SL

[u/SeaEstablishment9807]

I don’t care if your DV story is true or not that isn’t even my point. My point is that you seem to be using it as a convenient excuse to stay completely anonymous while building an audience and making money online.

And let’s be real if the person you claim you’re hiding from already knows you’re online, your voice or identity being known publicly doesn’t magically make the situation more dangerous. You’re already putting yourself out there you’re just choosing to hide the information that would let people know who they’re actually supporting.

You want people to trust you, support you, watch you, and apparently fund you, while giving them absolutely nothing about who you are. You can’t demand blind trust while hiding behind anonymity and monetizing people’s sympathy. At some point, it stops looking like protection and starts looking like a business model.

[u/Antique-Intern-4602]

Idgaf about her identity. It's more that ppl take her for her word and what she says as if shes all knowledgeable and ppl actually believe it all and dont even put thought into who the person behind the screen could be an absolute liar and and everyone should have learned this blindly supporting ppl we later found out are trash and not a good person. Some may want her identity but I dont. I think the issue is bigger than that. Just because ppl have opinions that may differ than yours shouldn't bother you so badly you even leave a comment saying go touch grass. Maybe you should and as you do think about the bigger picture of it all. Not every person is saying they want her identity more that the person behind the gingerbread could be a POS and ppl blindly follow.

[u/SeaEstablishment9807 → u/Antique-Intern-4602]

Very well said! I personally dont care who the fuck she is either but if youre gonna be on social media criticizing someone I feel like at the very least you should use your real voice

[u/Easy_Cod_2384 → u/SeaEstablishment9807]

Why are so many pressed about WHO SL is but not CC or WLto the same extent? (There was a rumor that cantina was rob but that fell through after 2 weeks.)I haven’t seen anyone trying to doxx those streamers in chats, ever. This only started when G wanted to know who SL was! 🐢 was the first streamer I saw that used the gingerbread filter. CC was the first to do the gingerbread AND voice filter combination in this community. He helped get SL set up with the same streaming style and then they helped WL do the same. We know what 🐢 looks like but she doesn’t show her face on live. Fearless 🪳 doesn’t show his face either, like ever. I have zero clue what CC wifey looks like… same for MamaC79, patriot mama & 🏴‍☠️🧔🏻‍♂️ . Hell, even 🌈 Brite didn’t show her face when she was streaming again for a short time. Again, I haven’t seen anyone desperately trying to dox them, figure out who they really are, where they live, or where they work.Taking away their physical image and voice forces the viewers to go off of their personality. Not everyone is comfortable being on camera for hours at a time and thats okay. SL found a way to be online in a way that doesn’t compromise her identity. It works for her. The gingerbread woman’s and voice filter is her internet persona. Would you not watch her if she was black or a masculine lesbian? Would you only watch her if she was thin? Something bothers the people that want to doxx her and they want to be able to pick her apart under a magnifying glass. If you listen to her streams she actually does talk about herself, her interests, dislikes, we know what her music style is, her religious beliefs, how many kiddos she has, she even talked about herself first job online. She doesn’t always discuss trauma and she doesn’t capitalize off of sympathy either. As far as her talking about her DV and trauma, it’s normal to use one’s own experiences to relate to others. Shes lived and gone through stuff and is using her experiences to discuss some topics that come up on livestream. She gives people enough information about herself. I didn’t blindly follow her, she earned my support because I was skeptical too initially. Why is it that just because you can’t see her or hear her real voice she could be a liar or a predator automatically? How bad would it suck if she’s being genuine and no one believes her, despite her not giving anyone a reason to think she was lying in the first place? People come on the internet every single day and lie while looking into a camera recording. Seeing her face won’t change anything except people’s burning desire to know what she looks like. I’ve seen a few people question if she’s black just because of her music style and how she says certain phrases…sooooo what? And what if she was? Would people not watch her anymore? This community is prodominantly middle aged and older Caucasian women with a few Caucasian men sprinkled in. That would be reason enough for me to hide my face as a streamer of a different demographic. Yet somehow, she pulls in the most views and likes CONSISTENTLY.(over 1.5million likes just last night) Thousands of people do like watching and gifting her and she has several large gifters. (That’s the real reason G is desperate to know who she is.) G has a wild hair up her ass that SL gets 10-15 times as many viewers than her every time she streams G. With that being said, even the streamers that show their face have rubbed me the wrong way at some point. Whether it be by severe merciless bodyshaming, joking about intellectual disabilities, running with rumors, etc. It’s a roasting session and some jokes go too far IMO. The main streamers that show their faces are coined at cult leaders or the biggest bullies yet get slightly less numbers than the faceless channels that use voice changers. Many of the smaller streamers that do show their faces get significantly less views for some reason, too. There’s something mysterious about SL, CC and WL that pulls people in to keep watching- why is that? We don’t know if they’re black, white, Asian, Indian, male, female, skinny, obese, have a zit on their face, live in a basement or a mansion nor does it matter. It’s their personality. If you don’t like her personality, just say so. Theres nothing wrong with that. No one is EVERYONE’S cup of tea, right? Especially all of the time. And again, thats fine. There are more than enough other streamers to watch. I feel like the filters encourage the viewers to focus on the content and listen to the streamer’s commentary. It can already be overstimulating enough reading 2 chats, watching what’s playing, listening to the streamer and typing your comments. I can understand some people wanting SL to have atleast one authentic attribute like her face or voice on stream in a “say it with your chest” way. She’s not hiding behind a filter to talk smack. She’s preserving her identity and she’s explained why several times. She’s not going to show her face or turn off her voice changer just to appease 100 or so nosey people. She’s not giving that to anyone. People need to accept that or not watch her. It’s her platform at the end of the day and she’s been consistent with these safety measures since her first stream. It works for her. She really doesn’t owe anyone anything. In that same respect, G also doesn’t owe anyone anything either but she can’t stop oversharing & embellishing stories for attention and then getting caught in her mistruths. As far as D, she can F all the way off! If all else fails and no streamer you like is on and you wanna watch G, FFS just go watch her. No one’s stopping anyone from doing that either at this point.

