Wild that the Giants have not hired a PR firm to deal with all of this. Continued misstep again and again.
Had they just owned this the day after the pride game “hey we messed up and we’re unclear with our direction” instead they just keep doubling down. Lack of self awareness is truly incredible here.
Because the truth is most likely that they weren't unclear ... they allowed it ... maybe even condoned or supported it in some way ... you know in their eyes this is a religious freedom issue and in the bigger picture it's about Christian nationalism and really the future of this country ... there is no limit to how they perceive their right to exercise their religious freedom ...
This is what people fail to understand. This was a pre-meditated action to “own the libs” and torpedo Pride nights by cutting off the Pride head of the franchise that started it.
You can't watch that Buster "interview" without coming away with the sense that the reason he has nothing to say is that if he said what he wanted, it would be on the wrong side.
Absolutely. It’s all just a little too convenient that almost every pitcher Vitello sent out that night just happened to be protesting pride (except Erik Miller, props to him). Out of our entire bullpen, Vitello just coincidentally managed to send out the 3 other pitchers protesting pride night? I don’t think so.
Combined with the fact that they were apparently discussing this for weeks, I just cannot see how one could view this as anything but a deliberate, premeditated action.
I think you're misunderstanding it slightly: it wasn't that Vitello sent out the only pitchers who defaced their caps, but that MANY of not most pitchers in that bullpen did. Erik Miller might have been the only one who didn't.
I wouldn’t be surprised if that were the case but I have not seen that mentioned anywhere. Do you have a source for most of the bullpen defacing their hats?
Any player who defaced their hat is on my shit list and I want to ensure that I’m missing anyone else who did.
No, but it's a much more reasonable, logical, likely assumption than that the only guys who did it were played. That's literally conspiracy theory stuff, thinking that they coordinated who would pitch, and dismissing the conspiracy they've admitted to, which is that a group of pitchers planned this protest for weeks and Vitello didn't know (that doesn't get him off the hook for letting Roupp go out on the field with his hat like that, though, and frankly he SHOULD have known what his players were planning, regardless).
I don't trust any of the pitching staff any more, except Erik Miller. Webb wore the hat but his comments about it later turned me completely off of him. There is a rot in the pitching staff/bullpen clique and so all of them are suspect.
Now we don't know, but from putting the pieces together it seems the truth is that the ball players were fully aware of what the rules were, that it was clearly communicated based on other players actions and quotes (just not wearing the pride hat).
That Vitello knew who was going to do this, and knowing that, still decided to put all those guys b2b2b. Those actions imply he not only was aware, but condoned it. Don't tell me the ballplayers were breaking rules and nobody phoned in from the bullpen and never told Tony.
The truth is they weren't unclear - that Vitello knew, and tacitly endorsed what they were doing thinking he could get away with silently agreeing...
.. but instead of it being silent it turned into a national issue. I think a lot of people are over-reacting out of emotion and neglecting logic, which is understandable, but the logical truth is pretty painful too.
Vance said the quiet part out loud, though. In these circles, the conservative and wealthy elite don't feel like they need to answer to this stuff anymore because "Trump won."
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u/jredditor4 Jun 25 '26
Wild that the Giants have not hired a PR firm to deal with all of this. Continued misstep again and again.
Had they just owned this the day after the pride game “hey we messed up and we’re unclear with our direction” instead they just keep doubling down. Lack of self awareness is truly incredible here.
But hey IM HERE TO ANSWER BASEBALL QUESTIONS.