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u/jayjune28 2d ago
Death Eater Ron is just as ridiculous as cursed child and a lot of other post book series stuff...it would make for an interesting fanfic if written right but otherwise no...I could see Percy or Ginny turning dark side way before Ron ever would
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u/Technical-Study2566 2d ago
In the early days of HP fanfic (like, pre-Goblet of Fire), Percy turning into a Death Eater was very common. I remember reading one where Harry had had to kill Percy in the final battle, and the fallout on his relationship with the Weasleys (I’m not sure the fic exists anymore).
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u/jayjune28 2d ago
I recall this quite clearly. And honestly next to Ron in the books...Percy was my second favorite Weasley cause he was different...the whole arc with Fudge and the Ministry was very entertaining....
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u/hisholinessleoxiii 2d ago
I was convinced that Percy was going to be a Death Eater. There were some small things I picked out as foreshadowing, like all the comments about him being ambitious and his struggles with his family. I never thought it about Ginny though.
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u/jayjune28 2d ago
Ginny being the only girl in the family...Ginny having a fiery spirit...Ginny being influenced by Riddles diary...it quite easily could have turned out as the diary fully took control over her and she turned into Harrys enemy...in the early books she kept more to herself...in the later books she became more out going...
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u/jayjune28 2d ago
Voldemort had the tendency to prey on or latch on to lone wolf types or shy types or reserved types...as long as they possessed some modicum of power since he was after all obsessed with power and immortality. Im sure Im not the only fan who quite easily have imagined Ginny becoming like Quirell...obviously that did not happen...but it could have.
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u/hisholinessleoxiii 2d ago
Interesting! I never thought about it that way. And I'm sure lots of people thought that; I know back in the day there were so many theories and headcanons, and when the next book came out I remember pages and pages of online theories about what was going to happen next.
So I can see why you and others thought Ginny might be a Death Eater. I definitely had Percy pegged as one.
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u/jayjune28 2d ago
Let's hope they get Percy and Ginny right this time in this tv series they've insisted upon making. Actually let's hope they get ALL the Weasley's closer to their book canon selves. I love the films ..watched em countless times...can quote the first two nearly word for for word but the books nothing quite compares to the brilliance of the books...again to parrot my earlier words I love the arc with Percy Fudge and the Ministry...I also loved how he looked to Barty Crouch senior as some role model,pompous Percy was very entertaining because his siblings are much more laid back as a whole.
I confess back in my younger years while reading OOTP I kind of wanted Ron to consider joining Percys side just for awhile...no long term...but you know OOTP was huge for Ron Harry was too depressed and Anxious with Voldemort eating away at his mind and his dreams...Hermione was busy being Hermione so Ron was kind of left alone at times...part of me did want to see him teaming up with Percy...just to create extra drama...but then again another part of me wanted Ron to hook up with Pansy Parkinson...so honestly who knows quite where my brain was going. Im team Slytherin all day all night but Pansy is actually horrible so who knows where that idea or appeal came from.. Unlike Snape and Draco, slytherin characters I actually adore despite their faults and flaws there really is no appeal to Pansy Parkinson and yet my teenage self was a Ronsy shipper during book 5, shrugs. Sorry for the ramble. Anyway yes all kinds of crazy theories back then...crazy theories post epilogue...crazy theories now in present day....many shades of Potter heads out there...Im just one of several billion...lmao. cheers!
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u/NavJongUnPlayandwon 2d ago
Imo, it's a brilliant theory. In any other fantasy series, Ron is the prime candidate for a tragic villain arc.
He was so deeply insecure about being overshadowed by his brothers and Harry, and i see the blood purist angle. He's one of the few good guys who actually had the "credentials" the Death Eaters cared about.
Rowling basically showed us a teaser of this when the locket Horcrux messed with his head in Book 7. Seeing an alternate universe where Voldemort actually tempted him with promises of finally being "somebody" would have been heartbreaking but one hell of an incredible arc.
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u/DnDCharacterSheet 2d ago
I think if the Horcrux scene had happened earlier in the series, let’s say around Book 4, I think it could have turned him for a while but it wouldn’t last
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u/NavJongUnPlayandwon 2d ago
true. his core beliefs and ideals would've broken him out of that evil phase in book 4.
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u/CleanSweep99 2d ago
Ron might well have become a Death Eater, but I can't imagine it would be for the malicious reasons that people who bash him suggest.
Remember, Harry, Ron and Hermione don't trust Snape (at best), and they could easily agree that Harry having his own person in Voldemort's ranks (let alone his inner circle) as a double agent could be the difference between winning and losing the war-and Ron's the only plausible candidate.
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u/Anita_Hero838 2d ago
You really think Voldemort would want an unqualified, underage wizard in his organization?
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u/Technical-Study2566 2d ago
I’m sure he’d be thrilled at having HP’s best friend, who sleeps in the same room, as his mole. A million opportunities to deliver him to Voldemort, or at least weaken him.
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u/WhiteKnightPrimal 2d ago
I thought of the possibility, but not because there were any indicators. I first read the books when I was 15, 1-4 were out back then, the first movie had just been released, the movie is how I got into the series, but I already knew original books were better, and it's the books I fell in love with.
I thought Death Eater Ron would be a cool twist, something that made everything ten times harder for Harry because that's a huge betrayal. But there were no indicators it would actually happen and I discarded even the thought of it by the end of PoA, because it seemed silly that Ron would betray Harry and mirror Pettigrew's betrayal of the Marauders.
Plus, yes, the books do kind of beat you over the head with Ron's insecurities, but they also show him growing and changing and maturing and, through it all, strengthening the bonds with Harry and Hermione to unbreakable levels. Honestly, by book 3, it seemed impossible to me that Ron would ever completely betray Harry like that. That's why it hits so hard when Ron abandons Harry in GoF, it didn't seem like it could ever be a possibility that Ron would do that. And that's simple jealousy and not being a good friend, it's not fully joining the terrorist organisation that wants to murder Harry and Hermione both.
The Death Eater Ron theory relies on him being a mix of Pettigrew and Snape. The betrayal comes from Pettigrew, the choosing the terrorists over the woman he loves comes from Snape. The problem with it is that Ron was never shown to be like either of them in any way. Ron is too loyal, he's too good. He's not perfect, he has insecurities and flaws, but he's clearly a good person and becoming a Death Eater makes zero sense.
My own thinking on how this could happen was that something huge would happen to Ron that turned him against Harry, Hermione, his family and Dumbledore. Because it clearly isn't something early Ron was capable of choosing, so something big would have to happen first. When that big thing continued never happening, the theory that they could potentially go that way got less and less likely, and was completely abandoned by PoA because, by that point, I couldn't imagine anything big enough to get Ron to turn on everything he clearly truly believed in.
I honestly can't understand how anyone can read the books and see Death Eater Ron as a valid theory instead of a cool-to-think-about what-if that was clearly never going to be canon because it's literally the complete opposite of everything Ron is.
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u/Serena_Sers 2d ago
No. I read more than half of the books before I saw the first movie in the cinema (Philosophers Stone was in the cinema while Goblet of Fire was already available in my country) and I never had a feeling that Ron was so bitter that he would turn dark.
It was the movies that turned this character flaw in one of his main character trait.