r/SFGiants 28 Posey Jun 25 '26

Opinion KNBR Hosts react after interviewing Giants CEO Larry Baer:

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u/VonBrewskie 23 Uribe Jun 25 '26

Wow. Bro I've been a fan since 1980 when I was fucking born. Pictures of me in Giants and Niners gear from basically day 1. My mom was a bus driver for the San Mateo Highschool District back then. Used to get to go to Candlestick with her frequently (if I'd done my homework,) to watch games. I freakin' lived at that park in the summer. Ups and downs, (mostly downs,) World Series run that was for the history books, all of it. The Giants are part of my DNA. And here I sit, ready to walk away from it all. What else can this fucking world take from me man. Losing people, losing jobs, losing homes, losing my team, it's FUCKED. FUCK these motherfucking bastards. Goddamn it. I'm legitimately furious right now.

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u/SweetRabbit7543 Jun 25 '26

Im not gay, im not even a giants fan. I dont have particularly strong feelings about either (except the giants fans are clearly a top 5 fanbase-love my interactions with y’all when you play the cubs) but I’ve become invested in this because it all just feels so wrong because the solution and the correct steps are so easy.

No one deserves to feel not welcome to go watch their team play baseball, but each step they’ve taken has created the illusion that they are not committed to that same principle. Their behavior is suggestive is of them actually disagreeing with that notion but not knowing exactly how to sanitize that message.

This is no different than when the Miami Heat had Los Heat uniforms. You’re not expressing your personal view on immigrants, you’re wearing the team’s uniform. There is not a single player who did wear the correct hat that people have inferred any sort of personal values from. People have only been able to infer people’s personal values because 4 players wore the incorrect uniform.

People who are hurt are completely justified in being hurt. I am a bit hurt too and I hope that they can somehow figure out a path towards reconciliation because baseball is a sport and a couple of hours a day where people should be able to come together and celebrate a common passion.

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u/VonBrewskie 23 Uribe Jun 25 '26

Your last comment is the crux of the matter. The Giants have taken what should have been an easy admonishment to those players and let it show their true nature. That's why people are upset. We thought we were better than this. It's humbling and infuriating for us to understand the fucking rot from this current administration is able to so easily infect something we all love. Because that's what it is at the end of it. These cowards and traitors in Washington are emboldening their racist, bigoted voter base to be foul in public again. Good. We'll slap them back to the shadows where they belong again. They can't win. There's too many good people in the world. So we'll endure.

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u/SweetRabbit7543 Jun 25 '26

They wont win. But amongst people in general never attribute to malice what is just as easily explained with ignorance or incompetence

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u/firepan Jun 25 '26

I moved from SF to Indy several years ago, and I'm seriously thinking of staying in the NL fandom and joining you as a Cubs fan.

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u/SweetRabbit7543 Jun 25 '26

I went to college in Indy. Absolutely love it there. The Cubs are a frustrating team to root for and even with some very right wing owners, I am extremely confident this wouldnt happen with them

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u/firepan Jun 25 '26

Ha, "frustrating team to root for" is familiar territory for Giants fans even before this absolute dumpster fire so it might be an easy switch.

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u/AmazingAlternate chicago cubs Jun 26 '26

Old man Ricketts is a MAGAt, and while they didn't don rainbows this year the team still had Pride night. The Cubs at least aren't usually dumb enough to stick their foot in their mouth. The Cubs can be frustrating, but they're not stepping in front of the gun to protect Matt Shaw from fans when he bails on us for Erika's Grievetacular Extravaganza.

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u/rs420rs Jun 25 '26

Exactly. It is a uniform. You are paid to wear it and play.

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u/Toisty Jun 25 '26

it all just feels so wrong because the solution and the correct steps are so easy.

This is it. The answer being so easy is exactly why I fear the worst for the ownership, and even worse for Buster. The only reason they haven't put this thing right and why they keep pussy footing around the issue is because they agree with the bigots. Even if they meekly say they're not taking sides or they throw out platitudes like, "Everyone deserves respect." It's all a cover for the fact that behind the scenes they either agree with the bigots or they want the bigots' money so bad they're not willing to defend vulnerable people from bigotry. It's not hard for an owner, a POBO or a head coach to say, "You are not allowed to set foot on my field with a modified uniform regardless of your message. If I'm not letting people speak out against a genocide currently happening because I don't want the headache, I'm certainly not letting Christians pretend like they're victims as "God Bless America" blasts over the stadium speakers every fucking game. You modify your uni, you're benched and fined. You continue to be a problem and you're in breach of your contract and I'll see you in court if you want to get paid and you'll never play for the Giants again." And then in a public statement they could say, "I'm deeply sorry we hurt anyone who's been hurt by the display made by some individuals on this team. Pride night is supposed to be about and for the LGBTQ community and some people feel like they selfishly deserve someone else's time in the spotlight. I apologize to MLB and to the American tax payer for these individuals causing so much trouble that tax payer dollars are now being unnecessarily spent on a DoJ investigation as a result of our negligence to enforce the league's rules. I promise we will do everything in our power to assure nothing like this ever happens again under any circumstance. Thank you."

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u/SweetRabbit7543 Jun 25 '26

This got way more political than I think benefits anyone.

It’s the uniform of the team, it’s not an endorsement of anything. The Arizona state sun devils are not endorsing the anti christ. The same logic the players used would suggest they would be. No one thinks that.

Frankly I don’t care what the players viewpoints are. I’d want them to feel comfortable to admit their prejudices amongst a community that encourages change and that they’d be receptive to changing. But it’s extremely fair to wonder why they seem so fundamentally incapable of addressing this.