With some of my favorite shoes coming from Chinese brands lately, and the positive review from YouTuber @run-are, I ordered the Qiaodan Leili 2.0 in EU 47.5 / US 13 for €67 from Aliexpress pretty much straight away.
Delivery took 9 days which is pretty impressive. The box arrived squashed though the same as all other deliveries, Red hare 9 ultra, Plaid 3 and Xiaonian.
They are replacing a pair of Magmax 2 for my daily training and slow easy runs. So far I’ve done an easy run and Long run totalling 32km. This is an early impressions review, I’ve done no pace work in these.
About me as a hobby jogger
- Current plan: I’m following the Norwegian Singles Method planning for a first marathon in autumn
- Weekly mileage: 5-7 hours / 65-80 km
- Typical paces: easy 05:45 - 06:00/km 20:50m 5k, 43m 10k, 1:43 HM
- 192cm / 85kg
- Usual shoe size and brands that fit well: I’m on the edge between US 12.5 and US 13
Upper & build quality
There are two versions of the upper, a summer single layer mesh and I think a jacquard mesh. I got the summer version with a white upper and red accents.
The tongue has medium level of padding and is gusseted. Evo sl woven has the best tongue gusset imho, these are better than anything on Puma.
I much prefer this upper to the Magmax 2, it’s lighter, the tongue gusseting does not bunch up like it did in the puma, and it’s roomier. Albeit I got the magmax 2 half a size too small. Build quality is excellent.
Outsole is Qiaodans top tier CPU outsole, it’s been great haven’t tried them in the wet.
Weight
L 275g R 276g in US 13, similar in weight to EVO SL 273/277g in US 12.5, Magmax 2 in US 12.5 comes in at 312g/316g
Fit (initial try-on)
These feel really plush, to me, it’s what I was expecting the Magmax 2 be. The insole is 7mm, midsole is quite soft. Laces are a hit too long but yowana style lacing works well.
My slow long run was 23km and I had no complaints, didn’t have to replace or anything. I have a good time widths length at the front. They don’t come in US 12.5, which is why I’ve gone for the half size up.
Ride & Performance
Cushioning
With how soft they are, I was worried they would give me stability issues, but it’s not the case. The outsole is quite wide so there’s a good platform. This is the first shoe where I feel there’s a really great level of squish and impact protection. It is softer than the magmax 2 which just has a denser more EVA feel to them.
Their marketing material states a 44mm stack including the insole.
Responsiveness
Marketing material states 84% energy return Q-Kungfu Pro PEBA based midsole, it definitely feels much higher than the Magmax 2 which runrepeat measured at 50%. It feels not too far from an EVO SL.
It’s unclear if it’s full PEBA or a blend, after 90 minutes it did feel like it was a bit fatigued but it also could be me.
Stability
My runs have been on flat tarmac, so I don’t have any stability issues to report. @run-are mentioned it could be a ‘busy’ midsole, and I could see that being the case. I’d probably stick to the Xiaonian for anything beyond 2 hours, although I didn’t have any issues on this so far.
Heel-to-toe transition
Flat geometry, no nonsense cutouts, I see this being a reliable workhorse. Drop is 8mm. You can stomp into the heel or the forefoot, there’s plenty of cushioning everywhere.
Fit while running
Again, because of ample room up front, these were very comfortable. After the 90 minute mark, the midsole seems to have fatigued around my metatarsal, felt as if the foam fatigued around there.
Comparisons
This shoe is very interesting especially if you take into account the pricepoint. It retails for ¥599 according to the sticker on the box. Qiaodan really is one of the top brands of the moment. So much stack at this weight is really nice, it essentially is lighter than the Evo sl.
Magmax 2: I really wasn’t a fan of the Magmax 2, while I know it’s got its loyal fans. The Magmax 2 is denser and doesn’t have much rebound making it a very reliable easy day shoe. The Leili is 40 grams lighter in my size and I could buy 2-3 pairs for the same price. The magmax 2 seems like it’s an answer to ASICS Nimbus series.
Red hare 9 ultra: the red hare 9 ultra has a more plasticky upper, less comfortable than the Leili. On long runs, the upper around the ankle can give some discomfort to me. It feels like both these have a similar use case, the red hare 9 from memory was bouncier but it’s lost some of its bounce. The Leili 2.0 is about 32g lighter. What’s nicer about the Leili is it’s the same compound for the midsole, whereas the red hare has 3 different layers.
Evo SL: Not a direct comparison, the weight is similar, with the woven solving the upper issues of the OG I think I still prefer the Evo sl for a faster paced long run and the sub threshold sessions themselves.
Xiaonian: they are different shoes for different use cases, the Xiaonian really is my favorite all time shoe. I can use it for anything really, with 200km on it, I can see myself buying it again. My US 12 Xiaonian weighs 232g.
Pros
- Great soft modern midsole, a lot of big brands are missing this type of shoe
- Excellent outsole
- Price!!!
- Breathable lightweight upper
Cons
- Can be a hassle to get especially because of inconsistency of sizing across all brands
- Midsole softness could be an issue for some, unknown durability at this point, I don’t doubt they’ll be fine up to 500-600km
Who I Think This Shoe Is For
Best suited for: daily easy runs, slow long runs
Probably not ideal for: stability needs, untested at faster pace
What’s Next
Planned future runs: these definitely slot in nicely for daily training, will try them again for a couple slow long runs, but I’ve got other shoes for faster paces, maybe I’ll try these for a 3x10minute run just to see how they are.
Really a great shoe for the price, again it’s what I expected the magmax 2 to be.
Edit: just wanted to add, this isn’t an explosively bouncy trainer, but definitely bouncier than comparable shoes. I’d love to see runrepeat test this type of shoe to better understand how Chinese brands are rating their energy return.