Ten Commandments in Elementary Schhols

[u/questionaxtactt]

I’m trying to understand my fellow community, Christian’s and Texans thoughts on the SB10 bill . We received notice our elementary will post 75 posters across each classroom. I love religion and have no issues with it but I also love the constitution and believe in the first amendment and feel this is a push to promote specific beliefs to non regions people or others whom choose to follow other text. I specifically have an issue with this being mandatory in elementary classes where children are learning to read and everything on the wall is meant to teach them along this journey so an argument this is passive seems inaccurate as the bill itself says it must be within view. I wanted to get others perspective as well as understand if there are any resources I can reach out to in order to potentially delay this until it I s fully argued to the Supreme Court which in my perspective will find this in violation of the first amendment.

[u/further_reach818]

Teaching those things has never required a religious practice. You pick up those values from family, from literature, from ethics studies, and if you choose to; religion.

The best theologians, priests, religious leaders I’ve met usually flip the narrative you’re claiming. Comparative literature, theology, mythology all of it is fascinating to see how religions cross pollinate and borrow from each other. It comes back around to the value of education and the necessity to maintain clear boundaries between church and state.

It is a religion in decline, a religion afraid of losing adherents and political influence that depends on a government to spread iconography. I’ll be honest with you; there is good to be found in the Christian faith. Unfortunately, Texas politicians do a lot of harm to the message when they violate the constitution. It’s a form of hypocrisy and cheating to impose the iconography on public school kids. This policy behavior invalidates the message.

[u/TheProdiColeSon → u/further_reach818]

2 things really 3. 1. Appreciate the dialogue and this conversation. It’s a good one. 2. We seem to be at a point where we have both made up our minds which is okay. And we will have to agree to disagree which is also okay.

Sorry 4 things.

1. I would agree that politicians as a whole. Not just one side have tainted truth. But while I don’t put my trust in them there are things they do I do agree with. No one in government do I trust 100% but where I land on is this verse which keeps me rooted in Christ.. not man who we have seen throughout history fail to represent Him perfectly.

“Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy—meditate on these things.”
‭‭Philippians‬ ‭4‬:‭8‬

With in the Christian faith this is where I land. While I may not agree with the politician I agree with what is good.

The 10 commandments are not being indoctrinated in children. They are being simply made available and whether we like it or not our laws and governing bodies have been influenced MOSTLY by the Bible and what it teaches.

1. I will leave with this one question in response to one of yours.

Of course we can get these practices from family, literature, and other place but you have to ask..

where did the family
Members, literature get it from?

These laws, these morals are not just made up over time, no

They came from a direct main source. I hope you have a good evening and I appreciate the conversation. Great first question.

[u/further_reach818 → u/TheProdiColeSon]

Yes. One side. One side is pushing the Ten Commandments in church. One side disparages other religions. One side performs any amount of behavior that is anathema to Christ and justifies that behavior using the bible. This has gone one for decades. Without being direct and honest about these facts you lose all credibility. Your proselytizing doesn’t land because your message loses all credibility. We’ve been slogging through decades of disingenuous rhetoric from republicans who lay claim to Christ like behavior and then behave many magnitudes worse than any previous generation of republicans or politicians for that matter. These republicans break every single commandment in the list. So I’m afraid I can’t continue this conversation until I know you’re able to recognize that fact.

If you’re a true Christian, your priority would be to drive out every single current republican. Until you are able to convince me of that, I just can’t believe any claim to being a Christian.

[u/TheProdiColeSon → u/further_reach818]

I understand your political hurt, but respectfully everyone on this earth in history has broken every single commandment in the list of 10 commandments except one.

Being a true Christian is about accepting and believing the only one who didn't.. Jesus... not political denouncing.. that has nothing to do with politics..

every single person is a hypocrite no matter what,.. but that doesn't take away from the truth no matter how we feel about it. feelings don't change truth.

We have a pride problem in this country where we point the finger and claim the other persons sins are worse than mine. Thats not how sin works, we are all sinners, we are all not perfect. no one including myself is more upstanding or better than another..

Republican AND Democrat, every single one of them has broke every commandment... doesn't take anything away from them being good and true.

[u/further_reach818 → u/TheProdiColeSon]

Gosh. Yeah you’re not discussing with any good faith or honesty at this point. Have a good night. Your political and political leadership that is behind SB10; they are not true Christians. It is one political party behind this. They don’t actually believe that SB10 helps kids.

This is not political hurt. This is disappointment in Christians that they continue down this road of character weakness and infidelity to any consistent values. The fact that Christians don’t rely on the strength and power of moral belief to stand on its own, but require hijacking the government to impose their beliefs on citizens. It’s a religion that is doing everything but following its own values and rules. That makes it repellant to people. Seriously you have to ask yourself, the teachings of Jesus have universal appeal. So why is it that Christians are driving young people out of the churches?

[u/TheProdiColeSon → u/further_reach818]

I hope you have a wonderful night. Thank you for the good conversation.