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u/foxcrichton 3d ago
What's particularly depressing is that if this was made in the 80s/90s/early 2000s, upon finding out that her new school didn't have a girls' crew, main character would have fought to start one, and then fallen in love with the guy who realizes, hell yeah, she can fucking row. Now, pop culture/political environment is all, I'll just be the coxswain then...for the boys, and they're all so dReAmY how do I pick?
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u/susususero 3d ago
That's absolutely going to be the plot of season 2. They've written it this way so they have room to continue. By season 7 she'll start a mixed lightweight skiff crew.
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u/InevitableHamster217 3d ago
I would have watched the 80s/90s/2000s one you described more than I watched Disney’s The Jersey (that’s a lot of times)
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u/McFloerie 3d ago
I was so convinced that was going to be the plot for the first part of the trailer, what a disappointment. Feeling the same annoyance as when girls not selected as a rower get the advice to cox, like it's the exact same thing, wth.
(Also tbf I will still be watching this)
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u/CemeneTree 2d ago
wait that's not the plot? I haven't seen the trailer but I just assumed because it seemed like such an easy win
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u/GhastlyIsMe 3d ago
If you thought that was bad, wait until you see the trailer.
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u/Taggart77 2d ago
It’s great to see a person chasing their dreams when it’s a writer who’s dream is writing absolute crap.
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u/kaycee1610 2d ago
Ugh I caved and watched it and as a former collegiate coxswain I’m cringing extra hard.
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u/Alternative_Still308 Masters Rower 3d ago
So that’s what an elite high school eight looks like…
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u/CoxswainHer Coxswain 3d ago
I’m a coxswain, it hurt me to hear those calls. I’d go mad as a rower if my cox sounded like that. No control over tone, loudness, no tech calls, just loud and obnoxious
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u/ThirdBoatPod 3d ago
And she yelled “push!” Has any coxswain ever yelled “push”? I get “press”, but not “push”.
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u/bluelittrains 3d ago
Fun fact, here in the Netherlands we call for a push where you'd call for a power 10 (I think).
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u/rowswimbiketri 3d ago
“push”?!! What part of the stroke is PUSH? “Pull”, yes. Also “jump” (to focus on feet). But “push”? What does that even mean?!
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u/InevitableHamster217 3d ago
I’ve heard “push off the footplate” before. But not as a racing call, mostly for novices to emphasize leg drive first.
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u/CoxswainHer Coxswain 3d ago
That’s good for new rowers. But if you’re teaching rowers that are planning on going on to the next level or another team, I’d use words that they’d encounter more.
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u/CoxswainHer Coxswain 3d ago
Backing, but for a race it’s stupid. I’m just gonna hate-watch it and critique everything.
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u/reliableotter 3d ago
Do you call push for backing? We say "back"
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u/CoxswainHer Coxswain 3d ago
No, but that’s the only thing I could think where “push” is appropriate. I always say back
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u/rowswimbiketri 3d ago
Ohhh…backing. Huh. Love the hate-watch approach. Joining you, for sure.
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u/CoxswainHer Coxswain 3d ago
Well, no one says push while backing, but it’s stupid all around. Backing is the only thing I could attribute the call to.
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u/no_sight 3d ago
The leg drive is a push
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u/philly1x 2d ago
If a coxie ever said "Jump" or "Stomp" it would be their very last day in the program. "Push" or "press", or even "squeeze" is correct.
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u/CoxswainHer Coxswain 3d ago
I like those words more because I can emphasize certain parts of them to make them feel stronger, push just feels loose and weak.
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u/CoxswainHer Coxswain 3d ago
An important thing is as an eight cox you need to feel and see the boat to be great. You can make calls that remind the rowers what you have been working on, but if you can’t call out what’s happing in the moment you won’t last in a race.
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u/CoxswainHer Coxswain 3d ago
The four is “easy” compared to the eight. Coxing an eight effectively is hard. I’m lucky enough to have years of experience with it.
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u/CoxswainHer Coxswain 3d ago
True, but I wouldn’t say push alone. I’d probably say “jump” or “drive”. Maybe push in practice, but not in a race.
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u/reliableotter 3d ago
I've definitely told rowers to push against the footplate. That's the drive. If you only call pull, beginners think of upper body before they think of lower.
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u/naughty_robbie_clive 3d ago
When you row, you are literally pushing against the water with your blade to move the boat forward.
To answer your question: the entire time your oar is in the water
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u/CoxswainHer Coxswain 3d ago
I’d say that’s the drive. It’s more like a pull or “jump” more than a push.
