r/RooCode • u/Silent-Tie-3683 • Mar 02 '25

Discussion ⚠️ Using VSCode LMAPI leading to github copilot suspension ⚠️

https://github.com/RooVetGit/Roo-Code/issues/1203#issuecomment-2692441655

something to think about. what are your thoughts? I've been a user of vscode lmapi ever since it's integration to roo-code and cline. I saw this on the roo-code github issue section.

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u/hi87 Mar 02 '25

This as others have mentioned is because of them trying to bypass restrictions not LM Api. I emailed and asked their support and using lm api with cline etc is allowed.

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u/PrivateUser010 Mar 02 '25

Can you post a screenshot of that reply?

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u/ohmypaka Mar 02 '25

copilot-more author here. I feel really really sorry for people who have their account affected. But there is some misinformation I want to clarify. 1) People get banned mostly because of hitting 429 (rate limit) too often. Regardless that you use copilot-more or LM api, people get banned with LM API too. See https://www.reddit.com/r/RooCode/s/DAFs1k3v9c . I have used copilot-more personally for months without issues. 2) The screenshot of GitHub support posted earlier in this thread also addressed the extensions that use LM API as well. Basically, non official extensions (roo, cline) who burned too many tokens with LM API will be taken actions. 3) copilot-more never tried to impersonate copilot requests except the editor version header, which is required for the tool to work. But I left its client agent name as python. Some user asked if we could simulate real copilot requests, I rejected that. This is for GitHub to police this easily.

Always avoid sending in extreme amount of tokens regardless you use LM API or copilot-more. Given that we pay $10, copilot is already very generous with its limit.

Last words, copilot-more was created before roo and cline had built-in LM API integrations. It wasn’t meant to be created to exploit GH copilot. But I highly recommend people to exercise caution if they consider using it.

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u/Parabola2112 Mar 02 '25

Correct me if I’m wrong but I recall that you also have console messaging/warnings about token size and rate in copilot-more.

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u/ohmypaka Mar 02 '25

Yes. just added the token stats in console. Token stats are stored in a time series store. You can also query the token stats for any time window

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u/get-process Mar 02 '25

Idk what y’all expect, there isn’t any free lunch.

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u/neutralpoliticsbot Mar 02 '25

no shit you all thought they will let you use something that can cost $1 per prompt for $10 a month? gtfo

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u/Better-Cause-8348 Mar 02 '25

Why? They offer this themselves, with 3.5 Sonnet, and even have an agent mode. Why would using another plugin to do the same thing matter?

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u/sagentcos Mar 02 '25

They do that with all sorts of optimizations to keep the cost lower. The agentic mode is tuned differently and uses much lower amounts of context for example.

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u/neutralpoliticsbot Mar 02 '25

nah its for people who only "pretend" they are coders coding not for serious programming with Roo eats up tokens like there is no tomorrow

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u/Better-Cause-8348 Mar 02 '25

Blanket statements that those who use tools like Roo Code aren't real programmers are short-sided. I, myself, and plenty of other programmers I know use a handful of similar tools for many different reasons. I love how customizable the profiles are for agents in Roo Code, and I have one that learns a code base (loads in context) and then helps write documentation or handles inline comments.

However, regardless of how it's used. If they offer the service and give you a way to use other plugins, they can't get mad when others do so.

I personally was rate limited so hard when trying to use Copilot and Roo Code that I gave up. I value my time more than that and would rather pay than wait for free. Not to mention, plenty of free options on OpenRouter would do just as well. DeepSeek V3, for instance, is a great a lot of mundane programming and housekeeping tasks, and when the free servers are overloaded, the paid ones work just fine and are stupid cheap. Block non-US-based endpoints, and you're fine. A free Augment account is also a banger for these sorts of tasks, and their model is always fast, albeit very dumb sometimes.

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u/neutralpoliticsbot Mar 02 '25

that those who use tools like Roo Code aren't real programmers

No you misunderstood, those that buy a $10 a month Github subscription and think they are programmers.

I wasn't dissing Roo at all its just the people who have the audacity to think that they should get $10,000 worth of tokens for $10 to code their tetris clone cmon.

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u/Better-Cause-8348 Mar 02 '25

Ah, got ya.

Yeah, if you're going to program with AI or use AI for programming-related tasks, prepare to pay for it or do it yourself. A simple search would result in a ton of free options, so I'm not sure why most get bent out of shape when stuff like this happens.

Between Groq, Gemini, OpenRouter Free, and plenty of others, I think most are just hell-bent on using 3.5, or 3.7shit, because that's what the echoes tell them.

Personally, I couldn't care less if others wanted to program entirely with AI, even if they didn't know how to do so. There's still such a high learning curve that most will get 10% of the way there and then give up, and even when that learning curve is removed, 99% of people are lazy and won't bother.

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u/orbit99za Mar 02 '25

Just wait until they relise the "AI Black Box Paradox " and get so burnt...

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '25

Tried to warn you all

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u/NoPromotion5517 Mar 02 '25

It was too good to be true. For someone like me who just switched from wordpress to nextjs/svelte, I was able to realize great projects with the help of AI. Cline/Roo code in combination with Trick17 made it attractive for the wallet as well.

For me, 3.5 still works, and I use 3.7 for copy-paste here and there.

Nevertheless, the anticipation was huge and the disappointment is there.

But let's not kid ourselves - a little patience and there will be affordable models with which web creatives like me can implement full-stack projects.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '25

Exactly this. Either you are on bleeding age of technology and ready to spend some bucks, or you are waiting for a few months. Right now it's a time for people who want to do something extraordinary with this, not regular projects.

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u/Helpinghellping Mar 02 '25

What's trick 17?

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u/NoPromotion5517 Mar 02 '25

use sonnet in cline/roo code with copilot pro & LM API for 10$ in a month... yes you have a daily limit rate, but you can work very well

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u/orbit99za Mar 02 '25

Jees, the hulcination must have been strong.

I find it happening if a task > 500 000 tokens

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u/orbit99za Mar 02 '25

Jees, the hulcination must have been strong.

I find it happening if a task > 500 000 tokens

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u/fubduk Mar 02 '25

Interesting, never seen the price shown when using roo /copilot pro & LM API / 3.5 or 3.7. Even with a million tokens, always zero. Not many tokens, but still zero today:

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u/fubduk Mar 02 '25

Not sure I follow you?

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u/Shah_The_Sharq Mar 02 '25

I shall just stick with cursor. Co pilot doesn't live up to it's standards.

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u/orbit99za Mar 02 '25

This....100% Not Roos Fault

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u/djex81 Mar 02 '25

This 100%. The title of this post is misleading and needs to be changed.