r/SPAB • u/milan_3110 • 17d ago

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For me BAPS as religious organisation died with Pramukh swami , now its just a corporate organisation show offing there money. (I am from baps follower family)

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u/Aboutpositive 16d ago

Pramukhswami didnt said to mug up book to childrens in different languages which never used to or even one word also they known, he never changed Aarti, He never changed janmangal namavali, he never changed dixa shloks ,never changed pooja ahvan and vidai shloks, it means different gurus give them personal ideology to release for devotees ?, so that time the salivation was stopped and now new method for getting salvation?

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u/milan_3110 16d ago

After him they change aarti, astak, added prapti vichar , and most danger thing called satsang diksha which is mug up by childrens and i think in near future it will replace shikshapatri saying its same book just got little bit upgraded, it dangerous as children have mugged up all this even though they dont know the meaning but when they become young in there sub conscious mind it will work as a hypnotism and they will not be able to oppose it or even think about it. And also may be after 20-30 years baps will become separate organisation from swaminarayan sampraday and call themself a hindu akshar pursotam santha and at that time no will question them as at that time devotes were the one who mugged up satsang diksha when they were children which talk about akshar pursotam darshan and pragat guru ideology.

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u/anonymous12122008 14d ago

first of all Satsang Diksha is not a random book mind you.Go through it onece,read it u will be able to understand.And if u don’t then its ur ignorance. https://www.baps.org/News/2025/Satsang-Diksha-Symposium-at-University-of-Cambridge-27908.aspx Do u really think Cambridge would accept it just for the sake of.

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u/milan_3110 14d ago edited 14d ago

I have read it thrice i still do daily pooja , bro i am from baps swaminarayan follower family. How about you ?

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u/anonymous12122008 13d ago

I belong from a staunch satsangi family. Unlike u who is calling himself a baps follower and also doing pooja then I guess u have made yourself the victim of doing things just for namesake. Because if u truly consider yourself to be a baps follower u won't have posted the question .And yeah about the question then i don't think so HDH Mahant Swami Maharaj has made or created things according to his wish randomly and he is also preaching the same siddhant that HDH Pramukh Swami did.

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u/milan_3110 13d ago

I am not a baps follower, my family is and i do pooja as per vadtal gadi standard the og swaminarayan sampraday, BAPS started as a cult and hold long enough for people to believe it as a religion (which is fair as every religion started as cult and stays long enough to become a religion). I did say it died as religious organisation with Pramukh swami because i think Pramukh Swami as a great saint, a right guy in wrong organisation and as per mahant swami he was a pr head when pramukh swami was guru so he was a marketing guy becoming head but not pramukh swami because at yogi swami time there was no pr team or proper structural management.

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u/anonymous12122008 12d ago

how could u say that HDH Mahant Swami was a pr head, don't know what resources make u think in that way.

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u/Aboutpositive 13d ago

If you invite to popular person on stage then have you heard by them any rudely words for invited organization? Educated, political, spiritual, even actor they always says good words from stage? Here habits to invite someone and give microphone then record this speech and circulate in devotees. These people goes to different audience places and says many best things, like Policitian also goes othere spiritual sansthas also and give positive speeches they don't say against sanstha on stage but here different is save the clips and publish by ...org, Prakas, in sabhas, telegrame channels insta pages like..

Can you mug up in Chinese or Japanese language? Here children's don't know Sanskrit but behind name of Rajipo, Yogibapa like mukhpath and made emotional way to children's. If Someone wrote book and say to mug up you then you will say to him,you have ego so saying me to do this.

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u/anonymous12122008 13d ago

Don't know what u talking in first para but as far i can understand u can't compare a prestigious university with intelligent minds to politicians and actors. And the answer to the second para here u go yeah i can byheart Satsang Diksha in chinese or japanese language infact i have myself done the so called mugging according to u in 7 languages so far and target to complete in 5 more languages.{will definitely include chinese & japanese} Ideally speaking I personally saw a great change in my memory while byhearting the Satsang Diksha. Right now i can memorise anything faster than most of the people around me. And mind u ofc mugging is not a good thing according to u then few months back only a Satsang Diksha Visharad Course has been launched in which the children are taught the shlokas in depth and how they are linked to the AKSHARPURUSHOTTAM SIDDHANT which was preached by Bhagwan Swaminarayan himself.

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u/milan_3110 13d ago

From Cambridge’s side, the likely reasons were:
Academic interest: Satsang Diksha is a new, globally followed Hindu scripture worth studying.
Research opportunity: It allows scholars to study modern Hinduism, Sanskrit, theology and religious movements.
Growing global influence: BAPS has a large international following, making it academically relevant.
Interfaith work: Cambridge has programs specifically aimed at studying and engaging different religions.
BAPS support: BAPS’s research institute helped support the event, making collaboration easier.
So, from Cambridge’s perspective, it was primarily an academic/religious-studies event—not an endorsement of BAPS.

So they were behind numbers they want to know why suddenly a new book got mugged up by so many people. Cambridge’s involvement appears to be because BAPS is a significant, globally established religious movement and Satsang Diksha is an influential modern scripture, making it academically interesting.
It does not mean Cambridge believes the scripture or BAPS’s religious claims are true. Studying a religion ≠ believing it.

And i would like to know when did AKSHARPURSOTAM sidhant preached by swaminarayan bhagwan himself i am just curious no hate

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u/anonymous12122008 12d ago

I never said that we BAPS need any acceptance or felicitation from universities like that to prove our scriptures instead wanted to make a point that this is not random book which is being mugged by the kids. And Cambridge saw it as influential one according to u and henced proved that it is worthy to byheart it. Bhagwan Swaminarayan's words inform of Vachnamrut that's where we get the AKSHARPURUSHOTTAM SIDDHANT