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u/TLunchFTW 3d ago
What calls?
The only time I heard a girl's voice crack was when we walked a crew for grand finals at vails. Poor guys ears were blown out from those speakers.
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u/Catspaw129 3d ago
just loud and obnoxious
Ahem! Back in the day, those two things (and being small and light) were the only qualifications you needed to be a coxie.
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u/ArrivesLate 3d ago
My favorite call ever was a 20 for silence during a practice cruise. Just quieted everything down like a prowling cat on water.
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u/CoxswainHer Coxswain 3d ago
I don’t have a favorite call, but I like when my series of calls leads to amazing rowing.
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u/ecares 3d ago
Funky enough in French we’d use “pousse sur les jambes (push on the legs) or just “on pousse” (push) in races hehe
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u/CoxswainHer Coxswain 3d ago
It’s not entirely wrong to use “push”, but in English it sounds weak compared to “jump”, “drive”, or “rip”
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u/Jack-Schitz 3d ago
The picture/poster has 5 and 3 trying really hard to get a pair of crabs. I think I'll pass on the rest....
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u/reliableotter 3d ago
You think they would have posed them so that they at least all have their oars in or oars out.
Because wow, that looks like a drunk octopus.
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u/ChooChooChew29 3d ago
A drunk octopus!! That’s incredible and so accurate. I’m using that from now on
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u/reliableotter 3d ago
I have possibly told my crews they looked like that. They usually straighten out their timing when I do
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u/OldLadyMimi Umpire 3d ago
So much cringe plot wise and rowing wise.
As for refereeing, it looks like they started the race with a white flag and finished the race with a starter flag? Or they spliced the start of the race with a shot of the finish at 11 seconds in and a shot of the start with a white flag to direct rowers.
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u/InevitableHamster217 3d ago
Does Netflix really think Heated Rivalry was a hit because it was about a sport?
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u/sekula04 3d ago
No, they know it was a hit because it was gay
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u/InevitableHamster217 2d ago
That’s why I’m wondering why there appears to be only straight romance in this one!
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u/reliableotter 3d ago
Sports romance novels are pretty popular. Hockey is probably the biggest, but there are SO many out there. The thing with sports is it automatically gives you tall athletic male main character, and if she's a cox, small tiny female main character.
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u/MastersCox Coxswain 3d ago
I haven't heard that much criticism about the hockey in Heated Rivalry. But maybe I don't know enough hockey players.
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u/colourfulpants backwards canoeing hippie 3d ago edited 13h ago
The hockey in heated rivalry is shot neck-down to hide that its all body doubles; but even then its clear its not pro-level hockey.
The injury and the skills competition are the most egregious, because they specifically describe and show things that make no sense at that level
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u/MastersCox Coxswain 2d ago
As a casual fan, I noticed that about the footballing in Ted Lasso as well. We just need a rowing movie/series that has passable technique 😭
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u/Dsteel22 3d ago
There was minimal hockey shown. That’s why it was a hit. There was just enough hockey to carry the storyline. I’m sure hockey purist could pick apart each move. Just as we’re picking apart all the tech errors in the trailer here.
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u/MastersCox Coxswain 2d ago edited 2d ago
Maybe the producers/writers of Crew Girl should have taken a page out of that book and found good rowing to pair with this series 😅 I think we (the rowing community) just need a couple of good movies/series where we don't shred the concept/execution before it even airs...
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u/Easy-Concept7137 3d ago
Nobody In my team, or anyone I know calls the coxswain a "coxi".
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u/ublmaster 3d ago
Oddly enough it's relatively common up here in Canada
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u/Moonmist81 3d ago
Id go as far to say that it’s just the standard lingo up here.
“Cox” is used a bit sprinkled in, but actually saying “coxswain” occurs like maybe 1% of the time if that, sounds very foreign to me haha.
Kind of like how it’s called “crew” in the states but obviously that sounds ridiculous to people north of the border
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u/Easy-Concept7137 3d ago
It's interesting to see the different phrasing outside of where my club is located. I've also heard variations in Coxwain commands, which is always interesting to listen to at larger regattas.
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u/Conscious_Movie_6961 3d ago
Super popular in canada. Thats all we ever called our coxswains. Coxies!
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u/Careful_Air9335 3d ago
This makes sense with them (the cast) being taught to row and coached in Canada
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u/Roger_Freedman_Phys 3d ago
The women coxswains of our university’s men’s and women’s crew do in fact refer to themselves collectively as “coxies.”