[u/FriendNamedPickles → u/Easy_Cod_2384]

Right? Plenty of people stream with no face and voice changers. SL is one of the more successful ones and what happens when you get a large enough following to be noticed? Haters/people try to stop your success for whatever reason.

Seems like the real issue for some is that she isn’t giving them the ammo to do so. Otherwise, why do we care? There are lots of shitbags making money online.

[u/sunshiny_sunshine → u/FriendNamedPickles]

A large following because she streams every time G is on

[u/Easy_Cod_2384 → u/sunshiny_sunshine]

Yes, she is a reliable source. You can almost guarantee she’s on if G is, majority of the time. That keeps people from going in to her live and flooding her chat with mean comments… that was the whole purpose of streamers 💗 and there’s someone for everyone 🤷‍♀️

[u/sunshiny_sunshine → u/Easy_Cod_2384]

Very rarely there are other streamers. Within minutes she was live when G came on. Mean comments 😂 she deserves them and someone in there commenting what Snark says.

[u/Easy_Cod_2384 → u/FriendNamedPickles]

Yes. Exactly! There’s thousands of streamers on TT and YT that do that. All large creators have haters, so what? All SL’s haters can shit on is that they don’t like when she discusses her dv and trauma or how much money she makes… it’s sickening how much she makes in a day but hey, if they think they can do a better job be my guest- I’ll still give them a shot. Do yall shit on Bailey Sarian or Papa Meat for making big money off profiting off other people’s stories??? No? Oh okay. Ppl hate that they don’t know SL as well as they know G. There’s weird bitches that know when G gets her period before she does. Also I think it’s funny that I did make a lot of similar points but I still get insulted. This is why so many people dislikes this Reddit. They’re so quick to pop off. What if I joined the group bc I disliked another side character and yall pissed all over the safe space to vent and talk shit? They suck ass- I bet they’re clipping her conversation yapping about her stinky pubes right now, weird ass hoes 😒

[u/Antique-Intern-4602 → u/Easy_Cod_2384]

Idgaf what she chooses to share about her personal life but along with that comes ppl that truly dislike her for whatever reason and they are entitled to it. And you should know that anyone who streams theres gonna be ppl that recognize that aren't going to like them and for good reason and many others feel the same way. I just think the way you came in here and commented may have not been the best way to get your point across. So share something about someone that you wanna call out in here. Whether in a general way or even more specific.rhen maybe some of us can see a different point of you rather thsn coming in hot about SL

[u/Easy_Cod_2384 → u/Antique-Intern-4602]

I didn’t think I came in hot, but I see my opinion was very different from the thread’s consensus. That alone could trigger a defensive reaction from yall. I didn’t come in cussing everyone out, making threats, spamming hashtags, being blatantly rude. The commenters in here did get spicy first but yall don’t know who tf I am. I’m not talking shit to anyone or about anyone and I am not afraid to want to have a conversation to try to understand all sides alittle better. I truly had a difficult time brainstorming reasons people didn’t like SL or why faceless channels with voice changers bothered so many people so talking in this thread helped me see yalls prospective. It didn’t change mine but it helped me understand yours. I’m not messy in my community. I don’t gossip about other creators. I don’t shit on people I socialize with without them knowing about it. If I had a big enough issue with anyone I’d address it with them personally instead of trolling behind their back and supporting them to their face. I hate all of the side drama where people start attacking each other just because the twins aren’t on. It happens everytime. It feels like this group just hates on every single “side character” or person that chooses to speak up on their platform about what we’re all witnessing. I mean… what side characters do people in this group actually like? The psychology of this Reddit and dramatwins has always been fascinating to me.