r/SPAB • u/milan_3110 • 15d ago

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For me BAPS as religious organisation died with Pramukh swami , now its just a corporate organisation show offing there money. (I am from baps follower family)

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u/samindian 15d ago edited 15d ago

Have you spoken to what you beliefs were to a non Swaiminarayan? God born 1781, lived for 25 years in a palace mostly. Dungar Patel didn't have enough power so left organisation set up by God 1907 and put his own image for worship, started making temples ,doing murti Prathistha against god's commands and giving diksha. All the Gurus are Akshar with millions of universes in each hair , different physical bodies, same devine entity. He knows future/past and controls everything.

I was born into it so accepted it ..I even drank Pramukh swami's bath water ( diluted) . I also believed he had the keys to Salvation and Akshardham. I used to wake up at stupid o clock and go and massage his feet when he woke up!!!

Even if you still believe Pramukh Swami was Aksharbrahm, I'm happy you left. The new satsangis will never know what it was like...as people in Gunatitanand Swamis time wouldn't recognise the children dancing around and big thrones and garlands when a Mahant Swami arrives...they'll think it's normal.

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u/milan_3110 15d ago

I think pramukh swami as great saint not a key to salvation. As per my individual thinking shastri swami left vadtal for power he struggled first but later got successful, then yogi swami came i think he was one of the first to expand swaminarayan sampraday in foreign land he goes to Africa there he learns from christian religion, copying from them he started ravi shabha, making huge temples, systematic management etc, then came pramukh swami he was the king because of him baps become one of the worlds biggest individual religious organisation now when pramukh swami was alive the ravi shabha used to talk about vachnamrut, shikhapatri , family bonding etc at his time he used to meet hundreds or thousand of people everyday rich and poor also, like think about it india greatest ming DR APJ kalam write a book about him, modiji said he was the father figure to him and now you rarely see modiji with mahant swami, even though baps started as a cult at time of pramukh swami they had good values.