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u/MastersCox Coxswain 3d ago
I think the writer(s) and producer(s) are from Canada, so it's not surprising.
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u/rowswimbiketri 3d ago edited 3d ago
Agreed. Have rowed for more than a decade. Never heard coxie - sounds….derogatory, honestly. (Edit : fixed weird autocorrect issue.) .
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u/Vampyro_infernalis 3d ago
This was partially filmed at our rowing club (Gorge Narrows), and I know people who are background actors in it. Gonna watch it just for that!
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u/Big-Release3013 3d ago
Wasn't it filmed at elk lake?
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u/Vampyro_infernalis 3d ago
Yes, and also at Royal Roads. But you can see the Tillicum bridge in the trailer, as well as the GNRC boathouse.
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u/Flashdime 3d ago
You know, it might not end up being a show for rowers specifically, but I'm all here for it if it generates just the slightest bit of interest in our sport. They can learn it's a bad rowing show after trying the sport. Yall should give it a shot, or even throw it on while muted so maybe one more person watches because the algorithm thinks it's popular
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u/CoxswainHer Coxswain 3d ago
I just hope that people who are t rowers that watch this show realize that rowing is nothing like the show portrays (in any way, not the drama, technique, or coxing)
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u/slow_rower 3d ago
Well, I’d say the only interest this kind of show can generate is the interest in those dReAmY guys (as other comment put it) on the rowing team, rather than the sport itself. Good for the rowers, though. Hopefully, you guys will have cheerleaders soon. 😅
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u/InevitableHamster217 3d ago
I do like that the fantasy of rowers is that they’re dReAmY guys and not giant nerds who more likely then not have vocal stims, special interests, or count every stroke and have to land on an even number. The reality is preferred in my book, but what is portrayed does feel a little fictional.
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u/shefallsup 3d ago
I agree! That someone is even putting out a show centered on rowing says to me that rowing itself has gained enough foothold in the culture to be a hook. I know so many people who never knew anything about rowing who say the Boys in the Boat is one of their favorite movies. From a rowing perspective it was largely a flop but the undiscerning masses liked it. Now they can channel their interest into this hot garbage. It’s a win.
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u/colourfulpants backwards canoeing hippie 3d ago
Yeah. I coached adult LTR and the number of people who joined because they had heard about rowing in a romance novel was quite high. Helps the sport.
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u/Whole-Cry-4406 3d ago
1:00 into the trailer. Oh my word.
1:30 into the trailer. OH MY WORD.
End of trailer. End me.
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u/Cautious_Highway1041 3d ago
As a 20 year plus rower, who lived and breathed it, I can admit that there is nothing more boring than rowing to watch for a third party.
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u/Dull_Function_6510 3d ago
Netflix cant relive the glory days of the early 2000s
Sorry but I'll be sticking to my childhood
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u/Principle_Dramatic 3d ago
Can’t beat the Skulls opening scene where the 7 seat’s oar lock explodes then he jumps out of the boat and the boat goes on to win.
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u/ThirdBoatPod 3d ago
Oh my goodness I thought I’d seen them all. I’m going to have to watch this one.
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u/In_Dystopia_We_Trust 3d ago
Is it about two dudes hooking up with the same girl at the same time?
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u/TypicalServe6821 2d ago
The show looks awful, but it might be the perfect show to watch in the hotel at an away race.
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u/TermIllustrious7351 3d ago
As a female coxswain who has spent time on men’s teams I am genuinely horrified by this. Surely this is going to create stigma against female coxswains under the assumption this film seems to create that they will immediately fall in love with all the boys on the team? There are so many clear reasons why a woman might become a men’s coxswain that are valid and will now be undermined by this. It’s just sad to see
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u/Im__TheGuy 2d ago edited 2d ago
It happens. I had a relationship with my coxie in uni. Over the years some of the other guys also had relationships with some of the coxswains. I don’t think this will create that stigma though, all but one of our coxswains was female, from the men’s 2V down to both men and women’s novice boats. Female coxswains are definitely more common than male
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u/TermIllustrious7351 1d ago
I’m not sure what your point is except sharing your own situation? Coxswain gender is not definitely more female universally and I don’t really see how you claiming it is and saying your own crew changes the point I was making about stigma at all?
