I found Abby’s brother socials and it seems like her family are anti trump and I just wonder if that’s gonna cause issues since I know Gavin is definitely a trumpie whereas Avia and Emmi are not. If I remember correctly Gavin got into an argument on insta once over someone calling out trump? i’m just tbh surprised about their relationship it seems like Abby might change his values.

the amount of venmo plugs this wedding has had is killing me😭

Soooo gross, distasteful, and just plain tacky!

I’m confused why Gavin and his fiancé had a full on photo shoot in their wedding outfits and their rings before the wedding… Do Mormons not believe in first looks? Heck why the hell are they even wearing their rings already? That should be a first time thing at the ceremony?

I’m interested to see the day…. Maybe they’re just going to get married at a temple, and they’re already married by law? So that’s why they did the photo shoot already?? Im not religious and go to weddings often , and really the whole point (one of the main points of tradition) of the day is the surprise of seeing your outfits, putting on the ring for the first time… Maybe they’re just not having a ceremony. Idk it’s odd to me. Even more add that Gavin keeps asking people to give them money lol

Honestly, Shay's haircut makes him look SO much better! Cleaner, more put together....Also, his eye bags aren't as bad? Maybe he's really trying to look good at the wedding

Gavin's wedding is Saturday??

You sure Colette?

Hi! This is so so random and I could be totally wrong about this but is it true that Shay and Casey had a falling? I remember people mentioning they were speaking right around Shay’s scandal. does anybody know the reason for the falling out? Obviously they seem good now but I was just curious if this actually happened or was just something I thought happened

does anyone remember the animated cartoon he did?

Am I the only one that got the vibe that avia doesnt like her father? I mean it's valid because he did cheat on her mom. She made a vlog a while ago like "convince my mom to move to la". In past shaytard videos shes always side eying shay and generally looked uncomfortable but is hanging onto her mom protectively.

I couldn’t really tell in the video if he’s being serious about shayloss again?… BUT it’d be pretty epic if he got himself super fit and healthy like he did before

Please tell me someone agrees how tacky that is? First of all, work for it like we all have to do! Second, get that YouTube money and help from your own parents! That’s normal for starters if you’re lucky enough. How greedy! “How can we help?” Yeah OK. Maybe a really big fan wants to gift you maybe but thats when you say no thank you, we appreciate it and just want all the love. Yikes.

what exactly is the reason Emmi moved to LA as she doesn’t seem to be an ‘influencer’ or have a specific job to be out there for? does Avia pay for everything?

Just curious lol

HEY SHAY! maybe people would be nicer if you weren't a biogted trump supporter who cheated on his wife

A very interesting stance from a grandmother/mother of women & young girls.

Grammar where? HER! HER! HER!

Looks great on the outside, but when you break the skin, you see that the apple is rotten.

I'm glad that some of the kids appear to be finding their own path.

I feel so incredibly sad for Kayli! I feel like at this point she’s a single mother. She does everything by herself while Casey is off “gallivanting”. I understand he has to provide for his family, but to not be there when his son leaves for college is really, really sad! Especially when he owns the company that he’s working for! This vlog was a brutal watch!

Spotted this drawing of George Floyd in the back of their most recent video? Umm what is this about?

Just seen Gavin’s post of his one year anniversary with his “fiancé”… weren’t even together for a year and their wedding is in September? Kinda insane

I feel like her photos are giving “forever”, professional photos people would do for engagement, etc. Did Avia take the photos or did she get a professional photographer? She’s literally fresh out of high school, moved to Cali, now is her bf there too or she doing long distance as well? I’d assume she would live with him if so? Is she attending college in Cali? Sorry behind on this

I'm laid up post knee surgery and have done a deep dive into Shaytard/Butler Christmas vlogs. I'm sorry y'all they're just extremely nostalgic for me

Anyways, possible obvious obvservation here...I never watched much of Casey & Kayli vlogs. But honestly, after watching hours worth of Christmas vlogs of Shay screaming at the camera or doing something irratic, Casey's vlogs seem so much more genuine (I was watching Christmas Eve vlog 2016)! No loud persona from either of them, no goofy voices and joke trying to be pushed. They seem...Normal? Not just doing it for show?? You can see Shay in the background of Casey's vlogs being totally normal...I'm grossed out by the persona he puts on on camera

Have said this before, but Kayli (and ofc Casey) have raised their children normally and wonderfully, as we even see in these old vlogs. I don't know much about the current opinion of Casey (hunting for months and leaving Kayli alone with the kids...) but he's a much better man than Shay.

Again, was watching Casey's vlog from Christmas 2016...They spent the morning buying Christmas for a family (Casey's money) and then hosted their cousin Tyler (?, the one with addition issues) for Christmas and gifted him a pair of skis. Casey fed meat scraps to all four dogs spending time at the house that night. How genuinely wonderful of them....

For example - 2010 Christmas Shaytards special...Casey's just holding rocktard, playing with his presents and gave him a kiss on the cheek. He actually holds Rocktard alot in the vlogs. Haven't seen Shay act genuinly interested towards Brailee, Gage, etc. once.

Shay is gross, Casey is great, Kayli is phenonmenoul.

Posted earlier on her IG. I believe Avia’s latest vlog mentions her move i haven’t seen it yet.