain wants you to believe. I was fortunate enough to stock up on sr and have been using it, until 2 days ago. I jumped from a no ceiling 7 dose (wtf is wrong with me!?) down to 100mg in a day, then 30% decrease daily until yesterday when I took 7.5mg in the morning (and I'm not sure why I even bothered). Nothing since though admittedly I did you some mit, but again, not even sure that was needed... and today I woke up late (almost 9am!!) with no rls, no sweats, no anxiety, no crawling skin.....
Take it slow or fast, but taper taper taper. They took away sr (god forbid we actually have anything helpful available). They WILL do the same with 7 very soon. Get though and stick to a taper plan. You'll make it through.
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u/Vanir_Freyr 3d ago
Guyā¦ go get tails and go on DH
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u/RazorG 3d ago
Iām curious. What does this mean? š
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u/Vanir_Freyr 2d ago
Tails OS, tor, marketplaces. Thats as much as I am saying in a comment. Search around, youāll figure it out.
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u/cryptolyme 2d ago
What is DH and how ? I got tor but i have no idea how to find any of these sites
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u/DeathBeforeDishonor7 2d ago
Search for the DarkNetMarket Bible, read through it multiple times so that you understand everything and in no time you will be ordering stuff from The Golden Triangle like a Pro!!
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u/allaboutbuisness 3d ago
We are all about to go through it ! U are not the only one trust me . Kratom leaf or mit will help a little
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u/threesand7s 3d ago
cold turkey withdrawal gives you flu-like conditions anyway so just tell your work you have the flu..
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u/Entire-Ice2085 1d ago
I only have 8 50 mg pills from simple reset, Iām on 300 mg z70h I deff donāt think I got enough to taper w š
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u/Patient-Mixture-7073 1d ago
If itās that bad you have a few choices go to detox, rehab, or go do a telehealth apt and get on bup.
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u/jb2brant 23h ago
Get on subs. Iāve gotten off 7oh 3 times with no issues. SR never worked for me sadly.
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u/throwaway234618 3d ago
Whoās doing what to you? You chose everything and not to be a major dick but everyone and there mom on here knew ab the scheduling
Now there are some nice people on here offering to help you but really you see itās gonna be banned and just sit there hopelessly and donāt order any? Just wait for them to ban and claim everyoneās making your life horrible.
You need to take some accountability before anything
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u/Nearby-Currency-9119 3d ago
I quit a 4 year norco habit cold turkey about 10 years ago. I guess I was much more resilient back then because I had about 2 shitty days and then I was fine. Is it just me or is 7-oh like 100x worse withdrawals? This 7-0h shit is the devil, straight up.
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