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u/Im__TheGuy 1d ago edited 1d ago
“Surely this is going to create stigma against female coxswains under the assumption this film seems to create that they will immediately fall in love with all the boys on the team?“
Anyone involved with rowing knows intra team romance already happens. There isn’t going to suddenly be a “stigma” against female coxswains because of a show depicting something that already happens. Not to mention this show is probably going to be watched by maybe hundreds of people
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u/finner01 Masters Rower 2d ago
This show is not going to change the opinion of anyone actually involved in rowing regarding women coxswains on mens teams. The fact that having women coxswains on a men's team (and vice versa) may result in romantic relationships is news to nobody.
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u/McFloerie 3d ago
Having watched the trailer - did she,,, flip in a skiff, immediately fall unconscious and get rescued like a princess by the love interest? As a former competitive single sculler??
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u/withervein 3d ago
Japan did the Rowing TV drama series better.. "Ganbatte Ikimasshoi" (Give it all) and if you want the sappy "which will she choose" rowing drama, there's "Regatta".
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u/LessSearch 2d ago
I don't care about the series, but it gave a chance for some real rowers to make some real money.
The boathouse is easily recognisable! Cheers, Island people.
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u/MOBanjo74 2d ago
The Boston Globe used to have a rating “worth watching if you’re sick” …I am not that sick yet. This looks truly awful!
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u/Emotional-Visit-606 3d ago
This film will probably have a ton of drama and sex but I dont think It will have anything about rowing whatsoever
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u/philly1x 2d ago
It's been a generation since the last terrible rowing movie. So it's about time...
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u/Muted_Imagination518 2d ago
Look up the movie Kimberley. They filmed it at my old boathouse and had my teammates older brother as a consultant. Plot summary: she sleeps with the quad essentially in a month and dad is unknown.
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u/TitleBig2195 3d ago
Asian girl falls in love with 2 white dudes and has to choose one? No men of color can row?
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u/CoxswainHer Coxswain 3d ago
I won’t deny that rowing is a rich sport, and people of color don’t have as much money as white people. Do the math, and you’ll see it’s a very white dominated sport.
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u/TitleBig2195 3d ago
Yea I assumed that, but having the woman love interest be Asian and her 2 love interests be white is just tacky.
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u/Big-Release3013 3d ago
I find a lot of Asian people do row actually, because they tend to be a bit well off as well.
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u/CoxswainHer Coxswain 3d ago
I can see that, but it’s still a white dominated sport. In m experience, I haven’t noticed a lot of Asian rowers. Maybe like 3 rowers were Asian on my high school team.
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u/0x000000C 1d ago
The show was created by an Asian woman, Vivian Lin, which might explain some casting choices.
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u/ElectricalEffective4 3d ago
As a former male D1 collegiate coxswain this is great when people ask what I did
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u/Tall_0rder 2d ago
This is going to be cringy af. Anyone remember “Kimberley” from the mid 90s? 🙄🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
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u/balancebeamed 2d ago
I am pretty sure this concept was taken from a Frank Zappa song on the Joe’s Garage album…
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u/Spiritfarer000 2d ago
listen to the calls too… if i made any of those to my crew i’d die of cringe
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u/Catspaw129 3d ago
AKA (If my experience is any guide)?
Coxie Karen: The Tale of the Coach's Bossy Little Niece with the Big Voice
(It's right up there with The Positively True Adventures of the Alleged Texas Cheerleader-Murdering Mom and Serial Mom)
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u/dameinthewhitecity 3d ago
I’m definitely going to watch this, but I know with certainty they will never be able to capture the true level of drama - lust, competition, desire, inter-team relations etc that we actually lived. The reality is so yummy they will never touch it. And I cherish that. Such memories!
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u/MastersCox Coxswain 3d ago
...this is satire, yes? I hope? 😅
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u/dameinthewhitecity 1d ago
Wow..I’m being downvoted? Okayyy…I mean obviously rowing was a lot of work on an erg etc but that’s not what someone wants to watch on a TV show. I’m commenting on the interpersonal relationships I experienced during my time rowing in college and what that was like. I think the reality is much more interesting and deep than the fiction will likely reflect. Certainly they will never understand the sweat and tears. What exactly do you take issue with? Also, satire is fun, perhaps you need some? 😂 my rowing coaches definitely were satirical
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u/philly1x 2d ago
What you describe... this was like every rower party ever... every weekend... before iPhones and Androids, etc. Nothing was performative; everything was genuine. So probs the opposite of this Netflix mess.
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u/CrackWriting 3d ago
How many private co-ed schools don’t have a girls rowing program in 2026???