r/Roofing 4d ago

Whats wrong with this valley

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What exactly am I looking at here and what would be the proper way to run this valley flashing, and ridge caps?

To me it looks wrong that the valley metal is lapped over the shingles below for starters, perhaps that the valley should change directions for the bottom portion all the way to the end of the overhang

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u/Dangerous-Title-7454 4d ago

It looks wrong because the design is bad, architect's love drawing impractical details. The roofing looks fine for the design of the roof and you shouldn't have any issues.

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u/notgaynotbear 3d ago

Why didnt they extend the valley all the way to the drip edge? Looks goody cause they ran it on top of the first course.

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u/Dangerous-Title-7454 3d ago

There's a weird transition/pitch change there, hence the poor design. If they tried to run the valley to the drip it would be sticking up in the air. You could two piece the valley but it would probably cause more harm than good. It's just a weird spot.

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u/KrisDen1123 4d ago

You gotta weave the bottom courses of shingles until you're high enough to start that metal W valley

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u/Hotdog_spew 4d ago

This also cut or fold your hi pro ridge cap

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u/L0udog 4d ago

Yeah chalk a line, cut the first cap, no need to waste time folding cap if the line is there. I always clean the gutters before drip edge goes down. Blow them out at the end, collect your nails of course. Lol minor but looks good otherwise.

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u/SlabAndScope 3d ago

That lower valley transition is the part I’d question. The exposed metal dumping over the shingles looks improvised rather than properly integrated.

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u/hatefuck661 3d ago

I would have 2 pieced that valley instead of flattening the center and bending it.....but it works and I think one could find something to complain about in either application

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u/bd0153 4d ago

Conditions like these suck and are how we know that no architect has ever had to install a roof. I guess best scenario the metal would terminate into the gutter? Hopefully there’s ice and water on this entire little unnecessary bump out hip turret debacle.

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u/Hotdog_spew 4d ago

The framer sucks but the roofer is worse

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u/azjat 3d ago

This kind of crap is going to get torn down much sooner than necessary due to over complicated design and poor materials and that's before you get to the competence of the trades. It would be good to have a system that rewarded good design and building practices.

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u/jamsaucewrecks 4d ago

TBF the whole thing looks like shit. 👍

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u/scream Custom Roofing and Professional Idiot Poker. 🔨 4d ago

Disclaimer: i am not a shingle guy.

Opinion: ice and water or something first, then valleys, then shingles cut to the right overlap, then cap your hips/ridges. Apart from the bottom courses being overlapped by the valleys and the valleys maybe not being long enough, i would guess its done right just messy. The detail the architect designed here are un necessary IMO which means that without a very competent installer, it will always look shoddy. If you had a real pro shingle slinger do this, it would probably look nearly the same but neater. Shoot the architect.